VB compiler VS CS compiler

[_AnonCoward]

Re: VB compiler VS CS compiler

Can you give an example?


"Dave" <DavidWills1@ho tmail.com> wrote in message
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: Well, you can declare types in an interface in VB.NET, while it
: generates an error in CS. Sth like an abstract class in an interface
: "(Mustinher it" in VB)....So, i think wheher CS or VB is doing sth
: wrong here.
:
: "Rob Windsor [MVP]" <rob.windsor.no .spam@gmail.com > wrote in message
: news:%23FZ2QX9V FHA.584@TK2MSFT NGP15.phx.gbl.. .
: > I'm curious, what "real OOP" can you do in C# that can't be done in
: > VB.NET?
:
:

[Dave]

Re: VB compiler VS CS compiler

"_AnonCowar d" <abc@xyz.com> wrote in message
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> Can you give an example?[/color]

This is what i found in one of the posts to
microsoft.publi c.dotnet.langua ges.vb on Friday, April 15, 2005 3:12 PM

The following will compile in VB.NET 2003
-------------------------------------------------------

Public Interface IRenderable
Sub Render()
MustInherit Class Engine
MustOverride Sub TurnOn()
Interface IAutomatic
Sub Start()
End Interface
End Class
End Interface

--------------------------------

Do exactly the same thing in C#.NET 2003; it generates an error. It won't
compile.

[Nick Malik [Microsoft]]

Re: VB compiler VS CS compiler

how does this make C# a real OO language where VB.Net is not?

I see a minor language difference. I don't see something that prevents you
from describing VB as an OO language.

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"Dave" <DavidWills1@ho tmail.com> wrote in message
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> "_AnonCowar d" <abc@xyz.com> wrote in message
> news:n95he.2492 5$vi2.927267@tw ister.southeast .rr.com...[color=green]
>> Can you give an example?[/color]
>
> This is what i found in one of the posts to
> microsoft.publi c.dotnet.langua ges.vb on Friday, April 15, 2005 3:12 PM
>
> The following will compile in VB.NET 2003
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> Public Interface IRenderable
> Sub Render()
> MustInherit Class Engine
> MustOverride Sub TurnOn()
> Interface IAutomatic
> Sub Start()
> End Interface
> End Class
> End Interface
>
> --------------------------------
>
> Do exactly the same thing in C#.NET 2003; it generates an error. It won't
> compile.
>
>[/color]

[Cor Ligthert]

Re: VB compiler VS CS compiler

Dave,

I hope that I don't kick to many people with this message. In my opinion is
OO not direct programming related.

When there was 100 years ago a house build in my country, than most parts
were created on the place where the building would come.

Now they are designed first where as much elements from prefab classes are
used.

For me is that the essence of OOP. That there is syntax around it tells
nothing. The same as with building houses are (and should) the methods that
creates the classes every time be better and better.

Just my thought,

Cor

[Dave]

Re: VB compiler VS CS compiler


"Cor Ligthert" <notmyfirstname @planet.nl> wrote in message
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> Dave,
>
> I hope that I don't kick to many people with this message. In my opinion
> is OO not direct programming related.
>
> When there was 100 years ago a house build in my country, than most parts
> were created on the place where the building would come.
>
> Now they are designed first where as much elements from prefab classes are
> used.
>
> For me is that the essence of OOP. That there is syntax around it tells
> nothing. The same as with building houses are (and should) the methods
> that creates the classes every time be better and better.
>
> Just my thought,
>
> Cor[/color]

You are right probably.... it might be a matter of personal taste. But
believe me, coming from the world of VB6 into VB.NET was not only a "shock",
but also the oop concepts were too odd to swallow. I couldn't really get
on it...There were all those powerful object facilities in VB.NET...
i just couldn't exploit them...maybe because of the background-VB syntax i
had
in my thinking patterns.
The change to C# for me was a way to pass over that obstacle. Everything is
where it has to be, the language is as brief and as original as possible...
and it is now that i am realizing what OOP really is and what goes on at the
heart of the
framework.

As i said...just my thought of course.

[Xepol]

RE: VB compiler VS CS compiler

> for (cnt = 0; cnt < 20; cnt++)

this loop runs from 0 to 19, 20 itterations.
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> For cnt = 0 To 20[/color]

This loop runs from 0 to 20, 21 itterations.

All of your loops have this flaw, something to watch out for as in the case
of your test, the problem in each loop level tends to build up exponentially,
in this case you would be running about 100*10000000 extra loops in your VB
code, obviously not good for comparisons (and flat out evil if you are trying
to exactly reproduce code).

For cnt = 0 to 20 is equivalent to for (int cnt=0; cnt<=20; cnt++)

Moving from a 1 based universe to a zero based universe can be annoying
(every time I move from delphi strings to c strings it gives me a headache),
but you gotta watch those details.

- Clinton R. Johnson