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  • Tony Polson

    C or C++ as a second language?

    Hi. Should I jump right into C++, or is it better to learn C first?
    I'm not a total beginner; I know Javascript, but I obviously would like
    to learn a more powerful language.

    Thanks,

    TP

  • infobahn

    #2
    [Troll Alert] Re: C or C++ as a second language?

    Tony Polson wrote:[color=blue]
    >
    > Hi. Should I jump right into C++, or is it better to learn C first?
    > I'm not a total beginner; I know Javascript, but I obviously would like
    > to learn a more powerful language.[/color]

    Note to newbies (and the unobservant!):

    Please note that the above is just flame bait. The followups in the
    original message demonstrate this. No point replying to his nonsense.

    Comment

    • Victor Bazarov

      #3
      Re: C or C++ as a second language?

      "Tony Polson" <tony.polson@uk u.co.uk> wrote...[color=blue]
      > Hi. Should I jump right into C++, or is it better to learn C first?[/color]

      Jump right into C++. Only learn C if you want to learn C.
      [color=blue]
      > I'm not a total beginner; I know Javascript, but I obviously would like
      > to learn a more powerful language.[/color]

      Obviously. Why you set your follow-ups to photography newsgroups is
      still a mystery though. Trolling?

      V


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      • Noah Roberts

        #4
        Re: [Troll Alert] Re: C or C++ as a second language?

        infobahn wrote:
        [color=blue]
        > Please note that the above is just flame bait. The followups in the
        > original message demonstrate this. No point replying to his nonsense.[/color]

        What origininal message?

        Comment

        • infobahn

          #5
          Re: [Troll Alert] Re: C or C++ as a second language?

          Noah Roberts wrote:[color=blue]
          >
          > infobahn wrote:
          >[color=green]
          > > Please note that the above is just flame bait. The followups in the
          > > original message demonstrate this. No point replying to his nonsense.[/color]
          >
          > What origininal message?[/color]

          Oh, okay, you obviously have better filters than me. Sorry for the
          noise.

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          • Victor Bazarov

            #6
            Re: [Troll Alert] Re: C or C++ as a second language?

            "infobahn" <infobahn@btint ernet.com> wrote...[color=blue]
            > Noah Roberts wrote:[color=green]
            >>
            >> infobahn wrote:
            >>[color=darkred]
            >> > Please note that the above is just flame bait. The followups in the
            >> > original message demonstrate this. No point replying to his nonsense.[/color]
            >>
            >> What origininal message?[/color]
            >
            > Oh, okay, you obviously have better filters than me. Sorry for the
            > noise.[/color]

            It has nothing to do with filters. You changed the Subject header of
            the message, and some newsreaders, like Outlook Express, do not put it
            in the same thread. They make it seem that you started another thread.
            Just FYI...


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            • Noah Roberts

              #7
              Re: [Troll Alert] Re: C or C++ as a second language?

              Victor Bazarov wrote:
              [color=blue]
              > It has nothing to do with filters. You changed the Subject header of
              > the message, and some newsreaders, like Outlook Express, do not put it
              > in the same thread. They make it seem that you started another thread.
              > Just FYI...[/color]

              Hmm...nope. Original post not here. Maybe it hasn't arrived yet. Or
              maybe Tony is a well known troll and has gotten himself deleted from
              newsservers.

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              • CBFalconer

                #8
                Re: [Troll Alert] Re: C or C++ as a second language?

                Victor Bazarov wrote:[color=blue]
                > "infobahn" <infobahn@btint ernet.com> wrote...[color=green]
                >> Noah Roberts wrote:[color=darkred]
                >>> infobahn wrote:
                >>>
                >>>> Please note that the above is just flame bait. The followups in the
                >>>> original message demonstrate this. No point replying to his nonsense.
                >>>
                >>> What origininal message?[/color]
                >>
                >> Oh, okay, you obviously have better filters than me. Sorry for the
                >> noise.[/color]
                >
                > It has nothing to do with filters. You changed the Subject header of
                > the message, and some newsreaders, like Outlook Express, do not put it
                > in the same thread. They make it seem that you started another thread.
                > Just FYI...[/color]

                I didn't realize OE was that bad. So it is too stupid to follow
                the references chain?

                --
                "If you want to post a followup via groups.google.c om, don't use
                the broken "Reply" link at the bottom of the article. Click on
                "show options" at the top of the article, then click on the
                "Reply" at the bottom of the article headers." - Keith Thompson

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                • Victor Bazarov

                  #9
                  Re: [Troll Alert] Re: C or C++ as a second language?

