Debugger.

[MJ]

G'day.

I am currently using VS6 to debug my classic ASP pages. It works well, but I
find that I'd like something a little more robust and newer. I'm not liking
the way it works these days (by these days, I mean I'm wanting something
new - kinda like upgrading from a VW to a Porsche).

I've googled the interweb, and all I can find is aspstudio and references to
VS6. Search criteria included: asp debuggers, asp debugging, debugging asp
pages, debugger for asp, asp debugger programs and on and on.

Can anyone point me to a good debugger and/or recommend one please?

Thanks.

[Bob Barrows [MVP]]

Re: Debugger.

MJ wrote:

G'day.
>
I am currently using VS6 to debug my classic ASP pages. It works
well, but I find that I'd like something a little more robust and
newer. I'm not liking the way it works these days (by these days, I
mean I'm wanting something new - kinda like upgrading from a VW to a
Porsche).
>
I've googled the interweb, and all I can find is aspstudio and
references to VS6. Search criteria included: asp debuggers, asp
debugging, debugging asp pages, debugger for asp, asp debugger
programs and on and on.
>
Can anyone point me to a good debugger and/or recommend one please?
>

If you find one, let us know.
--
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header is my spam trap, so I don't check it very often. You will get a
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[Anthony Jones]

Re: Debugger.

"MJ" <mj.osullivan@y ahoo.cawrote in message
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G'day.
>
I am currently using VS6 to debug my classic ASP pages. It works well, but

I

find that I'd like something a little more robust and newer. I'm not

liking

the way it works these days (by these days, I mean I'm wanting something
new - kinda like upgrading from a VW to a Porsche).
>
I've googled the interweb, and all I can find is aspstudio and references

to

VS6. Search criteria included: asp debuggers, asp debugging, debugging asp
pages, debugger for asp, asp debugger programs and on and on.
>
Can anyone point me to a good debugger and/or recommend one please?
>

What would you be looking for when debugging ASP pages taht VS6 doesn't
already do?


--
Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET

[MJ]

Re: Debugger.

I should say what annoys me is that one needs the FP extensions enabled. I
have PHP services enabled on my server and they conflict more times than
not. This was confirmed on a Dev/Test server and after removing FP
extension, my PHP search features worked fine. I use EZgenerator and
Webuilder for generating the base code and editing, but that has nothing to
do with nothing.

So I lose debuggability or searchability. Hmm, not a big decision.

Also, I've found that watch points aren't as dynamic as they should be. I've
noticed that several watch point values aren't updated until I've stepped
two or 3 more times. I'm suspecting that this may have something do with my
anti-viral program (Kaspersky), OR the PHP services, but these only a
guesses, so don't hold me to them.

In any case, it is now 2008, I think it time to move on to newer
technologies and products.

The one that I found that I do like is ASP Studio 2008. However, their
update/upgrade policy is rather bizaar. I purchased ASP Studio 2007 on-line
4 months ago, the program offered me an update which I accepted. After 30
days, it asked me for my reg code. I re-entered it and it was rejected. They
tell me that the version I bought was no longer supported by the upgrade,
and trying to re-isntall 2007 just wont' work, says the eval period is
expired.

There's a lot more that went on, but I don't want to boar anyone any
further.

The other one that I found that looks good is Team Remote (as outlined in
their web site material), however they have no eval version available, and I
don't "Buy then Try" - just not a good practice.

Anyway, that's my story.

Cheers.
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"MJ" <mj.osullivan@y ahoo.cawrote in message
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>G'day.
>>
>I am currently using VS6 to debug my classic ASP pages. It works well,
>but

I

>find that I'd like something a little more robust and newer. I'm not

liking

>the way it works these days (by these days, I mean I'm wanting something
>new - kinda like upgrading from a VW to a Porsche).
>>
>I've googled the interweb, and all I can find is aspstudio and references

to

>VS6. Search criteria included: asp debuggers, asp debugging, debugging
>asp
>pages, debugger for asp, asp debugger programs and on and on.
>>
>Can anyone point me to a good debugger and/or recommend one please?
>>

>
What would you be looking for when debugging ASP pages taht VS6 doesn't
already do?
>
>
--
Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET
>
>
>

[MJ]

Re: Debugger.

