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  • VB Programmer

    Question: HTML char limit for aspx page???

    Is there a limit as to how big an aspx page's html can be? (number of
    characters)

    Why do I ask? I have a webform with a lot of ActiveX controls (shows up as
    OBJECT in html). When I place like 35 of these objects the form shows up
    BLANK in a web browser. When I remove a few (ANY few) I can see the page.
    Any ideas?

    Thanks.


  • John Saunders

    #2
    Re: Question: HTML char limit for aspx page???

    What does View Source show you?
    --
    John Saunders
    Internet Engineer
    john.saunders@s urfcontrol.com

    "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
    news:eMnA0b%23a DHA.2668@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. ..[color=blue]
    > FYI:
    >
    > It shows up FINE in the Design View. Also, I copied/pasted the text in[/color]
    Word[color=blue]
    > and it came out to 616,242 char (w/spaces) and 526,708 (without).
    >
    > Please assist. Thanks!
    >
    > "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
    > news:efoXFY%23a DHA.2932@tk2msf tngp13.phx.gbl. ..[color=green]
    > > Is there a limit as to how big an aspx page's html can be? (number of
    > > characters)
    > >
    > > Why do I ask? I have a webform with a lot of ActiveX controls (shows up[/color][/color]
    as[color=blue][color=green]
    > > OBJECT in html). When I place like 35 of these objects the form shows[/color][/color]
    up[color=blue][color=green]
    > > BLANK in a web browser. When I remove a few (ANY few) I can see the[/color][/color]
    page.[color=blue][color=green]
    > > Any ideas?
    > >
    > > Thanks.
    > >
    > >[/color]
    >
    >[/color]


    Comment

    • VB Programmer

      #3
      Re: Question: HTML char limit for aspx page???

      That's the interesting thing. It has some scripting stuff at the beginning
      but NOTHING IN THE BODY. See below...

      <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
      <HTML>
      <HEAD>
      <title>OfficeVi ewDc</title>
      <meta content="Micros oft Visual Studio.NET 7.0" name="GENERATOR ">
      <meta content="Visual Basic 7.0" name="CODE_LANG UAGE">
      <meta content="JavaSc ript" name="vs_defaul tClientScript">
      <meta content="http://schemas.microso ft.com/intellisense/ie5"
      name="vs_target Schema">
      </HEAD>
      <body ms_positioning= "GridLayout ">
      <form name="Form1" method="post" action="OfficeV iewDc.aspx" id="Form1">
      <input type="hidden" name="__EVENTTA RGET" value="" />
      <input type="hidden" name="__EVENTAR GUMENT" value="" />
      <input type="hidden" name="__VIEWSTA TE" value="dDw2Mzkx ODYzMz..." />

      <script language="JavaS cript">
      <!--

      function SymError()
      {
      return true;
      }

      window.onerror = SymError;

      var SymRealWinOpen = window.open;

      function SymWinOpen(url, name, attributes)
      {
      return (new Object());
      }

      window.open = SymWinOpen;

      //-->
      </script>

      <script language="javas cript">
      <!--
      function __doPostBack(ev entTarget, eventArgument) {
      var theform;
      if (window.navigat or.appName.toLo werCase().index Of("netscape") > -1) {
      theform = document.forms["Form1"];
      }
      else {
      theform = document.Form1;
      }
      theform.__EVENT TARGET.value = eventTarget.spl it("$").join(": ");
      theform.__EVENT ARGUMENT.value = eventArgument;
      theform.submit( );
      }
      // -->
      </script>

