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  • josh
    #1

    ASP.NET programming model

    Hi,

    I have a simple question:

    If with ASP.NET model I can program almost every HTML element how if
    had a framework object
    (as if I programmed a Win application: event-driven)

    why are there javascript framework libraries like YUI, prototype,
    elaJa etc., that allow to
    program the UI and that some of them have also effects, drag&drop etc?

    So my doubt is should I use ASP.NET only for back-end and programs UI
    with Javacript frameworks?

    Maybe are the web programmers splitted in two development directions?

    Thanks
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    • George Ter-Saakov
      #2
      Re: ASP.NET programming model

      Why is there more that 1 brand of milk?
      Cause people as a programmers are different.

      Also .NET is server side programming, YUI, prototype is a client side
      programming.
      So they need to coexist. They serve different purposes.
      You can not do shadow effect with .NET

      The AJAX library is a (somewhat) replacement for YUI,.... And it coexist
      with .NET natively. So you might think about using it instead of other
      JavaScript libraries.

      George.



      "josh" <xdevel1999@gma il.comwrote in message
      news:79db07c6-57f6-42c2-8214-4acbc1e722b6@y2 1g2000hsf.googl egroups.com...
      Hi,
      >
      I have a simple question:
      >
      If with ASP.NET model I can program almost every HTML element how if
      had a framework object
      (as if I programmed a Win application: event-driven)
      >
      why are there javascript framework libraries like YUI, prototype,
      elaJa etc., that allow to
      program the UI and that some of them have also effects, drag&drop etc?
      >
      So my doubt is should I use ASP.NET only for back-end and programs UI
      with Javacript frameworks?
      >
      Maybe are the web programmers splitted in two development directions?
      >
      Thanks

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        • =?Utf-8?B?YnJ1Y2UgYmFya2Vy?=
          #3
          RE: ASP.NET programming model

          asp.net does a good job of looking like an event driven api like winforms but
          it has several limitations. every event requires posting all form input to
          the server, the server regenerating the html, and the browser rerendering the
          html. while this may not be noticable on your local dev box, on an internet
          site it can be seconds from clicking a button and seeing a response.

          those that want a more 2 tier (or 3 tier) approach, switch to the browser
          and javascript, which really is like winform events. you can respond to mouse
          events, add a value to a dropdrown without redrwing the whole screen, etc.

          asp.net has fallen behind in the rich client development. MS current push is
          to use silverlight instead of browser (as you can code the UI in a .net
          language), while others (say google or apple) are building tools to make
          coding browser/javascript easier.

          -- bruce (sqlwork.com)


          "josh" wrote:
          Hi,
          >
          I have a simple question:
          >
          If with ASP.NET model I can program almost every HTML element how if
          had a framework object
          (as if I programmed a Win application: event-driven)
          >
          why are there javascript framework libraries like YUI, prototype,
          elaJa etc., that allow to
          program the UI and that some of them have also effects, drag&drop etc?
          >
          So my doubt is should I use ASP.NET only for back-end and programs UI
          with Javacript frameworks?
          >
          Maybe are the web programmers splitted in two development directions?
          >
          Thanks
          >

            Comment

            • josh
              #4
              Re: ASP.NET programming model

              On 22 Apr, 16:03, "George Ter-Saakov" <gt-...@cardone.com wrote:
              Why is there more that 1 brand of milk?
              Cause people as a programmers are different.
              >
              Also .NET is server side programming, YUI, prototype is a client side
              programming.
              So they need to coexist. They serve different purposes.
              You can not do shadow effect with .NET
              yes they serve different purpose but with ASP.NET Javascript and
              relative frameworks are not more useful. In fact the business logic
              is made with ASP.NET and its event-driven model.

              so I don't know which is the best, maybe ASP.NET shoud be used only
              for
              back-end operations (db access) while the UI management must be done
              with a light Javascript framework

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                • George Ter-Saakov
                  #5
                  Re: ASP.NET programming model

                  I do not think you have many options here.
                  If you writing web applications. Then you must use a browser on a client
                  site. And Browsers do not support .NET
                  So your only choice is JavaScript....

                  For the server side .NET is perfect.


                  George.


                  "josh" <xdevel1999@gma il.comwrote in message
                  news:e87ff79c-4237-487b-9ea1-3d37bf2a3a53@x4 1g2000hsb.googl egroups.com...
                  On 22 Apr, 16:03, "George Ter-Saakov" <gt-...@cardone.com wrote:
                  >Why is there more that 1 brand of milk?
                  >Cause people as a programmers are different.
                  >>
                  >Also .NET is server side programming, YUI, prototype is a client side
                  >programming.
                  >So they need to coexist. They serve different purposes.
                  >You can not do shadow effect with .NET
                  >
                  yes they serve different purpose but with ASP.NET Javascript and
                  relative frameworks are not more useful. In fact the business logic
                  is made with ASP.NET and its event-driven model.
                  >
                  so I don't know which is the best, maybe ASP.NET shoud be used only
                  for
                  back-end operations (db access) while the UI management must be done
                  with a light Javascript framework
                  >

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                    • clintonG
                      #6
                      Re: ASP.NET programming model

                      I've started using --only-- the CSS from the YUI. Very well done.



                      "George Ter-Saakov" <gt-nsp@cardone.com wrote in message
                      news:%23OgyWGIp IHA.1736@TK2MSF TNGP04.phx.gbl. ..
                      Why is there more that 1 brand of milk?
                      Cause people as a programmers are different.
                      >
                      Also .NET is server side programming, YUI, prototype is a client side
                      programming.
                      So they need to coexist. They serve different purposes.
                      You can not do shadow effect with .NET
                      >
                      The AJAX library is a (somewhat) replacement for YUI,.... And it coexist
                      with .NET natively. So you might think about using it instead of other
                      JavaScript libraries.
                      >
                      George.
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      "josh" <xdevel1999@gma il.comwrote in message
                      news:79db07c6-57f6-42c2-8214-4acbc1e722b6@y2 1g2000hsf.googl egroups.com...
                      >Hi,
                      >>
                      >I have a simple question:
                      >>
                      >If with ASP.NET model I can program almost every HTML element how if
                      >had a framework object
                      >(as if I programmed a Win application: event-driven)
                      >>
                      >why are there javascript framework libraries like YUI, prototype,
                      >elaJa etc., that allow to
                      >program the UI and that some of them have also effects, drag&drop etc?
                      >>
                      >So my doubt is should I use ASP.NET only for back-end and programs UI
                      >with Javacript frameworks?
                      >>
                      >Maybe are the web programmers splitted in two development directions?
                      >>
                      >Thanks
                      >
                      >

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