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  • chuckdfoster

    Windows Authentication Problem

    I am having a problem with my ASP.NET application and using Windows
    Authentication. It works until I take the "Everyone" group away from the
    permissions. Then it won't let anyone in, including the domain admins or
    local admins.

    Has anyone else ever seen this problem or know away around it?

    Thanks,
    Chuck Foster
    Programmer Analyst
    Eclipsys Corp. - St. Vincent Health System


  • Ken Halter

    #2
    Re: Windows Authentication Problem

    "chuckdfost er" <chuckdfoster@h otmail.com> wrote in message
    news:eg6YdG%23B FHA.2460@TK2MSF TNGP14.phx.gbl. ..[color=blue]
    >I am having a problem with my ASP.NET application and using Windows[/color]

    You'll find that any group that doesn't contain the word "dotnet" or "vsnet"
    is not a .Net related group. *.public.vb.* groups are all for VB Classic...
    no .Net anywhere in sight around here..

    --
    Ken Halter - MS-MVP-VB - http://www.vbsight.com
    Please keep all discussions in the groups..


    Comment

    • chuckdfoster

      #3
      Re: Windows Authentication Problem

      Ok, sorry about that. Does anyone have any ideas about my problem? Still
      having problems when I remove the 'Everyone' group.

      Thanks, Chuck


      "chuckdfost er" <chuckdfoster@h otmail.com> wrote in message
      news:eg6YdG%23B FHA.2460@TK2MSF TNGP14.phx.gbl. ..[color=blue]
      > I am having a problem with my ASP.NET application and using Windows
      > Authentication. It works until I take the "Everyone" group away from the
      > permissions. Then it won't let anyone in, including the domain admins or
      > local admins.
      >
      > Has anyone else ever seen this problem or know away around it?
      >
      > Thanks,
      > Chuck Foster
      > Programmer Analyst
      > Eclipsys Corp. - St. Vincent Health System
      >
      >[/color]


      Comment

      • Ken Halter

        #4
        Re: Windows Authentication Problem

        "DalePres" <don-t-spa-m-me@lea-ve-me-a-lone--.com> wrote in message
        news:uUuLyNACFH A.2676@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
        > The on-topic police and MVP's who complain about folks keeping the
        > discussion on topic should also know how to edit the To: box on their
        > replies so that their replies remain in the groups they apply to, don't
        > you think?
        >
        > DalePres[/color]

        The "To: box " eh? My reader has a "Newsgroups :" line... no "To: box"
        anywhere...

        On topic police? Ok... whatever... "DalePres"

        When you place files on your PC, are they all in the root folder? or, maybe
        you create folders with names that means something, like Pictures for
        example, and place all pictures there? Maybe another folder called Source
        for source code? Why not place all of your pictures in your Source folder?
        Ah heck... just dump everything in the root so you won't have to worry which
        "topic" your storing your files in...

        Now... tell me how newsgroups are different than folders on your PC... do
        you have VB5/6 code mixed with .Net code? Maybe C# code mixed with VB# code?

        In your file cabinet, tax papers mixed with your kids drawings? If not, WHY?
        If keeping things where they belong is considered a "police action" by you
        then.... might was well just toss everything in the same
        folder/drawer/whatever.

        Yeah... maybe we should just ignore those that post to "off topic" groups so
        they'll sit and wonder "why is no one answering my questions".. that would
        surely be easier than attempting to point them in the right direction just
        to have some yahoo call you the "on topic police".

        --
        Ken Halter - MS-MVP-VB - http://www.vbsight.com
        Please keep all discussions in the groups..


        Comment

        • DalePres

          #5
          Re: Windows Authentication Problem

          This is from the Microsoft MVP site.

          "For more than 11 years, the Microsoft MVP Program has recognized credible
          experts in technical communities who share a common passion for technology
          and a demonstrated willingness to share their experience with others."

          Notice that nowhere in there does it say MVP is awarded for service in
          patrolling the hallways of the Microsoft Newsgroups ensuring that everyone
          follows the rules. Instead, it says that you were awarded that title for
          technical expertise and a willingness to share that expertise. Oh well....
          It isn't the first time Microsoft made a mistake, is it?