      *************** ***

      "John Saunders" <john.saunders@ surfcontrol.com > wrote in message
      news:euBOLB$aDH A.2344@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
      > What does View Source show you?
      > --
      > John Saunders
      > Internet Engineer
      > john.saunders@s urfcontrol.com
      >
      > "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
      > news:eMnA0b%23a DHA.2668@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. ..[color=green]
      > > FYI:
      > >
      > > It shows up FINE in the Design View. Also, I copied/pasted the text in[/color]
      > Word[color=green]
      > > and it came out to 616,242 char (w/spaces) and 526,708 (without).
      > >
      > > Please assist. Thanks!
      > >
      > > "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
      > > news:efoXFY%23a DHA.2932@tk2msf tngp13.phx.gbl. ..[color=darkred]
      > > > Is there a limit as to how big an aspx page's html can be? (number of
      > > > characters)
      > > >
      > > > Why do I ask? I have a webform with a lot of ActiveX controls (shows[/color][/color][/color]
      up[color=blue]
      > as[color=green][color=darkred]
      > > > OBJECT in html). When I place like 35 of these objects the form shows[/color][/color]
      > up[color=green][color=darkred]
      > > > BLANK in a web browser. When I remove a few (ANY few) I can see the[/color][/color]
      > page.[color=green][color=darkred]
      > > > Any ideas?
      > > >
      > > > Thanks.
      > > >
      > > >[/color]
      > >
      > >[/color]
      >
      >[/color]


      Comment

      • John Saunders

        #4
        Re: Question: HTML char limit for aspx page???

        Ok, how about replacing one of the <object /> elements with the same number
        of characters in a <div> or something. That will tell you whether it's a
        question of the size of HTML or the number of ActiveX controls.
        --
        John Saunders
        Internet Engineer
        john.saunders@s urfcontrol.com

        "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
        news:%238jthJ$a DHA.4020@tk2msf tngp13.phx.gbl. ..[color=blue]
        > That's the interesting thing. It has some scripting stuff at the[/color]
        beginning[color=blue]
        > but NOTHING IN THE BODY. See below...
        >
        > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
        > <HTML>
        > <HEAD>
        > <title>OfficeVi ewDc</title>
        > <meta content="Micros oft Visual Studio.NET 7.0" name="GENERATOR ">
        > <meta content="Visual Basic 7.0" name="CODE_LANG UAGE">
        > <meta content="JavaSc ript" name="vs_defaul tClientScript">
        > <meta content="http://schemas.microso ft.com/intellisense/ie5"
        > name="vs_target Schema">
        > </HEAD>
        > <body ms_positioning= "GridLayout ">
        > <form name="Form1" method="post" action="OfficeV iewDc.aspx" id="Form1">
        > <input type="hidden" name="__EVENTTA RGET" value="" />
        > <input type="hidden" name="__EVENTAR GUMENT" value="" />
        > <input type="hidden" name="__VIEWSTA TE" value="dDw2Mzkx ODYzMz..." />
        >
        > <script language="JavaS cript">
        > <!--
        >
        > function SymError()
        > {
        > return true;
        > }
        >
        > window.onerror = SymError;
        >
        > var SymRealWinOpen = window.open;
        >
        > function SymWinOpen(url, name, attributes)
        > {
        > return (new Object());
        > }
        >
        > window.open = SymWinOpen;
        >
        > //-->
        > </script>
        >
        > <script language="javas cript">
        > <!--
        > function __doPostBack(ev entTarget, eventArgument) {
        > var theform;
        > if (window.navigat or.appName.toLo werCase().index Of("netscape") > -1) {
        > theform = document.forms["Form1"];
        > }
        > else {
        > theform = document.Form1;
        > }
        > theform.__EVENT TARGET.value = eventTarget.spl it("$").join(": ");
        > theform.__EVENT ARGUMENT.value = eventArgument;
        > theform.submit( );
        > }
        > // -->
        > </script>
        >
        > *************** ***
        >
        > "John Saunders" <john.saunders@ surfcontrol.com > wrote in message
        > news:euBOLB$aDH A.2344@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=green]
        > > What does View Source show you?
        > > --
        > > John Saunders
        > > Internet Engineer
        > > john.saunders@s urfcontrol.com
        > >
        > > "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
        > > news:eMnA0b%23a DHA.2668@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. ..[color=darkred]
        > > > FYI:
        > > >
        > > > It shows up FINE in the Design View. Also, I copied/pasted the text[/color][/color][/color]
        in[color=blue][color=green]
        > > Word[color=darkred]
        > > > and it came out to 616,242 char (w/spaces) and 526,708 (without).
        > > >
        > > > Please assist. Thanks!
        > > >
        > > > "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
        > > > news:efoXFY%23a DHA.2932@tk2msf tngp13.phx.gbl. ..
        > > > > Is there a limit as to how big an aspx page's html can be? (number[/color][/color][/color]
        of[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
        > > > > characters)
        > > > >
        > > > > Why do I ask? I have a webform with a lot of ActiveX controls (shows[/color][/color]
        > up[color=green]
        > > as[color=darkred]
        > > > > OBJECT in html). When I place like 35 of these objects the form[/color][/color][/color]
        shows[color=blue][color=green]
        > > up[color=darkred]
        > > > > BLANK in a web browser. When I remove a few (ANY few) I can see the[/color]
        > > page.[color=darkred]
        > > > > Any ideas?
        > > > >
        > > > > Thanks.
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > >
        > > >[/color]
        > >
        > >[/color]
        >
        >[/color]