Hi Bob, see my post in response to Anthony's query.

"Bob Barrows [MVP]" <reb01501@NOyah oo.SPAMcomwrote in message
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MJ wrote:

>G'day.
>>
>I am currently using VS6 to debug my classic ASP pages. It works
>well, but I find that I'd like something a little more robust and
>newer. I'm not liking the way it works these days (by these days, I
>mean I'm wanting something new - kinda like upgrading from a VW to a
>Porsche).
>>
>I've googled the interweb, and all I can find is aspstudio and
>references to VS6. Search criteria included: asp debuggers, asp
>debugging, debugging asp pages, debugger for asp, asp debugger
>programs and on and on.
>>
>Can anyone point me to a good debugger and/or recommend one please?
>>

If you find one, let us know.
--
Microsoft MVP -- ASP/ASP.NET
Please reply to the newsgroup. The email account listed in my From
header is my spam trap, so I don't check it very often. You will get a
quicker response by posting to the newsgroup.
>
>
>

[Anthony Jones]

Re: Debugger.

"MJ" <mj.osullivan@y ahoo.cawrote in message
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I should say what annoys me is that one needs the FP extensions enabled. I
have PHP services enabled on my server and they conflict more times than
not. This was confirmed on a Dev/Test server and after removing FP
extension, my PHP search features worked fine. I use EZgenerator and
Webuilder for generating the base code and editing, but that has nothing

to

do with nothing.
>
So I lose debuggability or searchability. Hmm, not a big decision.
>

As of VS 2005/8 has a much better way to represent the website in solution.
Not only does it not need FP (it used the file system) it doesn't even need
a project file.

Also, I've found that watch points aren't as dynamic as they should be.

I've

noticed that several watch point values aren't updated until I've stepped
two or 3 more times. I'm suspecting that this may have something do with

my

anti-viral program (Kaspersky), OR the PHP services, but these only a
guesses, so don't hold me to them.
>
In any case, it is now 2008, I think it time to move on to newer
technologies and products.
>

I've had trouble with Kaspersky myself and scripts running on web sites, its
a bit too agressive for me. I would recommend against on-access virus
scanning on a dev box and similarly for a server.

I've not noticed any problem with watch points in the later versions of VS
(I'm primarily using VS2005).

The one that I found that I do like is ASP Studio 2008. However, their
update/upgrade policy is rather bizaar. I purchased ASP Studio 2007

on-line

4 months ago, the program offered me an update which I accepted. After 30
days, it asked me for my reg code. I re-entered it and it was rejected.

They

tell me that the version I bought was no longer supported by the upgrade,
and trying to re-isntall 2007 just wont' work, says the eval period is
expired.
>
There's a lot more that went on, but I don't want to boar anyone any
further.
>
The other one that I found that looks good is Team Remote (as outlined in
their web site material), however they have no eval version available, and

I

don't "Buy then Try" - just not a good practice.
>

You could try VS 2008 Express, I've never actually used this free version so
I don't know what isn't in it that is in the full product, but being free
its worth a stab.

--
Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET

[Mike Brind [MVP]]

Re: Debugger.


"Anthony Jones" <Ant@yadayadaya da.comwrote in message
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"MJ" <mj.osullivan@y ahoo.cawrote in message
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>I should say what annoys me is that one needs the FP extensions enabled.
>I
>have PHP services enabled on my server and they conflict more times than
>not. This was confirmed on a Dev/Test server and after removing FP
>extension, my PHP search features worked fine. I use EZgenerator and
>Webuilder for generating the base code and editing, but that has nothing

to

>do with nothing.
>>
>So I lose debuggability or searchability. Hmm, not a big decision.
>>

>
As of VS 2005/8 has a much better way to represent the website in
solution.
Not only does it not need FP (it used the file system) it doesn't even
need
a project file.
>

>Also, I've found that watch points aren't as dynamic as they should be.