          Have a nice life... And next time, you might consider a friendlier approach.
          Or less caffeine.

          DalePres

          "Ken Halter" <Ken_Halter@Use _Sparingly_Hotm ail.com> wrote in message
          news:uBnYU0KCFH A.2568@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
          > "DalePres" <don-t-spa-m-me@lea-ve-me-a-lone--.com> wrote in message
          > news:uUuLyNACFH A.2676@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=green]
          >> The on-topic police and MVP's who complain about folks keeping the
          >> discussion on topic should also know how to edit the To: box on their
          >> replies so that their replies remain in the groups they apply to, don't
          >> you think?
          >>
          >> DalePres[/color]
          >
          > The "To: box " eh? My reader has a "Newsgroups :" line... no "To: box"
          > anywhere...
          >
          > On topic police? Ok... whatever... "DalePres"
          >
          > When you place files on your PC, are they all in the root folder? or,
          > maybe you create folders with names that means something, like Pictures
          > for example, and place all pictures there? Maybe another folder called
          > Source for source code? Why not place all of your pictures in your Source
          > folder? Ah heck... just dump everything in the root so you won't have to
          > worry which "topic" your storing your files in...
          >
          > Now... tell me how newsgroups are different than folders on your PC... do
          > you have VB5/6 code mixed with .Net code? Maybe C# code mixed with VB#
          > code?
          >
          > In your file cabinet, tax papers mixed with your kids drawings? If not,
          > WHY? If keeping things where they belong is considered a "police action"
          > by you then.... might was well just toss everything in the same
          > folder/drawer/whatever.
          >
          > Yeah... maybe we should just ignore those that post to "off topic" groups
          > so they'll sit and wonder "why is no one answering my questions".. that
          > would surely be easier than attempting to point them in the right
          > direction just to have some yahoo call you the "on topic police".
          >
          > --
          > Ken Halter - MS-MVP-VB - http://www.vbsight.com
          > Please keep all discussions in the groups..
          >[/color]


          Comment

          • DalePres

            #6
            Re: Windows Authentication Problem

            Just a thought but are you making sure that, in the advanced permissions
            screen, you have the allow inheritable permissions box checked and the check
            box to apply the changes to subfolders checked? Generally you don't need
            both, but if the permissions have been customized beyond functionality,
            setting both boxes before saving your changed permissions will sometimes fix
            things.

            DalePres
            MCAD, MCSE, MCDBA

            "chuckdfost er" <chuckdfoster@h otmail.com> wrote in message
            news:ePawzOICFH A.3416@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
            > Ok, sorry about that. Does anyone have any ideas about my problem? Still
            > having problems when I remove the 'Everyone' group.
            >
            > Thanks, Chuck
            >
            >
            > "chuckdfost er" <chuckdfoster@h otmail.com> wrote in message
            > news:eg6YdG%23B FHA.2460@TK2MSF TNGP14.phx.gbl. ..[color=green]
            >> I am having a problem with my ASP.NET application and using Windows
            >> Authentication. It works until I take the "Everyone" group away from the
            >> permissions. Then it won't let anyone in, including the domain admins or
            >> local admins.
            >>
            >> Has anyone else ever seen this problem or know away around it?
            >>
            >> Thanks,
            >> Chuck Foster
            >> Programmer Analyst
            >> Eclipsys Corp. - St. Vincent Health System
            >>
            >>[/color]
            >
            >[/color]


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            • Galen Somerville