        Comment

        • VB Programmer

          #5
          Re: Question: HTML char limit for aspx page???

          TEST 1: There are like 35 OBJECT tags. I kept removing them until the form
          showed up (at 25 OBJECTS). I added a bunch of 'aaaaaaa' until I was over
          660,000 characters. The form was blank at first but after about a minute
          somehow the form refreshed and everything appeared.

          TEST2: I created a brand new web form and added the same 36 (activeX)
          OBJECTS the it. Ran the webform - IT WORKED! Went to HTML view and played
          the form, it did NOT work (same results). Any ideas?


          "John Saunders" <john.saunders@ surfcontrol.com > wrote in message
          news:u04esN$aDH A.2344@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
          > Ok, how about replacing one of the <object /> elements with the same[/color]
          number[color=blue]
          > of characters in a <div> or something. That will tell you whether it's a
          > question of the size of HTML or the number of ActiveX controls.
          > --
          > John Saunders
          > Internet Engineer
          > john.saunders@s urfcontrol.com
          >
          > "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
          > news:%238jthJ$a DHA.4020@tk2msf tngp13.phx.gbl. ..[color=green]
          > > That's the interesting thing. It has some scripting stuff at the[/color]
          > beginning[color=green]
          > > but NOTHING IN THE BODY. See below...
          > >
          > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
          > > <HTML>
          > > <HEAD>
          > > <title>OfficeVi ewDc</title>
          > > <meta content="Micros oft Visual Studio.NET 7.0" name="GENERATOR ">
          > > <meta content="Visual Basic 7.0" name="CODE_LANG UAGE">
          > > <meta content="JavaSc ript" name="vs_defaul tClientScript">
          > > <meta content="http://schemas.microso ft.com/intellisense/ie5"
          > > name="vs_target Schema">
          > > </HEAD>
          > > <body ms_positioning= "GridLayout ">
          > > <form name="Form1" method="post" action="OfficeV iewDc.aspx"[/color][/color]
          id="Form1">[color=blue][color=green]
          > > <input type="hidden" name="__EVENTTA RGET" value="" />
          > > <input type="hidden" name="__EVENTAR GUMENT" value="" />
          > > <input type="hidden" name="__VIEWSTA TE" value="dDw2Mzkx ODYzMz..." />
          > >
          > > <script language="JavaS cript">
          > > <!--
          > >
          > > function SymError()
          > > {
          > > return true;
          > > }
          > >
          > > window.onerror = SymError;
          > >
          > > var SymRealWinOpen = window.open;
          > >
          > > function SymWinOpen(url, name, attributes)
          > > {
          > > return (new Object());
          > > }
          > >
          > > window.open = SymWinOpen;
          > >
          > > //-->
          > > </script>
          > >
          > > <script language="javas cript">
          > > <!--
          > > function __doPostBack(ev entTarget, eventArgument) {
          > > var theform;
          > > if (window.navigat or.appName.toLo werCase().index Of("netscape") > -1) {
          > > theform = document.forms["Form1"];
          > > }
          > > else {
          > > theform = document.Form1;
          > > }
          > > theform.__EVENT TARGET.value = eventTarget.spl it("$").join(": ");
          > > theform.__EVENT ARGUMENT.value = eventArgument;
          > > theform.submit( );
          > > }
          > > // -->
          > > </script>
          > >
          > > *************** ***
          > >
          > > "John Saunders" <john.saunders@ surfcontrol.com > wrote in message
          > > news:euBOLB$aDH A.2344@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
          > > > What does View Source show you?
          > > > --
          > > > John Saunders
          > > > Internet Engineer
          > > > john.saunders@s urfcontrol.com
          > > >
          > > > "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
          > > > news:eMnA0b%23a DHA.2668@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. ..
          > > > > FYI:
          > > > >
          > > > > It shows up FINE in the Design View. Also, I copied/pasted the text[/color][/color]
          > in[color=green][color=darkred]
          > > > Word
          > > > > and it came out to 616,242 char (w/spaces) and 526,708 (without).
          > > > >
          > > > > Please assist. Thanks!
          > > > >
          > > > > "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
          > > > > news:efoXFY%23a DHA.2932@tk2msf tngp13.phx.gbl. ..
          > > > > > Is there a limit as to how big an aspx page's html can be? (number[/color][/color]
          > of[color=green][color=darkred]
          > > > > > characters)
          > > > > >
          > > > > > Why do I ask? I have a webform with a lot of ActiveX controls[/color][/color][/color]
          (shows[color=blue][color=green]
          > > up[color=darkred]
          > > > as
          > > > > > OBJECT in html). When I place like 35 of these objects the form[/color][/color]
          > shows[color=green][color=darkred]
          > > > up
          > > > > > BLANK in a web browser. When I remove a few (ANY few) I can see[/color][/color][/color]
          the[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
          > > > page.
          > > > > > Any ideas?
          > > > > >
          > > > > > Thanks.
          > > > > >
          > > > > >
          > > > >
          > > > >
          > > >
          > > >[/color]
          > >
          > >[/color]
          >
          >[/color]


