Page Loading Slow

**=?Utf-8?B?V2FubmFiZQ==?=** · Apr 6 '07, 12:25 PM

Page Loading Slow -- More Information

I forgot to mention that when the submit button is clicked, the page begins
to load and starts out loading very slow. If I click the submit button again,
the page then loads very quickly. Also, in case it matters, the framework is
1.1.

"Wannabe" wrote:

We have a page that is loading very slow. There is not a lot of data, not a
lot of users are connected at the same time and the page does not produce an
error, so I am not sure where to start to look for why it is slowing down. I
thought about the DB first and added NOLOCK to a couple of stored procedures
that were being run, but with no effect. Can someone offer some tips on where
to start looking or how I can begin to diagnose this problem? Thank you.

**=?Utf-8?B?UGV0ZXIgQnJvbWJlcmcgW0MjIE1WUF0=?=** · Apr 6 '07, 12:55 PM

RE: Page Loading Slow -- More Information

Wannabe,
It *Sounds* like a database issue, from the small amount of information you
have actually provided. Give more details or sample code. If you want, you
can use the Stopwatch class to time the various portions of the page load, or
you can just turn on Page Tracing and look at the times reported in its
output to see where the hangup is.

How long does "just the database code" take to execute? That, to me, would
be the key area here.
Peter

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"Wannabe" wrote:

I forgot to mention that when the submit button is clicked, the page begins
to load and starts out loading very slow. If I click the submit button again,
the page then loads very quickly. Also, in case it matters, the framework is
1.1.
>
"Wannabe" wrote:
>

We have a page that is loading very slow. There is not a lot of data, not a
lot of users are connected at the same time and the page does not produce an
error, so I am not sure where to start to look for why it is slowing down. I
thought about the DB first and added NOLOCK to a couple of stored procedures
that were being run, but with no effect. Can someone offer some tips on where
to start looking or how I can begin to diagnose this problem? Thank you.

**=?Utf-8?B?V2FubmFiZQ==?=** · Apr 6 '07, 01:25 PM

RE: Page Loading Slow -- More Information

I have checked the database and the stored procedures run quite fast. I have
included a trace from the page. Not sure of how to read it myself.

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"Peter Bromberg [C# MVP]" wrote:

Wannabe,
It *Sounds* like a database issue, from the small amount of information you
have actually provided. Give more details or sample code. If you want, you
can use the Stopwatch class to time the various portions of the page load, or
you can just turn on Page Tracing and look at the times reported in its
output to see where the hangup is.
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How long does "just the database code" take to execute? That, to me, would
be the key area here.
Peter
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"Wannabe" wrote:
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I forgot to mention that when the submit button is clicked, the page begins
to load and starts out loading very slow. If I click the submit button again,
the page then loads very quickly. Also, in case it matters, the framework is
1.1.

"Wannabe" wrote:

We have a page that is loading very slow. There is not a lot of data, not a
lot of users are connected at the same time and the page does not produce an
error, so I am not sure where to start to look for why it is slowing down. I
thought about the DB first and added NOLOCK to a couple of stored procedures
that were being run, but with no effect. Can someone offer some tips on where
to start looking or how I can begin to diagnose this problem? Thank you.

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RE: Page Loading Slow -- More Information

OK, well maybe it would be a good time for all of us to learn what to look
at. I don't need to go any further than this:

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As you can see above, your page is taking a long time in the PreRender
phase, and again taking a long time in the Render Phase. I suspect you've got
some complex databinding and a lot of controls, or one very complicated
control such as a grid, that's taking a long time and generating a lot of
ViewState. So that's where you need to spend your time. The Database call is
not even an issue here.
Peter

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"Wannabe" wrote:

I have checked the database and the stored procedures run quite fast. I have
included a trace from the page. Not sure of how to read it myself.
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"Peter Bromberg [C# MVP]" wrote:
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Wannabe,
It *Sounds* like a database issue, from the small amount of information you
have actually provided. Give more details or sample code. If you want, you
can use the Stopwatch class to time the various portions of the page load, or
you can just turn on Page Tracing and look at the times reported in its
output to see where the hangup is.

How long does "just the database code" take to execute? That, to me, would
be the key area here.
Peter

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"Wannabe" wrote:

I forgot to mention that when the submit button is clicked, the page begins
to load and starts out loading very slow. If I click the submit button again,
the page then loads very quickly. Also, in case it matters, the framework is
1.1.
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"Wannabe" wrote:
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We have a page that is loading very slow. There is not a lot of data, not a
lot of users are connected at the same time and the page does not produce an
error, so I am not sure where to start to look for why it is slowing down. I
thought about the DB first and added NOLOCK to a couple of stored procedures
that were being run, but with no effect. Can someone offer some tips on where
to start looking or how I can begin to diagnose this problem? Thank you.

**bruce barker** · Apr 6 '07, 03:55 PM

Re: Page Loading Slow -- More Information

there is nothing here to indicate a problem. a couple of things to try:

1. the html is complex and takes a long time to render. to test, save as
html and load from file system.

2. the html references another url that takes a long time. check web
logs for times.

3. authentication takes a long time. (turn on anonymous and test).

4. do a network trace and look for timeouts.

-- bruce (sqlwork.com)

Peter Bromberg [C# MVP] wrote:

OK, well maybe it would be a good time for all of us to learn what to look
at. I don't need to go any further than this:
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As you can see above, your page is taking a long time in the PreRender
phase, and again taking a long time in the Render Phase. I suspect you've got
some complex databinding and a lot of controls, or one very complicated
control such as a grid, that's taking a long time and generating a lot of
ViewState. So that's where you need to spend your time. The Database call is
not even an issue here.
Peter
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