              #7
              Re: Windows Authentication Problem

              Oh no, top posting too

              Galen

              "DalePres" <don-t-spa-m-me@lea-ve-me-a-lone--.com> wrote in message
              news:uXL2TwMCFH A.1392@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
              > This is from the Microsoft MVP site.
              >
              > "For more than 11 years, the Microsoft MVP Program has recognized credible
              > experts in technical communities who share a common passion for technology
              > and a demonstrated willingness to share their experience with others."
              >
              > Notice that nowhere in there does it say MVP is awarded for service in
              > patrolling the hallways of the Microsoft Newsgroups ensuring that everyone
              > follows the rules. Instead, it says that you were awarded that title for
              > technical expertise and a willingness to share that expertise. Oh[/color]
              well....[color=blue]
              > It isn't the first time Microsoft made a mistake, is it?
              >
              > Have a nice life... And next time, you might consider a friendlier[/color]
              approach.[color=blue]
              > Or less caffeine.
              >
              > DalePres
              >
              > "Ken Halter" <Ken_Halter@Use _Sparingly_Hotm ail.com> wrote in message
              > news:uBnYU0KCFH A.2568@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl...[color=green]
              > > "DalePres" <don-t-spa-m-me@lea-ve-me-a-lone--.com> wrote in message
              > > news:uUuLyNACFH A.2676@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
              > >> The on-topic police and MVP's who complain about folks keeping the
              > >> discussion on topic should also know how to edit the To: box on their
              > >> replies so that their replies remain in the groups they apply to, don't
              > >> you think?
              > >>
              > >> DalePres[/color]
              > >
              > > The "To: box " eh? My reader has a "Newsgroups :" line... no "To: box"
              > > anywhere...
              > >
              > > On topic police? Ok... whatever... "DalePres"
              > >
              > > When you place files on your PC, are they all in the root folder? or,
              > > maybe you create folders with names that means something, like Pictures
              > > for example, and place all pictures there? Maybe another folder called
              > > Source for source code? Why not place all of your pictures in your[/color][/color]
              Source[color=blue][color=green]
              > > folder? Ah heck... just dump everything in the root so you won't have to
              > > worry which "topic" your storing your files in...
              > >
              > > Now... tell me how newsgroups are different than folders on your PC...[/color][/color]
              do[color=blue][color=green]
              > > you have VB5/6 code mixed with .Net code? Maybe C# code mixed with VB#
              > > code?
              > >
              > > In your file cabinet, tax papers mixed with your kids drawings? If not,
              > > WHY? If keeping things where they belong is considered a "police action"
              > > by you then.... might was well just toss everything in the same
              > > folder/drawer/whatever.
              > >
              > > Yeah... maybe we should just ignore those that post to "off topic"[/color][/color]
              groups[color=blue][color=green]
              > > so they'll sit and wonder "why is no one answering my questions".. that
              > > would surely be easier than attempting to point them in the right
              > > direction just to have some yahoo call you the "on topic police".
              > >
              > > --
              > > Ken Halter - MS-MVP-VB - http://www.vbsight.com
              > > Please keep all discussions in the groups..
              > >[/color]
              >
              >[/color]


              Comment

              • Björn Holmgren

                #8
                Re: Windows Authentication Problem

                "DalePres" <don-t-spa-m-me@lea-ve-me-a-lone--.com> wrote in message
                news:uXL2TwMCFH A.1392@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
                > This is from the Microsoft MVP site.
                >
                > "For more than 11 years, the Microsoft MVP Program has recognized credible
                > experts in technical communities who share a common passion for technology
                > and a demonstrated willingness to share their experience with others."
                >
                > Notice that nowhere in there does it say MVP is awarded for service in
                > patrolling the hallways of the Microsoft Newsgroups ensuring that everyone
                > follows the rules. Instead, it says that you were awarded that title for
                > technical expertise and a willingness to share that expertise. Oh[/color]
                well....[color=blue]
                > It isn't the first time Microsoft made a mistake, is it?[/color]


                Are you saying Ken should have answered the question instead of telling the
                OP he/she was in the wrong group *just* because he's a MVP? Maybe you didn't
                notice, but MVP's come in different flavours. Ken is a MVP-VB, not
                MVP-ASP.NET or whatever. And - as I said in my previous post - if someone
                (incorrectly) believes this to be a .NET group and comes here looking for
                answers, pointing him/her in the right direction is not "patrolling ". It's
                called "helping".