I've

>noticed that several watch point values aren't updated until I've stepped
>two or 3 more times. I'm suspecting that this may have something do with

my

>anti-viral program (Kaspersky), OR the PHP services, but these only a
>guesses, so don't hold me to them.
>>
>In any case, it is now 2008, I think it time to move on to newer
>technologies and products.
>>

>
I've had trouble with Kaspersky myself and scripts running on web sites,
its
a bit too agressive for me. I would recommend against on-access virus
scanning on a dev box and similarly for a server.
>
I've not noticed any problem with watch points in the later versions of VS
(I'm primarily using VS2005).
>
>

>The one that I found that I do like is ASP Studio 2008. However, their
>update/upgrade policy is rather bizaar. I purchased ASP Studio 2007

on-line

>4 months ago, the program offered me an update which I accepted. After 30
>days, it asked me for my reg code. I re-entered it and it was rejected.

They

>tell me that the version I bought was no longer supported by the upgrade,
>and trying to re-isntall 2007 just wont' work, says the eval period is
>expired.
>>
>There's a lot more that went on, but I don't want to boar anyone any
>further.
>>
>The other one that I found that looks good is Team Remote (as outlined in
>their web site material), however they have no eval version available,
>and

I

>don't "Buy then Try" - just not a good practice.
>>

>
You could try VS 2008 Express, I've never actually used this free version
so
I don't know what isn't in it that is in the full product, but being free
its worth a stab.
>

You will need the full version of VS. The Express versions (Visual Web
Developer) don't support Attach to Process. So you can't use them for
debugging classic.

--
Mike Brind
MVP - ASP/ASP.NET

[MJ]

Re: Debugger.

Thanks Anthony. I am looking into VS 2k5/8 as per your post. From what I
see, I believe it will do quite well.

Don't know why I didn't look into it myself.

Can I leave VS6 on my system with VS 2k5/8? I suspect I can, but want to
make sure before I proceed with purchasing it.

Thanks
"Anthony Jones" <Ant@yadayadaya da.comwrote in message
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"MJ" <mj.osullivan@y ahoo.cawrote in message
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>I should say what annoys me is that one needs the FP extensions enabled.
>I
>have PHP services enabled on my server and they conflict more times than
>not. This was confirmed on a Dev/Test server and after removing FP
>extension, my PHP search features worked fine. I use EZgenerator and
>Webuilder for generating the base code and editing, but that has nothing

to

>do with nothing.
>>
>So I lose debuggability or searchability. Hmm, not a big decision.
>>

>
As of VS 2005/8 has a much better way to represent the website in
solution.
Not only does it not need FP (it used the file system) it doesn't even
need
a project file.
>

>Also, I've found that watch points aren't as dynamic as they should be.

I've

>noticed that several watch point values aren't updated until I've stepped
>two or 3 more times. I'm suspecting that this may have something do with

my

>anti-viral program (Kaspersky), OR the PHP services, but these only a
>guesses, so don't hold me to them.
>>
>In any case, it is now 2008, I think it time to move on to newer
>technologies and products.
>>

>
I've had trouble with Kaspersky myself and scripts running on web sites,
its
a bit too agressive for me. I would recommend against on-access virus
scanning on a dev box and similarly for a server.
>
I've not noticed any problem with watch points in the later versions of VS
(I'm primarily using VS2005).
>
>

>The one that I found that I do like is ASP Studio 2008. However, their
>update/upgrade policy is rather bizaar. I purchased ASP Studio 2007

on-line

>4 months ago, the program offered me an update which I accepted. After 30
>days, it asked me for my reg code. I re-entered it and it was rejected.

They

>tell me that the version I bought was no longer supported by the upgrade,
>and trying to re-isntall 2007 just wont' work, says the eval period is
>expired.
>>
>There's a lot more that went on, but I don't want to boar anyone any
>further.
>>
>The other one that I found that looks good is Team Remote (as outlined in
>their web site material), however they have no eval version available,
>and

I

>don't "Buy then Try" - just not a good practice.
>>

>
You could try VS 2008 Express, I've never actually used this free version
so
I don't know what isn't in it that is in the full product, but being free
its worth a stab.
>
--
Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET
>
>
>

[MJ]

Re: Debugger.

Thanks Mike, I am looking at VS2k5/8 as per Anthony's post and yours.