          Comment

          • VB Programmer

            #6
            Re: Question: HTML char limit for aspx page???

            Also weird, when the form shows up blank I hit refresh twice and it shows me
            this:

            0

            <OBJE1.1style=" WIDTH: 168px; HEIGHT: 40px"
            classid="clsid: D940E4C8-6079-11CE-88CB-0020AF6845F6">
            Transfer-Encoding: chunked
            <PARAM NAME="_Version" VALUE="393218">
            <PARAM NAME="_ExtentX" VALUE="4445">
            <PARAM NAME="_ExtentY" VALUE="1058">
            <PARAM NAME="_StockPro ps" VALUE="68">
            <PARAM NAME="Enabled" VALUE="-1">
            :
            :
            :
            { AND SO ON }


            Comment

            • John Saunders

              #7
              Re: Question: HTML char limit for aspx page???

              "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
              news:euApBh$aDH A.2672@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
              > TEST 1: There are like 35 OBJECT tags. I kept removing them until the[/color]
              form[color=blue]
              > showed up (at 25 OBJECTS). I added a bunch of 'aaaaaaa' until I was over
              > 660,000 characters. The form was blank at first but after about a minute
              > somehow the form refreshed and everything appeared.[/color]

              I recommend you wait a while. It could be taking IE a while to parse all
              that text. Load the page, then don't touch IE for a minute or two.
              [color=blue]
              > TEST2: I created a brand new web form and added the same 36 (activeX)
              > OBJECTS the it. Ran the webform - IT WORKED! Went to HTML view and[/color]
              played[color=blue]
              > the form, it did NOT work (same results). Any ideas?[/color]

              What do you mean "Went to HTML view and played the form"?
              --
              John Saunders
              Internet Engineer
              john.saunders@s urfcontrol.com



              Comment

              • VB Programmer

                #8
                Re: Question: HTML char limit for aspx page???

                I did wait a while and the page fully loaded. I looked at the source to
                verify.

                I "Went to HTML view" in the Designer then went to Debug/Start. It worked
                when I viewed it in Design view, but when I switched it to HTML view then
                clicked on Debug/Start it failed to load (it was blank).

