getting Reffering site info

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Hello,
I want to get reffering site info like if the way they got to the site is
from google, While that is easy enough, of course, but I want to get that
info after they have been on the site for a while, I was thinking that I
could get the reffer in the session_onstart event, and make it a session var
but that did not work, So I am looking for thoughts about this.

Tdar

[Evertjan.]

Re: getting Reffering site info

=?Utf-8?B?VGRhclRkYXI =?= wrote on 23 jul 2007 in
microsoft.publi c.inetserver.as p.general:

Hello,
I want to get reffering site info like if the way they got to the
site is
from google, While that is easy enough, of course, but I want to get
that info after they have been on the site for a while, I was thinking
that I could get the reffer in the session_onstart event, and make it
a session var but that did not work, So I am looking for thoughts
about this.

Referrer = Request.ServerV ariables("HTTP_ REFERER")

Why would you want he result in a session variable,
as the above is available all through the session?


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[=?Utf-8?B?VGRhclRkYXI=?=]

Re: getting Reffering site info

So HTTP_REFERER is only populated from the start and when they run thru
other pages of our site it aways stays the same data as the first time they
accesed the site?


"Evertjan." wrote:

=?Utf-8?B?VGRhclRkYXI =?= wrote on 23 jul 2007 in
microsoft.publi c.inetserver.as p.general:
>

Hello,
I want to get reffering site info like if the way they got to the
site is
from google, While that is easy enough, of course, but I want to get
that info after they have been on the site for a while, I was thinking
that I could get the reffer in the session_onstart event, and make it
a session var but that did not work, So I am looking for thoughts
about this.

>
Referrer = Request.ServerV ariables("HTTP_ REFERER")
>
Why would you want he result in a session variable,
as the above is available all through the session?
>
>
--
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)
>

[Evertjan.]

Re: getting Reffering site info

=?Utf-8?B?VGRhclRkYXI =?= wrote on 23 jul 2007 in
microsoft.publi c.inetserver.as p.general:

"Evertjan." wrote:
>

>=?Utf-8?B?VGRhclRkYXI =?= wrote on 23 jul 2007 in
>microsoft.publ ic.inetserver.a sp.general:
>>

Hello,
I want to get reffering site info like if the way they got to the
site is
from google, While that is easy enough, of course, but I want to
get that info after they have been on the site for a while, I was
thinking that I could get the reffer in the session_onstart event,
and make it a session var but that did not work, So I am looking
for thoughts about this.

>>
>Referrer = Request.ServerV ariables("HTTP_ REFERER")
>>
>Why would you want he result in a session variable,
>as the above is available all through the session?

[Please do not toppost on usenet]

So HTTP_REFERER is only populated from the start and when they run
thru other pages of our site it aways stays the same data as the first
time they accesed the site?

You are right, my mistake.



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[=?Utf-8?B?VGRhclRkYXI=?=]

Re: getting Reffering site info

So I still need a solve for this, :(

If it was possiable to get ServerVariables ("HTTP_REFERER" )
when the session is first opened, I should try a asp.net handler?
and get it before the page is write is that even possiable?





"Evertjan." wrote:

=?Utf-8?B?VGRhclRkYXI =?= wrote on 23 jul 2007 in
microsoft.publi c.inetserver.as p.general:
>

"Evertjan." wrote:

=?Utf-8?B?VGRhclRkYXI =?= wrote on 23 jul 2007 in
microsoft.publi c.inetserver.as p.general:
>
Hello,
I want to get reffering site info like if the way they got to the
site is
from google, While that is easy enough, of course, but I want to
get that info after they have been on the site for a while, I was
thinking that I could get the reffer in the session_onstart event,
and make it a session var but that did not work, So I am looking
for thoughts about this.
>
Referrer = Request.ServerV ariables("HTTP_ REFERER")
>
Why would you want he result in a session variable,
as the above is available all through the session?

>
[Please do not toppost on usenet]
>

So HTTP_REFERER is only populated from the start and when they run
thru other pages of our site it aways stays the same data as the first
time they accesed the site?

>
You are right, my mistake.
>
>
>
--
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)
>

[Evertjan.]

Re: getting Reffering site info

=?Utf-8?B?VGRhclRkYXI =?= wrote on 23 jul 2007 in
microsoft.publi c.inetserver.as p.general:

So I still need a solve for this, :(
>
If it was possiable to get ServerVariables ("HTTP_REFERER" )
when the session is first opened, I should try a asp.net handler?
and get it before the page is write is that even possiable?