Cheers.
"Mike Brind [MVP]" <paxtonend@hotm ail.comwrote in message
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>
"Anthony Jones" <Ant@yadayadaya da.comwrote in message
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>"MJ" <mj.osullivan@y ahoo.cawrote in message
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>>I should say what annoys me is that one needs the FP extensions enabled.
>>I
>>have PHP services enabled on my server and they conflict more times than
>>not. This was confirmed on a Dev/Test server and after removing FP
>>extension, my PHP search features worked fine. I use EZgenerator and
>>Webuilder for generating the base code and editing, but that has nothing

>to

>>do with nothing.
>>>
>>So I lose debuggability or searchability. Hmm, not a big decision.
>>>

>>
>As of VS 2005/8 has a much better way to represent the website in
>solution.
>Not only does it not need FP (it used the file system) it doesn't even
>need
>a project file.
>>

>>Also, I've found that watch points aren't as dynamic as they should be.

>I've

>>noticed that several watch point values aren't updated until I've
>>stepped
>>two or 3 more times. I'm suspecting that this may have something do with

>my

>>anti-viral program (Kaspersky), OR the PHP services, but these only a
>>guesses, so don't hold me to them.
>>>
>>In any case, it is now 2008, I think it time to move on to newer
>>technologie s and products.
>>>

>>
>I've had trouble with Kaspersky myself and scripts running on web sites,
>its
>a bit too agressive for me. I would recommend against on-access virus
>scanning on a dev box and similarly for a server.
>>
>I've not noticed any problem with watch points in the later versions of
>VS
>(I'm primarily using VS2005).
>>
>>

>>The one that I found that I do like is ASP Studio 2008. However, their
>>update/upgrade policy is rather bizaar. I purchased ASP Studio 2007

>on-line

>>4 months ago, the program offered me an update which I accepted. After
>>30
>>days, it asked me for my reg code. I re-entered it and it was rejected.

>They

>>tell me that the version I bought was no longer supported by the
>>upgrade,
>>and trying to re-isntall 2007 just wont' work, says the eval period is
>>expired.
>>>
>>There's a lot more that went on, but I don't want to boar anyone any
>>further.
>>>
>>The other one that I found that looks good is Team Remote (as outlined
>>in
>>their web site material), however they have no eval version available,
>>and

>I

>>don't "Buy then Try" - just not a good practice.
>>>

>>
>You could try VS 2008 Express, I've never actually used this free version
>so
>I don't know what isn't in it that is in the full product, but being free
>its worth a stab.
>>

>
You will need the full version of VS. The Express versions (Visual Web
Developer) don't support Attach to Process. So you can't use them for
debugging classic.
>
--
Mike Brind
MVP - ASP/ASP.NET
>
>

[Jon Paal [MSMD]]

Re: Debugger.

The one that I found that I do like is ASP Studio 2008.

where did you find this ??

[MJ]

Re: Debugger. ASP Studio Link

Here is the link for ASP Studio: http://en.ewebxp.com/

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>

>The one that I found that I do like is ASP Studio 2008.

where did you find this ??
>
>

[Anthony Jones]

Re: Debugger.

"MJ" <mj.osullivan@y ahoo.cawrote in message
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Thanks Anthony. I am looking into VS 2k5/8 as per your post. From what I
see, I believe it will do quite well.
>
Don't know why I didn't look into it myself.
>
Can I leave VS6 on my system with VS 2k5/8? I suspect I can, but want to
make sure before I proceed with purchasing it.
>

Yes you can have VS6 and VS 2k8 on the same machine. Make sure you patch
2k8 once you get it.



--
Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET

[MJ]

Re: Debugger.

Thanks Anthony.

"Anthony Jones" <Ant@yadayadaya da.comwrote in message
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"MJ" <mj.osullivan@y ahoo.cawrote in message
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>Thanks Anthony. I am looking into VS 2k5/8 as per your post. From what I
>see, I believe it will do quite well.
>>
>Don't know why I didn't look into it myself.
>>
>Can I leave VS6 on my system with VS 2k5/8? I suspect I can, but want to
>make sure before I proceed with purchasing it.
>>

>
Yes you can have VS6 and VS 2k8 on the same machine. Make sure you patch
2k8 once you get it.
>
>
>
--
Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET
>
>
>

[Jon Paal [MSMD]]

Re: Debugger. ASP Studio Link

Seems they only have a 2006 version -- there is no 2008 version.