                If you take some time to browse through the different microsoft.publi c.vb.*
                newsgroups it will become quite evident that Ken indeed posesses a great
                deal of expertise, and *is* willing to share. Search for Ken Halter in
                Google Groups. Maybe have a look at his website. Does that seem like someone
                who isn't willing to share?
                [color=blue]
                > Have a nice life... And next time, you might consider a friendlier[/color]
                approach.[color=blue]
                > Or less caffeine.[/color]

                Ken's approach has been nothing but friendly. You on the other hand...
                BTW, I haven't seen the OP complain about the response. If he/she doesn't
                have a problem with it, you sure shouldn't.

                I would also like to encourage you to read up on some newsgroup etiquette.

                --
                Björn Holmgren



                Comment

                • Patrick Olurotimi Ige

                  #9
                  Re: Windows Authentication Problem

                  Did DalePres advice worked for you?
                  Patrick


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                  • DalePres

                    #10
                    Re: Windows Authentication Problem

                    His reply to the original post was arrogant rude. Had he just suggested the
                    proper group, I wouldn't have even noticed his post. Instead of a courteous
                    and helpful pointer, he chose to lord over the OP. And what's so funny
                    about the whole thing, I read Ken's reply in the C# newsgroup. So Ken,
                    while in the act of criticizing the newsgroup etiquette of others, made a
                    blunder of his own by posting across newsgroups.

                    And that is just the kind of arrogance I was responding to. It is ok for
                    him to be less than perfect, but all of us lesser human beings had better be
                    perfect or stay out of the lord's court. He was wrong. He was out of line.
                    And he was arrogant. That's all there is to it.



                    "Björn Holmgren" <bjohol@hotmail .com> wrote in message
                    news:ZB_Ld.1956 4$Of5.13069@nnt pserver.swip.ne t...[color=blue]
                    > "DalePres" <don-t-spa-m-me@lea-ve-me-a-lone--.com> wrote in message
                    > news:uXL2TwMCFH A.1392@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=green]
                    >> This is from the Microsoft MVP site.
                    >>
                    >> "For more than 11 years, the Microsoft MVP Program has recognized
                    >> credible
                    >> experts in technical communities who share a common passion for
                    >> technology
                    >> and a demonstrated willingness to share their experience with others."
                    >>
                    >> Notice that nowhere in there does it say MVP is awarded for service in
                    >> patrolling the hallways of the Microsoft Newsgroups ensuring that
                    >> everyone
                    >> follows the rules. Instead, it says that you were awarded that title for
                    >> technical expertise and a willingness to share that expertise. Oh[/color]
                    > well....[color=green]
                    >> It isn't the first time Microsoft made a mistake, is it?[/color]
                    >
                    >
                    > Are you saying Ken should have answered the question instead of telling
                    > the
                    > OP he/she was in the wrong group *just* because he's a MVP? Maybe you
                    > didn't
                    > notice, but MVP's come in different flavours. Ken is a MVP-VB, not
                    > MVP-ASP.NET or whatever. And - as I said in my previous post - if someone
                    > (incorrectly) believes this to be a .NET group and comes here looking for
                    > answers, pointing him/her in the right direction is not "patrolling ". It's
                    > called "helping".
                    >
                    > If you take some time to browse through the different
                    > microsoft.publi c.vb.*
                    > newsgroups it will become quite evident that Ken indeed posesses a great
                    > deal of expertise, and *is* willing to share. Search for Ken Halter in
                    > Google Groups. Maybe have a look at his website. Does that seem like
                    > someone
                    > who isn't willing to share?
                    >[color=green]
                    >> Have a nice life... And next time, you might consider a friendlier[/color]
                    > approach.[color=green]
                    >> Or less caffeine.[/color]
                    >
                    > Ken's approach has been nothing but friendly. You on the other hand...
                    > BTW, I haven't seen the OP complain about the response. If he/she doesn't
                    > have a problem with it, you sure shouldn't.
                    >
                    > I would also like to encourage you to read up on some newsgroup etiquette.
                    >
                    > --
                    > Björn Holmgren
                    >
                    >
                    >[/color]


                    Comment

                    • DalePres

                      #11
                      Re: Windows Authentication Problem

                      Pardon me. I meant that I saw Ken's reply on the ASP.Net newsgroup. But
                      either way, Ken was cross-posting while criticizing the OP about
                      cross-posting. Kinda makes you say ahhhh.