Sorry, I do not like topposting.

>
"Evertjan." wrote:
>

>=?Utf-8?B?VGRhclRkYXI =?= wrote on 23 jul 2007 in
>microsoft.publ ic.inetserver.a sp.general:
>>

"Evertjan." wrote:
>
>=?Utf-8?B?VGRhclRkYXI =?= wrote on 23 jul 2007 in
>microsoft.publ ic.inetserver.a sp.general:
>>
Hello,
I want to get reffering site info like if the way they got to
the site is
from google, While that is easy enough, of course, but I want to
get that info after they have been on the site for a while, I
was thinking that I could get the reffer in the session_onstart
event, and make it a session var but that did not work, So I am
looking for thoughts about this.
>>
>Referrer = Request.ServerV ariables("HTTP_ REFERER")
>>
>Why would you want he result in a session variable,
>as the above is available all through the session?

>>
>[Please do not toppost on usenet]
>>

So HTTP_REFERER is only populated from the start and when they run
thru other pages of our site it aways stays the same data as the
first time they accesed the site?

>>
>You are right, my mistake.

--
Evertjan.
The Netherlands.
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[Bob Barrows [MVP]]

Re: getting Reffering site info

TdarTdar wrote:

Hello,
I want to get reffering site info like if the way they got to the
site is from google, While that is easy enough, of course, but I want
to get that info after they have been on the site for a while, I was
thinking that I could get the reffer in the session_onstart event,
and make it a session var but that did not work, So I am looking for
thoughts about this.
>

Start by showing us the code you attempted to use and then move on to
telling us what "did not work" means.

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Re: getting Reffering site info

in global.asa and in global.asax

Sub Session_OnStart
Session("WhereF rom") = Request.ServerV ariables("HTTP_ REFERER")
End Sub


When I run a test to see if it worked I get nothing
EX:
<body>
<%=Session("Whe reFrom")%>
</body>







"Bob Barrows [MVP]" wrote:

TdarTdar wrote:

Hello,
I want to get reffering site info like if the way they got to the
site is from google, While that is easy enough, of course, but I want
to get that info after they have been on the site for a while, I was
thinking that I could get the reffer in the session_onstart event,
and make it a session var but that did not work, So I am looking for
thoughts about this.

Start by showing us the code you attempted to use and then move on to
telling us what "did not work" means.
>
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[Bob Barrows [MVP]]

Re: getting Reffering site info

TdarTdar wrote:

in global.asa and in global.asax
>
Sub Session_OnStart
Session("WhereF rom") = Request.ServerV ariables("HTTP_ REFERER")
End Sub
>
>
When I run a test to see if it worked I get nothing
EX:
<body>
<%=Session("Whe reFrom")%>
</body>
>

I see. yes, the code to assign the value for Session("WhereF rom") has to be
in a .asp page, not in global.asa. HTTP_REFERER will be empty in global.asa
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[=?Utf-8?B?VGRhclRkYXI=?=]

Re: getting Reffering site info

Hi,
I was thinking the same thing untill i saw this article

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms953184.aspx

and this code from it

Sub Session_onStart ()
On Error Resume Next
strSQL = "INSERT INTO Sessions " _
&
"(EventType,URL ,Referer,Remote Host,UserAgent, UALanguage,User ID,HostIP)" _
& " VALUES ('New Session', '" _
& Request.ServerV ariables("URL") & "', '" _
& Request.ServerV ariables("HTTP_ REFERER") & "', '" _
& Request.ServerV ariables("REMOT E_HOST") & "', '" _
& Request.ServerV ariables("HTTP_ USER_AGENT") & "', '" _
& Request.ServerV ariables("HTTP_ ACCEPT_LANGUAGE ") & "', " _
& CLng(Session.Se ssionID) & ", '" _
& Request.ServerV ariables("LOCAL _ADDR") & "')"
WriteSessionDat a(strSQL)
End Sub

So I thought maybe that it was due to having the same session names in
global.asa as global.asax and that was not the case I still get nothing, of
course I can
get the http_REFERER. The article does say it if is not an asp page then it
will not work on htm pages, and the page is an asp page.

