Norton blocks ASP.NET mails!

**Marina** · Nov 18 '05, 02:37 PM

Re: Norton blocks ASP.NET mails!

It sounds like you need to ask Norton, as it is their security software
that is the problem.

"Ammar" <ammar.majeed@c omhem.se> wrote in message
news:BJCGc.9799 5$dP1.326664@ne wsc.telia.net.. .[color=blue]
> Hi!
> I am running IIS 5 on windowsXP proffesional with norton internet security
> proffesional 2004. I have been trying to make an ASP.NET page that sends a
> report as an e mail to the webmaster of the site when a user subscribes in
> the site. The page runs well, but the e mail is never delivered!
> After long hours of search i found that turning norton Internet securty[/color]
off[color=blue]
> solves the whole probelm!
> But then of course, i dont want to run my IIS without norton's protection,[/color]
i[color=blue]
> tried all possible combinations and alowed some program through the
> firewalls, turned off the script blocking property of norton but the e[/color]
mail[color=blue]
> dosent get through!
> now i am really fed up! could anyone please help me with this??
> Thanks
> Ammar
>
>[/color]

**darrel** · Nov 18 '05, 02:37 PM

Re: Norton blocks ASP.NET mails!

> now i am really fed up! could anyone please help me with this??

This is norton running on the server, correct?

If so, I've never had good luck with Norton running on an IIS server. They
just don't get along.

My hunch would be that norton is looking for services on the computer that
are sending emails and blocking them. See if you can allow asp.net to send
emails within Norton's preferences.

-Darrel

**Ammar** · Nov 18 '05, 02:37 PM

Re: Norton blocks ASP.NET mails!

Yes the Norton is running on IIS server.
Believe me i tried all the possible adjustments in Norton firewalls and
antivirus without any luck!

"darrel" <notreal@hotmai l.com> wrote in message
news:uT4reG5YEH A.3536@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl...[color=blue][color=green]
> > now i am really fed up! could anyone please help me with this??[/color]
>
> This is norton running on the server, correct?
>
> If so, I've never had good luck with Norton running on an IIS server. They
> just don't get along.
>
> My hunch would be that norton is looking for services on the computer that
> are sending emails and blocking them. See if you can allow asp.net to send
> emails within Norton's preferences.
>
> -Darrel
>
>[/color]

**Ammar** · Nov 18 '05, 02:37 PM

Re: Norton blocks ASP.NET mails!

The only possible solution, asides from turning off norton internet
security, is to allow full access to the IIS in the firewalls properties,
but i am not sure what threat this could be to my computer, i mean everyone
accessing ym web site will have total access to the IIS services, dose
anyonw know if this is safe or not?
thanks again

"Ammar" <ammar.majeed@c omhem.se> wrote in message
news:BJCGc.9799 5$dP1.326664@ne wsc.telia.net.. .[color=blue]
> Hi!
> I am running IIS 5 on windowsXP proffesional with norton internet security
> proffesional 2004. I have been trying to make an ASP.NET page that sends a
> report as an e mail to the webmaster of the site when a user subscribes in
> the site. The page runs well, but the e mail is never delivered!
> After long hours of search i found that turning norton Internet securty[/color]
off[color=blue]
> solves the whole probelm!
> But then of course, i dont want to run my IIS without norton's protection,[/color]
i[color=blue]
> tried all possible combinations and alowed some program through the
> firewalls, turned off the script blocking property of norton but the e[/color]
mail[color=blue]
> dosent get through!
> now i am really fed up! could anyone please help me with this??
> Thanks
> Ammar
>
>[/color]

**darrel** · Nov 18 '05, 02:37 PM

Re: Norton blocks ASP.NET mails!

> anyonw know if this is safe or not?

Around here, we like the phrase 'a secure web server is a useless web
server' ;o)

Unfortunately, at least for us, the problems Norton caused far outweighed
any added security.

-Darrel

**Kevin Spencer** · Nov 18 '05, 02:37 PM

Re: Norton blocks ASP.NET mails!

Hi Ammar,

There is a BIG difference between Norton Internet Security and Norton
AntiVirus, even though Norton AntiVirus is packaged with Norton Internet
Security. Neither of them is particularly good for use on an Internet
server, and neither of them, IMHO, is your best bet for anti-virus and
security, as Symantec loves to force you to install a bunch of separate
products when you install either one of them, and some of those products are
quite Machiavellian in how they treat you, the Administrator of your system,
and difficult to disable. In your case, if you are hoping to use Norton
AntiVirus, which doesn't try to control your email services, you certainly
do NOT need Norton Internet Security. But the only way to install AntiVirus
without Norton Internet Security is to buy it separately, not as part of
Norton Internet Security. Even then, you should go back and make sure that
it isn't doing something you don't want it to do, as it will.

