Polymorphism question

[Kees de Winter]

HI,

How can I access the fields and methods of a subclass in a variable that was
declared as a parent-class and instantiated as a subclass.

Public Class Communication
Public Response As Message
some more stuff
End Class


Public Class Message
some fields, methods etc.
End Class

Public Class Letter
Inherits Message
Public Stamp As String
End Class

Public Class Email
Inherits Message
Public Emailaddress As String
End Class


Now in the main procedure, say pageload, I'd like to easily use code like
this:

Dim Communication1 As New Communication
Communication1. Response.EmailA ddress = "bla"

But of course it's not possible, I need to use:
CType(Communica tion1.Response, Email).EmailAdd ress = "bla"

Is there a way to accomplish this? I have also tried by providing a
Enum-type variable in the constructor of the Communication class and then to
instantiate "Response" with the chosen subclass but to no avail.

Thank you for your time.
--
Kees

[Kevin Spencer]

Re: Polymorphism question

First of all, the Response property of the Communication class is not an
instance of the Email class, any more than a vehicle is a truck. Let me put
it this way: You're talking about inheritance here. A car is a vehicle; it
inherits vehicle. A truck is a vehicle; it inherits vehicle. But a car is
not a truck. Let's substitute the words "vehicle," "car" and "truck" for
your problem. The Communication class has a public field that is a
"vehicle." You want to be able to treat it as a truck before you define what
type of vehicle it is. Since you don't know what it is, you can only treat
it like a vehicle, that is, access the properties of it which belong to the
vehicle class, both cars and trucks.

In fact, you haven't even instantiated it, that is, created an instance of
the class to work with. You are assigning values to properties of something
that doesn't exist yet. When you create a field, you only create storage
space for something of a certain type. If it is a parent type, any class
which inherits that type is storable there. However, unless the specific
type of the class is known, your app cannot work with the properties of that
specific class. You have to define an instance of the class you want it to
be, assign it to the field of the class ity resides in, and then treat it
like the specific class you have assigned.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP

Printing Components, Email Components,
Networking Components, Controls, much more.
DSI PrintManager, Miradyne Component Libraries:

http://www.miradyne.net

"Kees de Winter" <nospam@nospam. orgwrote in message
news:46010fcd$0 $12621$ba620dc5 @text.nova.plan et.nl...

HI,
>
How can I access the fields and methods of a subclass in a variable that
was
declared as a parent-class and instantiated as a subclass.
>
Public Class Communication
Public Response As Message
some more stuff
End Class
>
>
Public Class Message
some fields, methods etc.
End Class
>
Public Class Letter
Inherits Message
Public Stamp As String
End Class
>
Public Class Email
Inherits Message
Public Emailaddress As String
End Class
>
>
Now in the main procedure, say pageload, I'd like to easily use code like
this:
>
Dim Communication1 As New Communication
Communication1. Response.EmailA ddress = "bla"
>
But of course it's not possible, I need to use:
CType(Communica tion1.Response, Email).EmailAdd ress = "bla"
>
Is there a way to accomplish this? I have also tried by providing a
Enum-type variable in the constructor of the Communication class and then
to
instantiate "Response" with the chosen subclass but to no avail.
>
Thank you for your time.
--
Kees
>
>

[Kees de Winter]

Re: Polymorphism question

Oops in my pseudo-code I forgot the constructor :

Public Class Communication
Public Sub New(ByVal enumType1 as enumType)
if enumType1 = enumType.Email Then Response = New Email
[..]
End Sub
Public Response As Message
End Class

Then the declaration is:
Dim Communication1 As New Communication(e numType.Email)
Communication1. Response.EmailA ddress = "bla" << not possible


Thank you Kevin however with this constructor added, I thought the Response
field could know that it should be an Email because it has been instantiated
as such. However apparently it doesn't look at that and sticks with how it
was declared. I don't want to fill my pages with CType's, is there a more
elegant way of coding this?

--
Kees


"Kevin Spencer" <unclechutney@n othinks.comwrot e in message
news:e1OJGb7aHH A.1240@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl...

