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  • Alisa
    #1

    MVC

    Hi, I am reading a lot about MVC pattern and I wonder - are there any
    known programs that were developed and do not implement MVC?
    I thought Outlook is one becuase the item object is not seperated from
    it's UI/ form - but I am not sure...
    Does any one have a stronger example?
    Thanks,
    Alisa

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    • Gabriel Lozano-Morán
      #2
      Re: MVC

      A good GUI design will always use the MVC pattern where you seperate the
      view of a class/model from the class itself. It is not because you don't see
      several different views of an Outlook item that Outlook does not use the MVC
      pattern.

      When creating a Winforms or Web application you use the MVC pattern, maybe
      even without knowing it. You create GUI elements (VIEW) and hook to the
      events and in these event you write logic (CONTROLLER) that changes the data
      of classes (MODEL).

      Gabriel Lozano-Morán


      "Alisa" <inbal.zilberma n@sap.com> wrote in message
      news:1134989814 .850090.303990@ g44g2000cwa.goo glegroups.com.. .[color=blue]
      > Hi, I am reading a lot about MVC pattern and I wonder - are there any
      > known programs that were developed and do not implement MVC?
      > I thought Outlook is one becuase the item object is not seperated from
      > it's UI/ form - but I am not sure...
      > Does any one have a stronger example?
      > Thanks,
      > Alisa
      >[/color]


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        • Mahesh Devjibhai Dhola [MVP]
          #3
          Re: MVC

          Hi,
          IMHO, .Net technologies have own implementation way of MVC so can't say that
          exactly MVC is implemented but....
          ASP.NET has View[aspx or aspx.cs or aspx.vb] and Controller [aspx.cs or
          aspx.vb] and Model is not hard coded visual thing but whatever data model is
          used, you can consider as MODEL.
          Same way, in WinForms.

          Basically,
          View is UI and related classes,
          Controller: Controlling classes which interected by UI for any event
          handling or for any other custom actions[e.g event handling in Asp.Net and
          Windows forms]
          Model: A object representation of your Data

          You must be using all these things even you dont know sometimes, partially
          or fully.....

          If you dont follow the MVC architecture exactly then also it will be there
          partially always. so it depends on the appliction design that how it is
          implemented.

          Also, MVC is not a pattern in fact, its an architecture which is built using
          4-5 design patterns like Observer, Composite etc.

          It helps you to make your application more extensible, and manageable by
          implementing these patterns.

          "Alisa" <inbal.zilberma n@sap.com> wrote in message
          news:1134989814 .850090.303990@ g44g2000cwa.goo glegroups.com.. .[color=blue]
          > Hi, I am reading a lot about MVC pattern and I wonder - are there any
          > known programs that were developed and do not implement MVC?
          > I thought Outlook is one becuase the item object is not seperated from
          > it's UI/ form - but I am not sure...
          > Does any one have a stronger example?
          > Thanks,
          > Alisa
          >[/color]


            Comment

            • Alisa
              #4
              Re: MVC

              Hi Gabriel,
              Thanks for the quick answer.
              I need an opisite examle for mvc - do you have one?

                Comment

                • Gabriel Lozano-Morán
                  #5
                  Re: MVC

                  The command prompt might be an example :)

                  Gabriel

                  "Alisa" <inbal.zilberma n@sap.com> wrote in message
                  news:1135006500 .597222.258070@ f14g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .[color=blue]
                  > Hi Gabriel,
                  > Thanks for the quick answer.
                  > I need an opisite examle for mvc - do you have one?
                  >[/color]


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                    • Bob Powell [MVP]
                      #6
                      Re: MVC

                      There are many awful programs that should implement simple patterns and do
                      not. There are also many that implement the pattern almost by accident.

                      Many Windows Forms applications use databinding. This is an implementation
                      of MVC that happens under the covers.

                      MVC is such a simple pattern that it's almost trivial to implement in a
                      forms application.

                      --
                      Bob Powell [MVP]
                      Visual C#, System.Drawing

                      Ramuseco Limited .NET consulting
                      http://www.ramuseco.com


                      Find great Windows Forms articles in Windows Forms Tips and Tricks
                      http://www.bobpowell.net/tipstricks.htm


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                      Subscribe to the RSS feeds provided and never miss a new article.





                      "Alisa" <inbal.zilberma n@sap.com> wrote in message
                      news:1134989814 .850090.303990@ g44g2000cwa.goo glegroups.com.. .[color=blue]
                      > Hi, I am reading a lot about MVC pattern and I wonder - are there any
                      > known programs that were developed and do not implement MVC?
                      > I thought Outlook is one becuase the item object is not seperated from
                      > it's UI/ form - but I am not sure...
                      > Does any one have a stronger example?
                      > Thanks,
                      > Alisa
                      >[/color]


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                        • kids_pro
                          #7
                          Re: MVC

                          take a look at www.springframework.net even I am still not sure how to
                          use it but they mention about MVC.

                          Bob Powell [MVP] wrote:[color=blue]
                          > There are many awful programs that should implement simple patterns and do
                          > not. There are also many that implement the pattern almost by accident.
                          >
                          > Many Windows Forms applications use databinding. This is an implementation
                          > of MVC that happens under the covers.
                          >
                          > MVC is such a simple pattern that it's almost trivial to implement in a
                          > forms application.
                          >[/color]

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                            • Mahesh Devjibhai Dhola [MVP]
                              #8
                              Re: MVC

                              Hi,
                              IMHO, .Net technologies have own implementation way of MVC so can't say that
                              exactly MVC is implemented but....
                              ASP.NET has View[aspx or aspx.cs or aspx.vb] and Controller [aspx.cs or
                              aspx.vb] and Model is not hard coded visual thing but whatever data model is
                              used, you can consider as MODEL.
                              Same way, in WinForms.

                              Basically,
                              View is UI and related classes,
                              Controller: Controlling classes which interected by UI for any event
                              handling or for any other custom actions[e.g event handling in Asp.Net and
                              Windows forms]
                              Model: A object representation of your Data

                              You must be using all these things even you dont know sometimes, partially
                              or fully.....

                              If you dont follow the MVC architecture exactly then also it will be there
                              partially always. so it depends on the appliction design that how it is
                              implemented.

                              Also, MVC is not a pattern in fact, its an architecture which is built using
                              4-5 design patterns like Observer, Composite etc.

                              It helps you to make your application more extensible, and manageable by
                              implementing these patterns.

                              HTH,
                              "Alisa" <inbal.zilberma n@sap.com> wrote in message
                              news:1134989814 .850090.303990@ g44g2000cwa.goo glegroups.com.. .[color=blue]
                              > Hi, I am reading a lot about MVC pattern and I wonder - are there any
                              > known programs that were developed and do not implement MVC?
                              > I thought Outlook is one becuase the item object is not seperated from
                              > it's UI/ form - but I am not sure...
                              > Does any one have a stronger example?
                              > Thanks,
                              > Alisa
                              >[/color]


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                                • Venkat_KL
                                  #9
                                  Re: MVC

                                  Hi Dear Alisa,

                                  You want an example of Big Company Products? or any other will do?

                                  Normally, All the VB6.0 Application where it was not supporting full
                                  Object Orient Programming, you can see several custom build application
                                  where View and Controller would be clubed.

                                  Bye
                                  Venkat_KL

                                  For Anything and Everything, Please Let Me Know

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