Microsoft C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 7.00

[Bob]

Can anyone point me to a place where I can obtain the Microsoft C/C++
Optimizing Compiler Version 7.00. It was distributed about 10 years
ago on floppy diskettes.

I had a valid license but accidentally threw out the diskettes when I
cleaned up once. Now I need to install it and I therefore am looking
to replace the diskettes.

Thanks.

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[Claudio Puviani]

Re: [OT] Microsoft C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 7.00

"Bob" <spam@spam.co m> wrote[color=blue]
> Can anyone point me to a place where I can obtain the Microsoft C/C++
> Optimizing Compiler Version 7.00. It was distributed about 10 years
> ago on floppy diskettes.
>
> I had a valid license but accidentally threw out the diskettes when I
> cleaned up once. Now I need to install it and I therefore am looking
> to replace the diskettes.[/color]

Consider using Digital Mars C++ instead: http://www.digitalmars.com/

It's up-to-date (MSVC++ 7 had no templates, exceptions, RTTI, etc.) and handles
16-bit DOS and Windows development.

Claudio Puviani

[Ioannis Vranos]

Re: Microsoft C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 7.00

"Bob" <spam@spam.co m> wrote in message
news:40934234.5 8107183@news-server.houston. rr.com...[color=blue]
> Can anyone point me to a place where I can obtain the Microsoft C/C++
> Optimizing Compiler Version 7.00. It was distributed about 10 years
> ago on floppy diskettes.
>
> I had a valid license but accidentally threw out the diskettes when I
> cleaned up once. Now I need to install it and I therefore am looking
> to replace the diskettes.[/color]


I suggest DJGPP or MINGW.






Ioannis Vranos

[Bob]

Re: Microsoft C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 7.00

On Sat, 1 May 2004 10:00:55 +0300, "Ioannis Vranos"
<ivr@guesswh.at .emails.ru> wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Can anyone point me to a place where I can obtain the Microsoft C/C++
>> Optimizing Compiler Version 7.00. It was distributed about 10 years
>> ago on floppy diskettes.[/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> I had a valid license but accidentally threw out the diskettes when I
>> cleaned up once. Now I need to install it and I therefore am looking
>> to replace the diskettes.[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
>I suggest DJGPP or MINGW.[/color]

There are many good compilers out there but I am so used to
Microsoft's version that it isn't worth the effort to switch.


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[Bob]

Re: [OT] Microsoft C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 7.00

On Sat, 01 May 2004 06:45:44 GMT, "Claudio Puviani"
<puviani@hotmai l.com> wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Can anyone point me to a place where I can obtain the Microsoft C/C++
>> Optimizing Compiler Version 7.00. It was distributed about 10 years
>> ago on floppy diskettes.[/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> I had a valid license but accidentally threw out the diskettes when I
>> cleaned up once. Now I need to install it and I therefore am looking
>> to replace the diskettes.[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
>Consider using Digital Mars C++ instead: http://www.digitalmars.com/[/color]
[color=blue]
>It's up-to-date (MSVC++ 7 had no templates, exceptions, RTTI, etc.) and handles
>16-bit DOS and Windows development.[/color]

As I mentioned earlier, there are many good compilers out there but I
am so used to Microsoft's version that it isn't worth the effort to
switch.

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[Shailesh]

Re: Microsoft C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 7.00

If it works for you, you can get the Microsoft Visual C++ Toolkit with
version 13 compiler, linker, and standard libraries for free from here:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/vctoolkit2003/

[Bob]

Re: Microsoft C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 7.00

On Sat, 01 May 2004 07:03:30 GMT, Shailesh <shailesh@nothi ng.but.net>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>If it works for you, you can get the Microsoft Visual C++ Toolkit with
>version 13 compiler, linker, and standard libraries for free from here:[/color]
[color=blue]
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/vctoolkit2003/[/color]

I am downloading it now.

Based on the terse description provided, am I to understand that this
is a command-line based compiler like the one I originally had?

Do you know where there is a more complete description?

Thanks,

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[Shailesh]

Re: Microsoft C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 7.00

Bob wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/vctoolkit2003/[/color]
>
> I am downloading it now.
>
> Based on the terse description provided, am I to understand that this
> is a command-line based compiler like the one I originally had?
>
> Do you know where there is a more complete description?
>
> Thanks,
>[/color]

Yeah. I never downloaded it, but this toolkit should include cl.exe,
link.exe, and the other command-line utilities for building c/c++
programs. Full Visual Studio would give you the IDE that interfaces
to these tools. This toolkit was released recently, and I presume to
take some wind out of the gaining popularity of open source build
tools like gcc. The documentation is the same as for Visual Studio.
Good places to get more information would be http://tinyurl.com/2b35x
and the public msnews.microsof t.com newsgroup server.

[Bob]

Re: Microsoft C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 7.00

On Sat, 01 May 2004 18:53:58 GMT, Shailesh <shailesh@nothi ng.but.net>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Yeah. I never downloaded it, but this toolkit should include cl.exe,
>link.exe, and the other command-line utilities for building c/c++
>programs. Full Visual Studio would give you the IDE that interfaces
>to these tools. This toolkit was released recently, and I presume to
>take some wind out of the gaining popularity of open source build
>tools like gcc. The documentation is the same as for Visual Studio.
>Good places to get more information would be http://tinyurl.com/2b35x
>and the public msnews.microsof t.com newsgroup server.[/color]

Thanks so much. Not only do I get my favorite command line compiler, I
also get it in modern form - and for free, although I did own the
license for 7.00.