                  "CBFalconer " <cbfalconer@yah oo.com> wrote...[color=blue]
                  > [...]
                  > I didn't realize OE was that bad. So it is too stupid to follow
                  > the references chain?[/color]

                  I don't think "stupid" is applicable to programs. Software cannot
                  be smart or stupid, it only does what it's designed and programmed
                  to do, and always _precisely_ that.


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                  • Jens Marder

                    #10
                    Re: [Troll Alert] Re: C or C++ as a second language?

                    "CBFalconer " <cbfalconer@yah oo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
                    news:420E6A9F.A E28C0C2@yahoo.c om...[color=blue]
                    > Victor Bazarov wrote:[color=green]
                    >> "infobahn" <infobahn@btint ernet.com> wrote...[color=darkred]
                    >>> Noah Roberts wrote:
                    >>>> infobahn wrote:
                    >>>>
                    >>>>> Please note that the above is just flame bait. The followups in the
                    >>>>> original message demonstrate this. No point replying to his nonsense.
                    >>>>
                    >>>> What origininal message?
                    >>>
                    >>> Oh, okay, you obviously have better filters than me. Sorry for the
                    >>> noise.[/color]
                    >>
                    >> It has nothing to do with filters. You changed the Subject header of
                    >> the message, and some newsreaders, like Outlook Express, do not put it
                    >> in the same thread. They make it seem that you started another thread.
                    >> Just FYI...[/color]
                    >
                    > I didn't realize OE was that bad. So it is too stupid to follow
                    > the references chain?
                    >
                    > --
                    > "If you want to post a followup via groups.google.c om, don't use
                    > the broken "Reply" link at the bottom of the article. Click on
                    > "show options" at the top of the article, then click on the
                    > "Reply" at the bottom of the article headers." - Keith Thompson
                    >[/color]
                    No, works just fine.


                    Comment

                    • Kenny McCormack

                      #11
                      Re: [Troll Alert] Re: C or C++ as a second language?

                      In article <420E6A9F.AE28C 0C2@yahoo.com>,
                      CBFalconer <cbfalconer@wor ldnet.att.net> wrote:[color=blue]
                      >Victor Bazarov wrote:[color=green]
                      >> "infobahn" <infobahn@btint ernet.com> wrote...[color=darkred]
                      >>> Noah Roberts wrote:
                      >>>> infobahn wrote:
                      >>>>
                      >>>>> Please note that the above is just flame bait. The followups in the
                      >>>>> original message demonstrate this. No point replying to his nonsense.
                      >>>>
                      >>>> What origininal message?
                      >>>
                      >>> Oh, okay, you obviously have better filters than me. Sorry for the
                      >>> noise.[/color]
                      >>
                      >> It has nothing to do with filters. You changed the Subject header of
                      >> the message, and some newsreaders, like Outlook Express, do not put it
                      >> in the same thread. They make it seem that you started another thread.
                      >> Just FYI...[/color]
                      >
                      >I didn't realize OE was that bad. So it is too stupid to follow
                      >the references chain?[/color]

                      The problem is that between people accessing Usenet via "Google" and via
                      various MS products, very few people actually use newsreaders anymore.

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                      • Randy Howard

                        #12
                        Re: [Troll Alert] Re: C or C++ as a second language?

                        Va negvpyr <phygxv$uft$1@l va.vagrenpprff. pbz>, tnmryyr@lva.vag renpprff.pbz
                        fnlf...[color=blue]
                        > Va negvpyr <420R6N9S.NR28P 0P2@lnubb.pbz>,
                        > POSnypbare <posnypbare@jbe yqarg.ngg.arg> jebgr:[color=green]
                        > >Ivpgbe Onmnebi jebgr:[color=darkred]
                        > >> "vasbonua" <vasbonua@ogvag rearg.pbz> jebgr...
                        > >>> Abnu Eboregf jebgr:
                        > >>>> vasbonua jebgr:
                        > >>>>
                        > >>>>> Cyrnfr abgr gung gur nobir vf whfg synzr onvg. Gur sbyybjhcf va gur
                        > >>>>> bevtvany zrffntr qrzbafgengr guvf. Ab cbvag ercylvat gb uvf abafrafr.
                        > >>>>
                        > >>>> Jung bevtvavany zrffntr?
                        > >>>
                        > >>> Bu, bxnl, lbh boivbhfyl unir orggre svygref guna zr. Fbeel sbe gur
                        > >>> abvfr.
                        > >>
                        > >> Vg unf abguvat gb qb jvgu svygref. Lbh punatrq gur Fhowrpg urnqre bs
                        > >> gur zrffntr, naq fbzr arjfernqref, yvxr Bhgybbx Rkcerff, qb abg chg vg
                        > >> va gur fnzr guernq. Gurl znxr vg frrz gung lbh fgnegrq nabgure guernq.
                        > >> Whfg SLV...[/color]
                        > >
                        > >V qvqa'g ernyvmr BR jnf gung onq. Fb vg vf gbb fghcvq gb sbyybj
                        > >gur ersreraprf punva?[/color]
                        >
                        > Gur ceboyrz vf gung orgjrra crbcyr npprffvat Hfrarg ivn "Tbbtyr" naq ivn
                        > inevbhf ZF cebqhpgf, irel srj crbcyr npghnyyl hfr arjfernqref nalzber.[/color]