                "John Saunders" <john.saunders@ surfcontrol.com > wrote in message
                news:Oa35M6AbDH A.2328@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
                > "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
                > news:euApBh$aDH A.2672@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=green]
                > > TEST 1: There are like 35 OBJECT tags. I kept removing them until the[/color]
                > form[color=green]
                > > showed up (at 25 OBJECTS). I added a bunch of 'aaaaaaa' until I was[/color][/color]
                over[color=blue][color=green]
                > > 660,000 characters. The form was blank at first but after about a[/color][/color]
                minute[color=blue][color=green]
                > > somehow the form refreshed and everything appeared.[/color]
                >
                > I recommend you wait a while. It could be taking IE a while to parse all
                > that text. Load the page, then don't touch IE for a minute or two.
                >[color=green]
                > > TEST2: I created a brand new web form and added the same 36 (activeX)
                > > OBJECTS the it. Ran the webform - IT WORKED! Went to HTML view and[/color]
                > played[color=green]
                > > the form, it did NOT work (same results). Any ideas?[/color]
                >
                > What do you mean "Went to HTML view and played the form"?
                > --
                > John Saunders
                > Internet Engineer
                > john.saunders@s urfcontrol.com
                >
                >
                >[/color]


                Comment

                • John Saunders

                  #9
                  Re: Question: HTML char limit for aspx page???

                  "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
                  news:eVrOiXBbDH A.2436@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
                  > I did wait a while and the page fully loaded. I looked at the source to
                  > verify.
                  >
                  > I "Went to HTML view" in the Designer then went to Debug/Start. It worked
                  > when I viewed it in Design view, but when I switched it to HTML view then
                  > clicked on Debug/Start it failed to load (it was blank).[/color]

                  This is the part that doesn't make any sense. Did you also save the page
                  after switching to HTML view?

                  Are there any squiggly red lines in HTML view? Any complaints when you
                  format the HTML?
                  --
                  John Saunders
                  Internet Engineer
                  john.saunders@s urfcontrol.com



                  Comment

                  • VB Programmer

                    #10
                    Re: Question: HTML char limit for aspx page???

                    I did another test.

                    Here's exactly what I did:
                    1. Create a brand new ASP.NET project with a webform1.aspx.
                    2. Placed 50 occurances of the non-managed ActiveX control on the
                    webform1.aspx. Saved it.
                    3. Debug/Start. Everything shows up fine.
                    4. Hit 'Refresh' everything is blank. (Even if I wait a while.)
                    Debug/Start again - still blank. The View Source is this...

                    **** SAMPLE START *******
                    <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
                    <HTML>
                    <HEAD>
                    <title>WebForm1 </title>
                    <meta name="GENERATOR " content="Micros oft Visual Studio .NET 7.1">
                    <meta name="CODE_LANG UAGE" content="Visual Basic .NET 7.1">
                    <meta name="vs_defaul tClientScript" content="JavaSc ript">
                    <meta name="vs_target Schema"
                    content="http://schemas.microso ft.com/intellisense/ie5">
                    </HEAD>
                    <body MS_POSITIONING= "GridLayout ">
                    <form name="Form1" method="post" action="WebForm 1.aspx" id="Form1">
                    <input type="hidden" name="__VIEWSTA TE"
                    value="dDwtMTI3 OTMzNDM4NDs7PnM Pq6yJMO85lyWW00 QfPpgusVje" />
                    ***** SAMPLE END ********

                    Hit 'Refresh' again, and I get this IN THE BROWSER....

                    ***** SAMPLE START ******
                    0

                    <OBJE1.1style=" Z-INDEX: 100; LEFT: 456px; WIDTH: 144px; POSITION: absolute;
                    TOP: 384px; HEIGHT: 38px"
                    Transfer-Encoding: chunked
                    classid="clsid: D940E4C8-6079-11CE-88CB-0020AF6845F6">
                    <PARAM NAME="_Version" VALUE="393218">
                    <PARAM NAME="_ExtentX" VALUE="3810">
                    :
                    :
                    ******* SAMPLE END *******

                    It continues to load VERY SLOWLY. FYI: My HTML (in the designer view)
                    starts off like this...