--
HTH,
Kevin Spencer
..Net Developer
Microsoft MVP
Big things are made up
of lots of little things.

"Ammar" <ammar.majeed@c omhem.se> wrote in message
news:iHDGc.9799 7$dP1.326503@ne wsc.telia.net.. .[color=blue]
> Yes the Norton is running on IIS server.
> Believe me i tried all the possible adjustments in Norton firewalls and
> antivirus without any luck!
>
>
> "darrel" <notreal@hotmai l.com> wrote in message
> news:uT4reG5YEH A.3536@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl...[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > now i am really fed up! could anyone please help me with this??[/color]
> >
> > This is norton running on the server, correct?
> >
> > If so, I've never had good luck with Norton running on an IIS server.[/color][/color]
They[color=blue][color=green]
> > just don't get along.
> >
> > My hunch would be that norton is looking for services on the computer[/color][/color]
that[color=blue][color=green]
> > are sending emails and blocking them. See if you can allow asp.net to[/color][/color]
send[color=blue][color=green]
> > emails within Norton's preferences.
> >
> > -Darrel
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

**Ammar** · Nov 18 '05, 02:37 PM

Re: Norton blocks ASP.NET mails!

Thank you for your advice Kevin.
in that case, what would be your best choice of an antivirus and firewall
software, if you dont recomment norton??
thanks again

"Kevin Spencer" <kspencer@takem pis.com> wrote in message
news:OrJU8p5YEH A.3892@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Hi Ammar,
>
> There is a BIG difference between Norton Internet Security and Norton
> AntiVirus, even though Norton AntiVirus is packaged with Norton Internet
> Security. Neither of them is particularly good for use on an Internet
> server, and neither of them, IMHO, is your best bet for anti-virus and
> security, as Symantec loves to force you to install a bunch of separate
> products when you install either one of them, and some of those products[/color]
are[color=blue]
> quite Machiavellian in how they treat you, the Administrator of your[/color]
system,[color=blue]
> and difficult to disable. In your case, if you are hoping to use Norton
> AntiVirus, which doesn't try to control your email services, you certainly
> do NOT need Norton Internet Security. But the only way to install[/color]
AntiVirus[color=blue]
> without Norton Internet Security is to buy it separately, not as part of
> Norton Internet Security. Even then, you should go back and make sure that
> it isn't doing something you don't want it to do, as it will.
>
> --
> HTH,
> Kevin Spencer
> .Net Developer
> Microsoft MVP
> Big things are made up
> of lots of little things.
>
> "Ammar" <ammar.majeed@c omhem.se> wrote in message
> news:iHDGc.9799 7$dP1.326503@ne wsc.telia.net.. .[color=green]
> > Yes the Norton is running on IIS server.
> > Believe me i tried all the possible adjustments in Norton firewalls and
> > antivirus without any luck!
> >
> >
> > "darrel" <notreal@hotmai l.com> wrote in message
> > news:uT4reG5YEH A.3536@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> > > > now i am really fed up! could anyone please help me with this??
> > >
> > > This is norton running on the server, correct?
> > >
> > > If so, I've never had good luck with Norton running on an IIS server.[/color][/color]
> They[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > just don't get along.
> > >
> > > My hunch would be that norton is looking for services on the computer[/color][/color]
> that[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > are sending emails and blocking them. See if you can allow asp.net to[/color][/color]
> send[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > emails within Norton's preferences.
> > >
> > > -Darrel
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

**Kevin Spencer** · Nov 18 '05, 02:40 PM

Re: Norton blocks ASP.NET mails!

Good question! Any anti-virus software is going to present some problems.
For firewall protection, a professional-grade real hardware/software
firewall is your best bet if you can afford it. If not, recent versions of
Windows have software firewall protection built in, that is probably just as
good as Norton's. If you DO use Norton for Antivirus, expect to spend some
time hacking it to get only the protection you need.

--
HTH,
Kevin Spencer
..Net Developer
Microsoft MVP
Big things are made up
of lots of little things.