                      DalePres


                      "DalePres" <don-t-spa-m-me@lea-ve-me-a-lone--.com> wrote in message
                      news:e6BnxnYCFH A.560@TK2MSFTNG P15.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
                      > His reply to the original post was arrogant rude. Had he just suggested
                      > the proper group, I wouldn't have even noticed his post. Instead of a
                      > courteous and helpful pointer, he chose to lord over the OP. And what's
                      > so funny about the whole thing, I read Ken's reply in the C# newsgroup.
                      > So Ken, while in the act of criticizing the newsgroup etiquette of others,
                      > made a blunder of his own by posting across newsgroups.
                      >
                      > And that is just the kind of arrogance I was responding to. It is ok for
                      > him to be less than perfect, but all of us lesser human beings had better
                      > be perfect or stay out of the lord's court. He was wrong. He was out of
                      > line. And he was arrogant. That's all there is to it.
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > "Björn Holmgren" <bjohol@hotmail .com> wrote in message
                      > news:ZB_Ld.1956 4$Of5.13069@nnt pserver.swip.ne t...[color=green]
                      >> "DalePres" <don-t-spa-m-me@lea-ve-me-a-lone--.com> wrote in message
                      >> news:uXL2TwMCFH A.1392@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
                      >>> This is from the Microsoft MVP site.
                      >>>
                      >>> "For more than 11 years, the Microsoft MVP Program has recognized
                      >>> credible
                      >>> experts in technical communities who share a common passion for
                      >>> technology
                      >>> and a demonstrated willingness to share their experience with others."
                      >>>
                      >>> Notice that nowhere in there does it say MVP is awarded for service in
                      >>> patrolling the hallways of the Microsoft Newsgroups ensuring that
                      >>> everyone
                      >>> follows the rules. Instead, it says that you were awarded that title
                      >>> for
                      >>> technical expertise and a willingness to share that expertise. Oh[/color]
                      >> well....[color=darkred]
                      >>> It isn't the first time Microsoft made a mistake, is it?[/color]
                      >>
                      >>
                      >> Are you saying Ken should have answered the question instead of telling
                      >> the
                      >> OP he/she was in the wrong group *just* because he's a MVP? Maybe you
                      >> didn't
                      >> notice, but MVP's come in different flavours. Ken is a MVP-VB, not
                      >> MVP-ASP.NET or whatever. And - as I said in my previous post - if someone
                      >> (incorrectly) believes this to be a .NET group and comes here looking for
                      >> answers, pointing him/her in the right direction is not "patrolling ".
                      >> It's
                      >> called "helping".
                      >>
                      >> If you take some time to browse through the different
                      >> microsoft.publi c.vb.*
                      >> newsgroups it will become quite evident that Ken indeed posesses a great
                      >> deal of expertise, and *is* willing to share. Search for Ken Halter in
                      >> Google Groups. Maybe have a look at his website. Does that seem like
                      >> someone
                      >> who isn't willing to share?
                      >>[color=darkred]
                      >>> Have a nice life... And next time, you might consider a friendlier[/color]
                      >> approach.[color=darkred]
                      >>> Or less caffeine.[/color]
                      >>
                      >> Ken's approach has been nothing but friendly. You on the other hand...
                      >> BTW, I haven't seen the OP complain about the response. If he/she doesn't
                      >> have a problem with it, you sure shouldn't.
                      >>
                      >> I would also like to encourage you to read up on some newsgroup
                      >> etiquette.
                      >>
                      >> --
                      >> Björn Holmgren
                      >>
                      >>
                      >>[/color]
                      >
                      >[/color]


                      Comment

                      • Björn Holmgren

                        #12
                        Re: Windows Authentication Problem

                        Read again! He didn't criticize the crosspost, but the OT post. To be fair,
                        it wasn't even criticism at all, just information. I fail to see the
                        rudeness in Ken's reply, but maybe you could tell us which part you found so
                        offensive. At this point, it seems you are *slightly* overreacting. Maybe
                        *you* should cut back on the caffeine ;-)

                        Have a good day!