First of all, the Response property of the Communication class is not an
instance of the Email class, any more than a vehicle is a truck. Let me

put

it this way: You're talking about inheritance here. A car is a vehicle; it
inherits vehicle. A truck is a vehicle; it inherits vehicle. But a car is
not a truck. Let's substitute the words "vehicle," "car" and "truck" for
your problem. The Communication class has a public field that is a
"vehicle." You want to be able to treat it as a truck before you define

what

type of vehicle it is. Since you don't know what it is, you can only treat
it like a vehicle, that is, access the properties of it which belong to

the

vehicle class, both cars and trucks.
>
In fact, you haven't even instantiated it, that is, created an instance of
the class to work with. You are assigning values to properties of

something

that doesn't exist yet. When you create a field, you only create storage
space for something of a certain type. If it is a parent type, any class
which inherits that type is storable there. However, unless the specific
type of the class is known, your app cannot work with the properties of

that

specific class. You have to define an instance of the class you want it to
be, assign it to the field of the class ity resides in, and then treat it
like the specific class you have assigned.
>
--
HTH,
>
Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
>
Printing Components, Email Components,
Networking Components, Controls, much more.
DSI PrintManager, Miradyne Component Libraries:

http://www.miradyne.net

>
"Kees de Winter" <nospam@nospam. orgwrote in message
news:46010fcd$0 $12621$ba620dc5 @text.nova.plan et.nl...

HI,

How can I access the fields and methods of a subclass in a variable that
was
declared as a parent-class and instantiated as a subclass.

Public Class Communication
Public Response As Message
some more stuff
End Class


Public Class Message
some fields, methods etc.
End Class

Public Class Letter
Inherits Message
Public Stamp As String
End Class

Public Class Email
Inherits Message
Public Emailaddress As String
End Class


Now in the main procedure, say pageload, I'd like to easily use code

like

this:

Dim Communication1 As New Communication
Communication1. Response.EmailA ddress = "bla"

But of course it's not possible, I need to use:
CType(Communica tion1.Response, Email).EmailAdd ress = "bla"

Is there a way to accomplish this? I have also tried by providing a
Enum-type variable in the constructor of the Communication class and

then

to
instantiate "Response" with the chosen subclass but to no avail.

Thank you for your time.
--
Kees

>
>

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Re: Polymorphism question

Kees,

As Kevin has pointed out, the problem is that the code accessing your
Communication instance does not (and cannot) know what type the Response
property is other than it derives from Response. Look at it the other way,
if the Response was a Letter, what would happen when it got to the line:

Communication1. Response.EmailA ddress = "bla"

The EmailAddress property does not exist on the Letter class!!

If the properties you want to access is common to all instances of Response,
then you could either implement it in the Response class, or declare an
abstract (MustImplement) property in Response and implement it in the sub
classes. If the property is specific to a certain subclass, then you MUST
cast to the appropriate type to be able to access it.

HTH,

Bill



"Kees de Winter" wrote:

Oops in my pseudo-code I forgot the constructor :
>
Public Class Communication
Public Sub New(ByVal enumType1 as enumType)
if enumType1 = enumType.Email Then Response = New Email
[..]
End Sub
Public Response As Message
End Class
>
Then the declaration is:
Dim Communication1 As New Communication(e numType.Email)
Communication1. Response.EmailA ddress = "bla" << not possible
>
>
Thank you Kevin however with this constructor added, I thought the Response
field could know that it should be an Email because it has been instantiated
as such. However apparently it doesn't look at that and sticks with how it
was declared. I don't want to fill my pages with CType's, is there a more
elegant way of coding this?
>
--
Kees
>
>
"Kevin Spencer" <unclechutney@n othinks.comwrot e in message
news:e1OJGb7aHH A.1240@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl...

First of all, the Response property of the Communication class is not an
instance of the Email class, any more than a vehicle is a truck. Let me

put

it this way: You're talking about inheritance here. A car is a vehicle; it
inherits vehicle. A truck is a vehicle; it inherits vehicle. But a car is
not a truck. Let's substitute the words "vehicle," "car" and "truck" for
your problem. The Communication class has a public field that is a
"vehicle." You want to be able to treat it as a truck before you define

what

type of vehicle it is. Since you don't know what it is, you can only treat
it like a vehicle, that is, access the properties of it which belong to

the

vehicle class, both cars and trucks.

In fact, you haven't even instantiated it, that is, created an instance of
the class to work with. You are assigning values to properties of

something

that doesn't exist yet. When you create a field, you only create storage
space for something of a certain type. If it is a parent type, any class
which inherits that type is storable there. However, unless the specific
type of the class is known, your app cannot work with the properties of

that

specific class. You have to define an instance of the class you want it to
be, assign it to the field of the class ity resides in, and then treat it
like the specific class you have assigned.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP

Printing Components, Email Components,
Networking Components, Controls, much more.
DSI PrintManager, Miradyne Component Libraries:

http://www.miradyne.net

"Kees de Winter" <nospam@nospam. orgwrote in message
news:46010fcd$0 $12621$ba620dc5 @text.nova.plan et.nl...