"Ammar" <ammar.majeed@c omhem.se> wrote in message
news:thEGc.9799 9$dP1.326510@ne wsc.telia.net.. .[color=blue]
> Thank you for your advice Kevin.
> in that case, what would be your best choice of an antivirus and firewall
> software, if you dont recomment norton??
> thanks again
>
>
> "Kevin Spencer" <kspencer@takem pis.com> wrote in message
> news:OrJU8p5YEH A.3892@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > Hi Ammar,
> >
> > There is a BIG difference between Norton Internet Security and Norton
> > AntiVirus, even though Norton AntiVirus is packaged with Norton Internet
> > Security. Neither of them is particularly good for use on an Internet
> > server, and neither of them, IMHO, is your best bet for anti-virus and
> > security, as Symantec loves to force you to install a bunch of separate
> > products when you install either one of them, and some of those products[/color]
> are[color=green]
> > quite Machiavellian in how they treat you, the Administrator of your[/color]
> system,[color=green]
> > and difficult to disable. In your case, if you are hoping to use Norton
> > AntiVirus, which doesn't try to control your email services, you[/color][/color]
certainly[color=blue][color=green]
> > do NOT need Norton Internet Security. But the only way to install[/color]
> AntiVirus[color=green]
> > without Norton Internet Security is to buy it separately, not as part of
> > Norton Internet Security. Even then, you should go back and make sure[/color][/color]
that[color=blue][color=green]
> > it isn't doing something you don't want it to do, as it will.
> >
> > --
> > HTH,
> > Kevin Spencer
> > .Net Developer
> > Microsoft MVP
> > Big things are made up
> > of lots of little things.
> >
> > "Ammar" <ammar.majeed@c omhem.se> wrote in message
> > news:iHDGc.9799 7$dP1.326503@ne wsc.telia.net.. .[color=darkred]
> > > Yes the Norton is running on IIS server.
> > > Believe me i tried all the possible adjustments in Norton firewalls[/color][/color][/color]
and[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > antivirus without any luck!
> > >
> > >
> > > "darrel" <notreal@hotmai l.com> wrote in message
> > > news:uT4reG5YEH A.3536@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > > now i am really fed up! could anyone please help me with this??
> > > >
> > > > This is norton running on the server, correct?
> > > >
> > > > If so, I've never had good luck with Norton running on an IIS[/color][/color][/color]
server.[color=blue][color=green]
> > They[color=darkred]
> > > > just don't get along.
> > > >
> > > > My hunch would be that norton is looking for services on the[/color][/color][/color]
computer[color=blue][color=green]
> > that[color=darkred]
> > > > are sending emails and blocking them. See if you can allow asp.net[/color][/color][/color]
to[color=blue][color=green]
> > send[color=darkred]
> > > > emails within Norton's preferences.
> > > >
> > > > -Darrel
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

**dotnetasp** · Feb 9 '06, 10:15 AM

Re: Norton blocks ASP.NET mails!

I seem to be having a similar problem. My webserver (IIS5) appears to
work fine and i can see all the hosted web apps through localhost &
127.0.0.1. However when i try to access any page by typing in the
server's LAN IP address it gets blocked. it also gets blocked when i
try to access the pages by any other computer on the LAN. On the web
server, I am using Norton Antivirus and a separate program for
firewalling (Zone Alarm). I have tried it with ZA disabled, also with
ZA enabled I checked that all calls to IIS get through the firewall
which means that ZA isn't blocking anything. I can also see that calls
to the webserver from other computers in the LAN also get through the
firewall, which means that the router or network card aren't blocking
anything either. I have had a sneaky feeling it might be Norton
Antivirus and after reading this thread i'm gonna have to run a few
tests. By the way I have always heared that Norton didn't work well
with internet firewalls but never had any problems until now... Will
get back to you all, thanks for the advice.

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**dotnetasp** · Feb 13 '06, 02:15 PM

Re: Norton blocks ASP.NET mails!

ok i did a little research on it and here's what i found out. Some
antivirus programs inc. Norton & McAffe run a utility called script
blocking. In theory this is a good piece of protection to have, however
cript blocking prevents calls to the File System Object (FSO). THat
means that if you have script blocking enabled on your antivirus then
any program on your PC that places calls to the FSO will mulfunction.
Unfortunately for IIS users, FSO is an integral part of IIS. Note that,
at least on Norton antivirus, script blocking will run even if you
deactivate the antivirus program altogether!!! If you want to stop
script blocking you have to explicitly disable it from OPtions (if you
do that there is no need to deactive the whole program). So this is a
trade-off situation, where you have to decide whether to compromise
security by disabling script blocking and let IIS function properly or
compromise your server's functionality in the name of security. The
call is yours, but I opted for less security and proper web services.

see ya

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