                        --
                        Björn Holmgren


                        "DalePres" <don-t-spa-m-me@lea-ve-me-a-lone--.com> wrote in message
                        news:eQCLavYCFH A.960@TK2MSFTNG P09.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
                        > Pardon me. I meant that I saw Ken's reply on the ASP.Net newsgroup. But
                        > either way, Ken was cross-posting while criticizing the OP about
                        > cross-posting. Kinda makes you say ahhhh.
                        >
                        > DalePres
                        >
                        >
                        > "DalePres" <don-t-spa-m-me@lea-ve-me-a-lone--.com> wrote in message
                        > news:e6BnxnYCFH A.560@TK2MSFTNG P15.phx.gbl...[color=green]
                        > > His reply to the original post was arrogant rude. Had he just suggested
                        > > the proper group, I wouldn't have even noticed his post. Instead of a
                        > > courteous and helpful pointer, he chose to lord over the OP. And what's
                        > > so funny about the whole thing, I read Ken's reply in the C# newsgroup.
                        > > So Ken, while in the act of criticizing the newsgroup etiquette of[/color][/color]
                        others,[color=blue][color=green]
                        > > made a blunder of his own by posting across newsgroups.
                        > >
                        > > And that is just the kind of arrogance I was responding to. It is ok[/color][/color]
                        for[color=blue][color=green]
                        > > him to be less than perfect, but all of us lesser human beings had[/color][/color]
                        better[color=blue][color=green]
                        > > be perfect or stay out of the lord's court. He was wrong. He was out[/color][/color]
                        of[color=blue][color=green]
                        > > line. And he was arrogant. That's all there is to it.
                        > >
                        > >
                        > >
                        > > "Björn Holmgren" <bjohol@hotmail .com> wrote in message
                        > > news:ZB_Ld.1956 4$Of5.13069@nnt pserver.swip.ne t...[color=darkred]
                        > >> "DalePres" <don-t-spa-m-me@lea-ve-me-a-lone--.com> wrote in message
                        > >> news:uXL2TwMCFH A.1392@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...
                        > >>> This is from the Microsoft MVP site.
                        > >>>
                        > >>> "For more than 11 years, the Microsoft MVP Program has recognized
                        > >>> credible
                        > >>> experts in technical communities who share a common passion for
                        > >>> technology
                        > >>> and a demonstrated willingness to share their experience with others."
                        > >>>
                        > >>> Notice that nowhere in there does it say MVP is awarded for service in
                        > >>> patrolling the hallways of the Microsoft Newsgroups ensuring that
                        > >>> everyone
                        > >>> follows the rules. Instead, it says that you were awarded that title
                        > >>> for
                        > >>> technical expertise and a willingness to share that expertise. Oh
                        > >> well....
                        > >>> It isn't the first time Microsoft made a mistake, is it?
                        > >>
                        > >>
                        > >> Are you saying Ken should have answered the question instead of telling
                        > >> the
                        > >> OP he/she was in the wrong group *just* because he's a MVP? Maybe you
                        > >> didn't
                        > >> notice, but MVP's come in different flavours. Ken is a MVP-VB, not
                        > >> MVP-ASP.NET or whatever. And - as I said in my previous post - if[/color][/color][/color]
                        someone[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
                        > >> (incorrectly) believes this to be a .NET group and comes here looking[/color][/color][/color]
                        for[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
                        > >> answers, pointing him/her in the right direction is not "patrolling ".
                        > >> It's
                        > >> called "helping".
                        > >>
                        > >> If you take some time to browse through the different
                        > >> microsoft.publi c.vb.*
                        > >> newsgroups it will become quite evident that Ken indeed posesses a[/color][/color][/color]
                        great[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
                        > >> deal of expertise, and *is* willing to share. Search for Ken Halter in
                        > >> Google Groups. Maybe have a look at his website. Does that seem like
                        > >> someone
                        > >> who isn't willing to share?
                        > >>
                        > >>> Have a nice life... And next time, you might consider a friendlier
                        > >> approach.
                        > >>> Or less caffeine.
                        > >>
                        > >> Ken's approach has been nothing but friendly. You on the other hand...
                        > >> BTW, I haven't seen the OP complain about the response. If he/she[/color][/color][/color]
                        doesn't[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
                        > >> have a problem with it, you sure shouldn't.
                        > >>
                        > >> I would also like to encourage you to read up on some newsgroup
                        > >> etiquette.
                        > >>
                        > >> --
                        > >> Björn Holmgren
                        > >>
                        > >>
                        > >>[/color]
                        > >
                        > >[/color]
                        >
                        >[/color]