HI,
>
How can I access the fields and methods of a subclass in a variable that
was
declared as a parent-class and instantiated as a subclass.
>
Public Class Communication
Public Response As Message
some more stuff
End Class
>
>
Public Class Message
some fields, methods etc.
End Class
>
Public Class Letter
Inherits Message
Public Stamp As String
End Class
>
Public Class Email
Inherits Message
Public Emailaddress As String
End Class
>
>
Now in the main procedure, say pageload, I'd like to easily use code

like

this:
>
Dim Communication1 As New Communication
Communication1. Response.EmailA ddress = "bla"
>
But of course it's not possible, I need to use:
CType(Communica tion1.Response, Email).EmailAdd ress = "bla"
>
Is there a way to accomplish this? I have also tried by providing a
Enum-type variable in the constructor of the Communication class and

then

to
instantiate "Response" with the chosen subclass but to no avail.
>
Thank you for your time.
--
Kees
>
>

>
>
>

[Kees de Winter]

Re: Polymorphism question

Ok, thanks for your help. I got it now, what I wanted to do is just not
possible.

Kees


"Bill" <Bill@discussio ns.microsoft.co mwrote in message
news:8B592FF8-F761-439C-B1C8-610FFC8EE5B0@mi crosoft.com...

Kees,
>
As Kevin has pointed out, the problem is that the code accessing your
Communication instance does not (and cannot) know what type the Response
property is other than it derives from Response. Look at it the other

way,

if the Response was a Letter, what would happen when it got to the line:
>
Communication1. Response.EmailA ddress = "bla"
>
The EmailAddress property does not exist on the Letter class!!
>
If the properties you want to access is common to all instances of

Response,

then you could either implement it in the Response class, or declare an
abstract (MustImplement) property in Response and implement it in the sub
classes. If the property is specific to a certain subclass, then you MUST
cast to the appropriate type to be able to access it.
>
HTH,
>
Bill
>
>
>
"Kees de Winter" wrote:
>

Oops in my pseudo-code I forgot the constructor :

Public Class Communication
Public Sub New(ByVal enumType1 as enumType)
if enumType1 = enumType.Email Then Response = New Email
[..]
End Sub
Public Response As Message
End Class

Then the declaration is:
Dim Communication1 As New Communication(e numType.Email)
Communication1. Response.EmailA ddress = "bla" << not possible


Thank you Kevin however with this constructor added, I thought the

Response

field could know that it should be an Email because it has been

instantiated

as such. However apparently it doesn't look at that and sticks with how

it

was declared. I don't want to fill my pages with CType's, is there a

more

elegant way of coding this?

--
Kees


"Kevin Spencer" <unclechutney@n othinks.comwrot e in message
news:e1OJGb7aHH A.1240@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl...

First of all, the Response property of the Communication class is not

an

instance of the Email class, any more than a vehicle is a truck. Let

me

put

it this way: You're talking about inheritance here. A car is a

vehicle; it

inherits vehicle. A truck is a vehicle; it inherits vehicle. But a car

is

not a truck. Let's substitute the words "vehicle," "car" and "truck"

for

your problem. The Communication class has a public field that is a
"vehicle." You want to be able to treat it as a truck before you

define

what

type of vehicle it is. Since you don't know what it is, you can only

treat

it like a vehicle, that is, access the properties of it which belong

to

the

vehicle class, both cars and trucks.
>
In fact, you haven't even instantiated it, that is, created an

instance of

the class to work with. You are assigning values to properties of

something

that doesn't exist yet. When you create a field, you only create

storage

space for something of a certain type. If it is a parent type, any

class

which inherits that type is storable there. However, unless the

specific

type of the class is known, your app cannot work with the properties

of

that

specific class. You have to define an instance of the class you want

it to

be, assign it to the field of the class ity resides in, and then treat

it

like the specific class you have assigned.
>
--
HTH,
>
Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
>
Printing Components, Email Components,
Networking Components, Controls, much more.
DSI PrintManager, Miradyne Component Libraries:

http://www.miradyne.net

>
"Kees de Winter" <nospam@nospam. orgwrote in message
news:46010fcd$0 $12621$ba620dc5 @text.nova.plan et.nl...
HI,

How can I access the fields and methods of a subclass in a variable

that

was
declared as a parent-class and instantiated as a subclass.