                        Znlor vs gubfr bs hf gung qb hfr arjfernqref nyy vafvfgrq ba *bayl* cbfgvat
                        va EBG13, vg jbhyq eha nyy gur bguref bss nsgre n juvyr, nf gurl tbg gverq bs
                        frrvat nyy gur "yvar abvfr", gura jr pbhyq or onpx gb Hfrarg bs 10 lrnef ntb.



                        --
                        Enaql Ubjneq (2ercyl erzbir SBBONE)
                        "Znxvat vg uneq gb qb fghcvq guvatf bsgra znxrf vg uneq
                        gb qb fzneg barf gbb." -- Naqerj Xbravt

                        Comment

                        • Mike Wahler

                          #13
                          Re: C or C++ as a second language?

                          "Tony Polson" <tony.polson@uk u.co.uk> wrote in message
                          news:1108227892 .056641.271020@ f14g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .[color=blue]
                          > Hi. Should I jump right into C++, or is it better to learn C first?
                          > I'm not a total beginner; I know Javascript, but I obviously would like
                          > to learn a more powerful language.[/color]

                          Hmm, this smells like a troll.

                          Note the followups set by the OP:
                          rec.photo.digit al,rec.photo.eq uipment.35mm

                          -Mike


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                          • Kenny McCormack

                            #14
                            Re: [Troll Alert] Re: C or C++ as a second language?

                            In article <MPG.1c7865bff0 97ea23989fda@ne ws.verizon.net> ,
                            Randy Howard <randyhoward@FO OverizonBAR.net > wrote:[color=blue]
                            >Va negvpyr <phygxv$uft$1@l va.vagrenpprff. pbz>, tnmryyr@lva.vag renpprff.pbz
                            >fnlf...[color=green]
                            >> Va negvpyr <420R6N9S.NR28P 0P2@lnubb.pbz>,
                            >> POSnypbare <posnypbare@jbe yqarg.ngg.arg> jebgr:[color=darkred]
                            >> >Ivpgbe Onmnebi jebgr:
                            >> >> "vasbonua" <vasbonua@ogvag rearg.pbz> jebgr...
                            >> >>> Abnu Eboregf jebgr:
                            >> >>>> vasbonua jebgr:
                            >> >>>>
                            >> >>>>> Cyrnfr abgr gung gur nobir vf whfg synzr onvg. Gur sbyybjhcf va gur
                            >> >>>>> bevtvany zrffntr qrzbafgengr guvf. Ab cbvag ercylvat gb uvf abafrafr.
                            >> >>>>
                            >> >>>> Jung bevtvavany zrffntr?
                            >> >>>
                            >> >>> Bu, bxnl, lbh boivbhfyl unir orggre svygref guna zr. Fbeel sbe gur
                            >> >>> abvfr.
                            >> >>
                            >> >> Vg unf abguvat gb qb jvgu svygref. Lbh punatrq gur Fhowrpg urnqre bs
                            >> >> gur zrffntr, naq fbzr arjfernqref, yvxr Bhgybbx Rkcerff, qb abg chg vg
                            >> >> va gur fnzr guernq. Gurl znxr vg frrz gung lbh fgnegrq nabgure guernq.
                            >> >> Whfg SLV...
                            >> >
                            >> >V qvqa'g ernyvmr BR jnf gung onq. Fb vg vf gbb fghcvq gb sbyybj
                            >> >gur ersreraprf punva?[/color]
                            >>
                            >> Gur ceboyrz vf gung orgjrra crbcyr npprffvat Hfrarg ivn "Tbbtyr" naq ivn
                            >> inevbhf ZF cebqhpgf, irel srj crbcyr npghnyyl hfr arjfernqref nalzber.[/color]
                            >
                            >Znlor vs gubfr bs hf gung qb hfr arjfernqref nyy vafvfgrq ba *bayl* cbfgvat
                            >va EBG13, vg jbhyq eha nyy gur bguref bss nsgre n juvyr, nf gurl tbg gverq bs
                            >frrvat nyy gur "yvar abvfr", gura jr pbhyq or onpx gb Hfrarg bs 10 lrnef ntb.[/color]