                    ******* SAMPLE START ******
                    <%@ Page Language="vb" AutoEventWireup ="false" Codebehind="Web Form1.aspx.vb"
                    Inherits="zzz2. WebForm1"%>
                    <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
                    <HTML>
                    <HEAD>
                    <title>WebForm1 </title>
                    <meta name="GENERATOR " content="Micros oft Visual Studio .NET 7.1">
                    <meta name="CODE_LANG UAGE" content="Visual Basic .NET 7.1">
                    <meta name="vs_defaul tClientScript" content="JavaSc ript">
                    <meta name="vs_target Schema"
                    content="http://schemas.microso ft.com/intellisense/ie5">
                    </HEAD>
                    <body MS_POSITIONING= "GridLayout ">
                    <form id="Form1" method="post" runat="server">
                    <OBJECT style="Z-INDEX: 100; LEFT: 456px; WIDTH: 144px; POSITION:
                    absolute; TOP: 384px; HEIGHT: 38px"
                    classid="clsid: D940E4C8-6079-11CE-88CB-0020AF6845F6">
                    <PARAM NAME="_Version" VALUE="393218">
                    <PARAM NAME="_ExtentX" VALUE="3810">
                    :
                    :
                    ****** SAMPLE END ********

                    If you want I can send you the ActiveX control for you to test.

                    Thanks!
                    Robert


                    Comment

                    • John Saunders

                      #11
                      Re: Question: HTML char limit for aspx page???

                      "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
                      news:O2RJrKJbDH A.1832@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
                      > I did another test.
                      >
                      > Here's exactly what I did:
                      > 1. Create a brand new ASP.NET project with a webform1.aspx.
                      > 2. Placed 50 occurances of the non-managed ActiveX control on the
                      > webform1.aspx. Saved it.
                      > 3. Debug/Start. Everything shows up fine.
                      > 4. Hit 'Refresh' everything is blank. (Even if I wait a while.)
                      > Debug/Start again - still blank. The View Source is this...[/color]

                      This is looking more and more like an IE bug (or rather, an MSHTML bug).
                      Recall that both IE and the VS.NET design mode use the same HTML rendering
                      engine.

                      I'm about out of clues. I'm guessing that some piece of code doesn't like to
                      see such an unusually large number of ActiveX controls. Perhaps you could
                      create a few meta-controls? Five controls each performing the functions of
                      ten of the originals might work better.

                      Also, have you played with the security settings? Try using the least-secure
                      settings and see if it's any different.
                      --
                      John Saunders
                      Internet Engineer
                      john.saunders@s urfcontrol.com


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                        #12
                        Re: Question: HTML char limit for aspx page???

                        Thanks for your help.

                        I appreciate the proactive and insightful suggestions.

                        "John Saunders" <john.saunders@ surfcontrol.com > wrote in message
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                        > "VB Programmer" <growNO-SPAM@go-intech.com> wrote in message
                        > news:O2RJrKJbDH A.1832@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl...[color=green]
                        > > I did another test.
                        > >
                        > > Here's exactly what I did:
                        > > 1. Create a brand new ASP.NET project with a webform1.aspx.
                        > > 2. Placed 50 occurances of the non-managed ActiveX control on the
                        > > webform1.aspx. Saved it.
                        > > 3. Debug/Start. Everything shows up fine.
                        > > 4. Hit 'Refresh' everything is blank. (Even if I wait a while.)
                        > > Debug/Start again - still blank. The View Source is this...[/color]
                        >
                        > This is looking more and more like an IE bug (or rather, an MSHTML bug).
                        > Recall that both IE and the VS.NET design mode use the same HTML rendering
                        > engine.
                        >
                        > I'm about out of clues. I'm guessing that some piece of code doesn't like[/color]
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                        > see such an unusually large number of ActiveX controls. Perhaps you could
                        > create a few meta-controls? Five controls each performing the functions of
                        > ten of the originals might work better.
                        >
                        > Also, have you played with the security settings? Try using the[/color]
                        least-secure[color=blue]
                        > settings and see if it's any different.
                        > --
                        > John Saunders
                        > Internet Engineer
                        > john.saunders@s urfcontrol.com
                        >
                        >[/color]


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