                        Comment

                        • DalePres

                          #13
                          Re: Windows Authentication Problem

                          In either case, cross posting or off-topic posting, they're both less than
                          ideal newsgroup protocol (as is the continuance of this topic at all).
                          Still, Ken violated the best standards of newsgroup behavior while
                          criticizing another of violating newsgroup behavior. Ken could have said,
                          "Perhaps you could try your question in the ASP.Net groups" but instead he
                          made a snide post.

                          Secondly, the original poster's email address was included in his post, but
                          rather than a private helpful hint about newsgroup protocol, Ken responded
                          very publicly, and across groups. When you criticize publicly, you should
                          expect a public response.

                          And when I first posted back about Ken's response, I posted it only in the
                          VB group, where Ken's reply was at least kind of on-topic and Ken added the
                          ASP.Net group back in when he replied to me. Clearly Ken likes to criticize
                          in publicly as possible but just doesn't want to hear it back.

                          I don't think I over-reacted any more than Ken did, though I am sure that it
                          isn't worth all it has become. That said, it doesn't change the facts. I
                          am willing to drop the topic, but I am not willing to accept that Ken was
                          any less wrong than the person he so vocally criticized.

                          Dale Preston

                          "Björn Holmgren" <bjohol@hotmail .com> wrote in message
                          news:b0kMd.1987 4$Of5.12920@nnt pserver.swip.ne t...[color=blue]
                          > Read again! He didn't criticize the crosspost, but the OT post. To be
                          > fair,
                          > it wasn't even criticism at all, just information. I fail to see the
                          > rudeness in Ken's reply, but maybe you could tell us which part you found
                          > so
                          > offensive. At this point, it seems you are *slightly* overreacting. Maybe
                          > *you* should cut back on the caffeine ;-)
                          >
                          > Have a good day!
                          >
                          > --
                          > Björn Holmgren
                          >
                          >
                          > "DalePres" <don-t-spa-m-me@lea-ve-me-a-lone--.com> wrote in message
                          > news:eQCLavYCFH A.960@TK2MSFTNG P09.phx.gbl...[color=green]
                          >> Pardon me. I meant that I saw Ken's reply on the ASP.Net newsgroup. But
                          >> either way, Ken was cross-posting while criticizing the OP about
                          >> cross-posting. Kinda makes you say ahhhh.
                          >>
                          >> DalePres
                          >>
                          >>
                          >> "DalePres" <don-t-spa-m-me@lea-ve-me-a-lone--.com> wrote in message
                          >> news:e6BnxnYCFH A.560@TK2MSFTNG P15.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
                          >> > His reply to the original post was arrogant rude. Had he just
                          >> > suggested
                          >> > the proper group, I wouldn't have even noticed his post. Instead of a
                          >> > courteous and helpful pointer, he chose to lord over the OP. And
                          >> > what's
                          >> > so funny about the whole thing, I read Ken's reply in the C# newsgroup.
                          >> > So Ken, while in the act of criticizing the newsgroup etiquette of[/color][/color]
                          > others,[color=green][color=darkred]
                          >> > made a blunder of his own by posting across newsgroups.
                          >> >
                          >> > And that is just the kind of arrogance I was responding to. It is ok[/color][/color]
                          > for[color=green][color=darkred]
                          >> > him to be less than perfect, but all of us lesser human beings had[/color][/color]
                          > better[color=green][color=darkred]
                          >> > be perfect or stay out of the lord's court. He was wrong. He was out[/color][/color]
                          > of[color=green][color=darkred]
                          >> > line. And he was arrogant. That's all there is to it.
                          >> >
                          >> >
                          >> >
                          >> > "Björn Holmgren" <bjohol@hotmail .com> wrote in message