Public Class Communication
Public Response As Message
some more stuff
End Class


Public Class Message
some fields, methods etc.
End Class

Public Class Letter
Inherits Message
Public Stamp As String
End Class

Public Class Email
Inherits Message
Public Emailaddress As String
End Class


Now in the main procedure, say pageload, I'd like to easily use code

like

this:

Dim Communication1 As New Communication
Communication1. Response.EmailA ddress = "bla"

But of course it's not possible, I need to use:
CType(Communica tion1.Response, Email).EmailAdd ress = "bla"

Is there a way to accomplish this? I have also tried by providing a
Enum-type variable in the constructor of the Communication class and

then

to
instantiate "Response" with the chosen subclass but to no avail.

Thank you for your time.
--
Kees


>
>

[Kevin Spencer]

Re: Polymorphism question

The type must be known. Since the parent class is the one declared, for the
code to recognize a derived class as what it is, it needs to be told.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP

Printing Components, Email Components,
Networking Components, Controls, much more.
DSI PrintManager, Miradyne Component Libraries:

http://www.miradyne.net

"Kees de Winter" <nospam@nospam. orgwrote in message
news:46012efb$0 $2026$ba620dc5@ text.nova.plane t.nl...

Oops in my pseudo-code I forgot the constructor :
>
Public Class Communication
Public Sub New(ByVal enumType1 as enumType)
if enumType1 = enumType.Email Then Response = New Email
[..]
End Sub
Public Response As Message
End Class
>
Then the declaration is:
Dim Communication1 As New Communication(e numType.Email)
Communication1. Response.EmailA ddress = "bla" << not possible
>
>
Thank you Kevin however with this constructor added, I thought the
Response
field could know that it should be an Email because it has been
instantiated
as such. However apparently it doesn't look at that and sticks with how it
was declared. I don't want to fill my pages with CType's, is there a more
elegant way of coding this?
>
--
Kees
>
>
"Kevin Spencer" <unclechutney@n othinks.comwrot e in message
news:e1OJGb7aHH A.1240@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl...

>First of all, the Response property of the Communication class is not an
>instance of the Email class, any more than a vehicle is a truck. Let me

put

>it this way: You're talking about inheritance here. A car is a vehicle;
>it
>inherits vehicle. A truck is a vehicle; it inherits vehicle. But a car is
>not a truck. Let's substitute the words "vehicle," "car" and "truck" for
>your problem. The Communication class has a public field that is a
>"vehicle." You want to be able to treat it as a truck before you define

what

>type of vehicle it is. Since you don't know what it is, you can only
>treat
>it like a vehicle, that is, access the properties of it which belong to

the

>vehicle class, both cars and trucks.
>>
>In fact, you haven't even instantiated it, that is, created an instance
>of
>the class to work with. You are assigning values to properties of

something

>that doesn't exist yet. When you create a field, you only create storage
>space for something of a certain type. If it is a parent type, any class
>which inherits that type is storable there. However, unless the specific
>type of the class is known, your app cannot work with the properties of

that

>specific class. You have to define an instance of the class you want it
>to
>be, assign it to the field of the class ity resides in, and then treat it
>like the specific class you have assigned.
>>
>--
>HTH,
>>
>Kevin Spencer
>Microsoft MVP
>>
>Printing Components, Email Components,
>Networking Components, Controls, much more.
>DSI PrintManager, Miradyne Component Libraries:
>http://www.miradyne.net
>>
>"Kees de Winter" <nospam@nospam. orgwrote in message
>news:46010fcd$ 0$12621$ba620dc 5@text.nova.pla net.nl...

HI,
>
How can I access the fields and methods of a subclass in a variable
that
was
declared as a parent-class and instantiated as a subclass.
>
Public Class Communication
Public Response As Message
some more stuff
End Class
>
>
Public Class Message
some fields, methods etc.
End Class
>
Public Class Letter
Inherits Message
Public Stamp As String
End Class
>
Public Class Email
Inherits Message
Public Emailaddress As String
End Class
>
>
Now in the main procedure, say pageload, I'd like to easily use code

like

this:
>
Dim Communication1 As New Communication
Communication1. Response.EmailA ddress = "bla"
>
But of course it's not possible, I need to use:
CType(Communica tion1.Response, Email).EmailAdd ress = "bla"
>
Is there a way to accomplish this? I have also tried by providing a
Enum-type variable in the constructor of the Communication class and

then

to
instantiate "Response" with the chosen subclass but to no avail.
>
Thank you for your time.
--
Kees
>
>

>>
>>

>
>