                            Jbexf sbe zr!
                            [color=blue]
                            >--
                            >Enaql Ubjneq (2ercyl erzbir SBBONE)
                            >"Znxvat vg uneq gb qb fghcvq guvatf bsgra znxrf vg uneq
                            > gb qb fzneg barf gbb." -- Naqerj Xbravt[/color]


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                            • Jens.Toerring@physik.fu-berlin.de

                              #15
                              Re: [Troll Alert] Re: C or C++ as a second language?

                              In comp.lang.c Kenny McCormack <gazelle@yin.in teraccess.com> wrote:[color=blue]
                              > In article <MPG.1c7865bff0 97ea23989fda@ne ws.verizon.net> ,
                              > Randy Howard <randyhoward@FO OverizonBAR.net > wrote:[color=green]
                              >>Va negvpyr <phygxv$uft$1@l va.vagrenpprff. pbz>, tnmryyr@lva.vag renpprff.pbz
                              >>fnlf...[color=darkred]
                              >>> Va negvpyr <420R6N9S.NR28P 0P2@lnubb.pbz>,
                              >>> POSnypbare <posnypbare@jbe yqarg.ngg.arg> jebgr:
                              >>> >Ivpgbe Onmnebi jebgr:
                              >>> >> "vasbonua" <vasbonua@ogvag rearg.pbz> jebgr...
                              >>> >>> Abnu Eboregf jebgr:
                              >>> >>>> vasbonua jebgr:
                              >>> >>>>
                              >>> >>>>> Cyrnfr abgr gung gur nobir vf whfg synzr onvg. Gur sbyybjhcf va gur
                              >>> >>>>> bevtvany zrffntr qrzbafgengr guvf. Ab cbvag ercylvat gb uvf abafrafr.
                              >>> >>>>
                              >>> >>>> Jung bevtvavany zrffntr?
                              >>> >>>
                              >>> >>> Bu, bxnl, lbh boivbhfyl unir orggre svygref guna zr. Fbeel sbe gur
                              >>> >>> abvfr.
                              >>> >>
                              >>> >> Vg unf abguvat gb qb jvgu svygref. Lbh punatrq gur Fhowrpg urnqre bs
                              >>> >> gur zrffntr, naq fbzr arjfernqref, yvxr Bhgybbx Rkcerff, qb abg chg vg
                              >>> >> va gur fnzr guernq. Gurl znxr vg frrz gung lbh fgnegrq nabgure guernq.
                              >>> >> Whfg SLV...
                              >>> >
                              >>> >V qvqa'g ernyvmr BR jnf gung onq. Fb vg vf gbb fghcvq gb sbyybj
                              >>> >gur ersreraprf punva?
                              >>>
                              >>> Gur ceboyrz vf gung orgjrra crbcyr npprffvat Hfrarg ivn "Tbbtyr" naq ivn
                              >>> inevbhf ZF cebqhpgf, irel srj crbcyr npghnyyl hfr arjfernqref nalzber.[/color]
                              >>
                              >>Znlor vs gubfr bs hf gung qb hfr arjfernqref nyy vafvfgrq ba *bayl* cbfgvat
                              >>va EBG13, vg jbhyq eha nyy gur bguref bss nsgre n juvyr, nf gurl tbg gverq bs
                              >>frrvat nyy gur "yvar abvfr", gura jr pbhyq or onpx gb Hfrarg bs 10 lrnef ntb.[/color][/color]
                              [color=blue]
                              > Jbexf sbe zr![/color]

                              Zr gbb;-)

                              --
                              \ Wraf Gubzf Gbreevat ___ Wraf.Gbreevat@c ulfvx.sh-oreyva.qr
                              \______________ ____________ uggc://jjj.gbreevat.qr

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