                          >> > news:ZB_Ld.1956 4$Of5.13069@nnt pserver.swip.ne t...
                          >> >> "DalePres" <don-t-spa-m-me@lea-ve-me-a-lone--.com> wrote in message
                          >> >> news:uXL2TwMCFH A.1392@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...
                          >> >>> This is from the Microsoft MVP site.
                          >> >>>
                          >> >>> "For more than 11 years, the Microsoft MVP Program has recognized
                          >> >>> credible
                          >> >>> experts in technical communities who share a common passion for
                          >> >>> technology
                          >> >>> and a demonstrated willingness to share their experience with
                          >> >>> others."
                          >> >>>
                          >> >>> Notice that nowhere in there does it say MVP is awarded for service
                          >> >>> in
                          >> >>> patrolling the hallways of the Microsoft Newsgroups ensuring that
                          >> >>> everyone
                          >> >>> follows the rules. Instead, it says that you were awarded that title
                          >> >>> for
                          >> >>> technical expertise and a willingness to share that expertise. Oh
                          >> >> well....
                          >> >>> It isn't the first time Microsoft made a mistake, is it?
                          >> >>
                          >> >>
                          >> >> Are you saying Ken should have answered the question instead of
                          >> >> telling
                          >> >> the
                          >> >> OP he/she was in the wrong group *just* because he's a MVP? Maybe you
                          >> >> didn't
                          >> >> notice, but MVP's come in different flavours. Ken is a MVP-VB, not
                          >> >> MVP-ASP.NET or whatever. And - as I said in my previous post - if[/color][/color]
                          > someone[color=green][color=darkred]
                          >> >> (incorrectly) believes this to be a .NET group and comes here looking[/color][/color]
                          > for[color=green][color=darkred]
                          >> >> answers, pointing him/her in the right direction is not "patrolling ".
                          >> >> It's
                          >> >> called "helping".
                          >> >>
                          >> >> If you take some time to browse through the different
                          >> >> microsoft.publi c.vb.*
                          >> >> newsgroups it will become quite evident that Ken indeed posesses a[/color][/color]
                          > great[color=green][color=darkred]
                          >> >> deal of expertise, and *is* willing to share. Search for Ken Halter in
                          >> >> Google Groups. Maybe have a look at his website. Does that seem like
                          >> >> someone
                          >> >> who isn't willing to share?
                          >> >>
                          >> >>> Have a nice life... And next time, you might consider a friendlier
                          >> >> approach.
                          >> >>> Or less caffeine.
                          >> >>
                          >> >> Ken's approach has been nothing but friendly. You on the other hand...
                          >> >> BTW, I haven't seen the OP complain about the response. If he/she[/color][/color]
                          > doesn't[color=green][color=darkred]
                          >> >> have a problem with it, you sure shouldn't.
                          >> >>
                          >> >> I would also like to encourage you to read up on some newsgroup
                          >> >> etiquette.
                          >> >>
                          >> >> --
                          >> >> Björn Holmgren
                          >> >>
                          >> >>
                          >> >>
                          >> >
                          >> >[/color]
                          >>
                          >>[/color]
                          >
                          >[/color]


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                          • chuckdfoster

                            #14
                            Re: Windows Authentication Problem

                            My problem was that I was removing the 'Everyone' group. This removed my
                            ASPNET user which is needed to run the asp code. I added ASPNET to the
                            users and everything works fine.

                            "Patrick Olurotimi Ige" <ige@iprimus.co m.au> wrote in message
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                            > Did DalePres advice worked for you?
                            > Patrick
                            >
                            >
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