I got the license from MS free for having submitted a rather nasty
pointer bug in an earlier version of the compiler. They verified it
and sent me a free update, which was 7.00.

Those were the good old days when you could phone directly into the
developer's group and talk to an intelligent human being. Now all you
get is phone banks in third world countries. I remember talking to
actual MS developers in their Macro Assembler group before they even
had a C Compiler (c. 1984).


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[Shailesh Humbad]

Re: [OT] Microsoft C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 7.00

Bob wrote:[color=blue]
> Thanks so much. Not only do I get my favorite command line compiler, I
> also get it in modern form - and for free, although I did own the
> license for 7.00.
>
> I got the license from MS free for having submitted a rather nasty
> pointer bug in an earlier version of the compiler. They verified it
> and sent me a free update, which was 7.00.
>
> Those were the good old days when you could phone directly into the
> developer's group and talk to an intelligent human being. Now all you
> get is phone banks in third world countries. I remember talking to
> actual MS developers in their Macro Assembler group before they even
> had a C Compiler (c. 1984).
>
>[/color]

You're welcome. You can still reach Microsoft experts if you post in
the msnews.microsof t.com newsgroups. With an MSDN subscription, you
are entitled to a reply. You can also call in for paid support
instances. My point is just that they are still reachable, but unlike
the "good ol' days", it costs money.


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[Bob]

Re: [OT] Microsoft C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 7.00

On Sun, 02 May 2004 07:56:49 GMT, Shailesh Humbad <s@mailpass.com >
wrote:
[color=blue]
>You're welcome. You can still reach Microsoft experts if you post in
>the msnews.microsof t.com newsgroups.[/color]

Unfortunately Road Runner doesn't carry those forums.
[color=blue]
> With an MSDN subscription, you
>are entitled to a reply. You can also call in for paid support
>instances. My point is just that they are still reachable, but unlike
>the "good ol' days", it costs money.[/color]

Actually what I am looking for is the documentation - installation,
use etc. I know how to program in C/C++ and I managed not to toss
most of the language references. But it's those pesky environment
variables and other setup parameters that get you every time.


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[John Harrison]

Re: [OT] Microsoft C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 7.00


"Bob" <spam@spam.co m> wrote in message
news:4094f75d.1 70030320@news-server.houston. rr.com...[color=blue]
> On Sun, 02 May 2004 07:56:49 GMT, Shailesh Humbad <s@mailpass.com >
> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >You're welcome. You can still reach Microsoft experts if you post in
> >the msnews.microsof t.com newsgroups.[/color]
>
> Unfortunately Road Runner doesn't carry those forums.
>[/color]

Microsoft have their own publicly accessible news server, the address is
msnews.microsof t.com. The groups themselves are called
microsoft.publi c.vc.whatever. Maybe you are confusing the group name with
the name of the server.

john

[Bob]

Re: [OT] Microsoft C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 7.00

On Sun, 2 May 2004 14:48:15 +0100, "John Harrison"
<john_andronicu s@hotmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Unfortunately Road Runner doesn't carry those forums.[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
>Microsoft have their own publicly accessible news server, the address is
>msnews.microso ft.com. The groups themselves are called
>microsoft.publ ic.vc.whatever. Maybe you are confusing the group name with
>the name of the server.[/color]

I was hoping that the forums would also be carried on RR.

Unfortunately in order to access another news server, I have to set up
a second copy of Free Agent if I want to continue accessing the
current forums from the RR news server.

All I am really trying to do is find out if there is documentation for
that compiler. I have not unzipped the distribution yet, so maybe it's
inside.


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[Shailesh Humbad]

Re: [OT] Microsoft C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 7.00

Bob wrote:[color=blue]
> I was hoping that the forums would also be carried on RR.
>
> Unfortunately in order to access another news server, I have to set up
> a second copy of Free Agent if I want to continue accessing the
> current forums from the RR news server.[/color]

Don't know if you want to learn a new newsreader, but in (free)
Mozilla 1.7, you can set up any number of news servers.
[color=blue]
> All I am really trying to do is find out if there is documentation for
> that compiler. I have not unzipped the distribution yet, so maybe it's
> inside.
>[/color]

http://tinyurl.com/2b35x - The compiler documentation in MSDN Library,
with all settings explained. (Go to section "Compiler Options")

[Bob]

Re: [OT] Microsoft C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 7.00

On Sun, 02 May 2004 17:10:34 GMT, Shailesh Humbad <s@mailpass.com >
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Don't know if you want to learn a new newsreader, but in (free)
>Mozilla 1.7, you can set up any number of news servers.[/color]

Yes, I could indeed do that, but being a creature of habit, I want to
stick with Free Agent, which I have been using since it first came
out.
[color=blue][color=green]
>> All I am really trying to do is find out if there is documentation for
>> that compiler. I have not unzipped the distribution yet, so maybe it's
>> inside.[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
>http://tinyurl.com/2b35x - The compiler documentation in MSDN Library,
>with all settings explained. (Go to section "Compiler Options")[/color]

Hey, that looks just like V 7.00, all the way down to NMAKE. I believe
I was one of a very small group of people who took the time to figure
out how MS's version of MAKE actually worked. That's what happens when
you have too much spare time on your hands. I am convinced that
whoever wrote the documentation back then did not know how to use it.

I wonder if they have a newer version of CodeView. I looked but could
not find it.

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