So I am kinda stumped why microsoft says it is possiable in there one article



"Bob Barrows [MVP]" wrote:

TdarTdar wrote:

in global.asa and in global.asax

Sub Session_OnStart
Session("WhereF rom") = Request.ServerV ariables("HTTP_ REFERER")
End Sub


When I run a test to see if it worked I get nothing
EX:
<body>
<%=Session("Whe reFrom")%>
</body>

I see. yes, the code to assign the value for Session("WhereF rom") has to be
in a .asp page, not in global.asa. HTTP_REFERER will be empty in global.asa
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>
>

[Anthony Jones]

Re: getting Reffering site info

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TdarTdar wrote:

in global.asa and in global.asax

Sub Session_OnStart
Session("WhereF rom") = Request.ServerV ariables("HTTP_ REFERER")
End Sub


When I run a test to see if it worked I get nothing
EX:
<body>
<%=Session("Whe reFrom")%>
</body>

I see. yes, the code to assign the value for Session("WhereF rom") has to

be

in a .asp page, not in global.asa. HTTP_REFERER will be empty in

global.asa

I haven't tested it yet but I can't see why that should be so.
Session_OnStart does occur in the context of a HTTP request and all that a
ServerVariables ("HTTP_XXXXX ") does is access the request header called
XXXXX. ASP would have to go out of its way to block access to the Referer
for some reason for it not be able to read this header.

--
Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET

[Anthony Jones]

Re: getting Reffering site info

"TdarTdar" <TdarTdar@discu ssions.microsof t.comwrote in message
news:1F2B30B5-1447-481B-A5B1-14A6DAFBB732@mi crosoft.com...

Hi,
I was thinking the same thing untill i saw this article

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms953184.aspx

and this code from it
>
Sub Session_onStart ()
On Error Resume Next
strSQL = "INSERT INTO Sessions " _
&
"(EventType,URL ,Referer,Remote Host,UserAgent, UALanguage,User ID,HostIP)" _
& " VALUES ('New Session', '" _
& Request.ServerV ariables("URL") & "', '" _
& Request.ServerV ariables("HTTP_ REFERER") & "', '" _
& Request.ServerV ariables("REMOT E_HOST") & "', '" _
& Request.ServerV ariables("HTTP_ USER_AGENT") & "', '" _
& Request.ServerV ariables("HTTP_ ACCEPT_LANGUAGE ") & "', " _
& CLng(Session.Se ssionID) & ", '" _
& Request.ServerV ariables("LOCAL _ADDR") & "')"
WriteSessionDat a(strSQL)
End Sub
>
So I thought maybe that it was due to having the same session names in
global.asa as global.asax and that was not the case I still get nothing,

of

course I can
get the http_REFERER. The article does say it if is not an asp page then

it

will not work on htm pages, and the page is an asp page.
>
So I am kinda stumped why microsoft says it is possiable in there one

article

>

Have you checked that a referer header is actually being sent by the
browser?
Use www.fiddlertool.com to watch what the browser is doing when you navigate
from one page into a page that starts the session.


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[Bob Barrows [MVP]]

Re: getting Reffering site info

Anthony Jones wrote:

"Bob Barrows [MVP]" <reb01501@NOyah oo.SPAMcomwrote in message
news:%23WZMpz5z HHA.4928@TK2MSF TNGP05.phx.gbl. ..

>TdarTdar wrote:

>>in global.asa and in global.asax
>>>
>>Sub Session_OnStart
>> Session("WhereF rom") = Request.ServerV ariables("HTTP_ REFERER")
>>End Sub
>>>
>>>
>>When I run a test to see if it worked I get nothing
>>EX:
>><body>
>> <%=Session("Whe reFrom")%>
>></body>
>>>

>I see. yes, the code to assign the value for Session("WhereF rom")
>has to be in a .asp page, not in global.asa. HTTP_REFERER will be
>empty in global.asa

>
I haven't tested it yet but I can't see why that should be so.
Session_OnStart does occur in the context of a HTTP request and all
that a ServerVariables ("HTTP_XXXXX ") does is access the request
header called XXXXX. ASP would have to go out of its way to block
access to the Referer for some reason for it not be able to read this
header.

Now that i think about it, I'm not sure what I was thinking of. It would
still help to test it to verify it, but I can find nothing to say the
ServerVariables aren't available in global.asa.
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[=?Utf-8?B?VGRhclRkYXI=?=]

Re: getting Reffering site info

Anthony,
I have done a check but not with www.fiddlertool.com I do get a http_***
stuff in the browser when I test and loop thru them all from the page.
...

I may have a support incident avaiable so I guess I am going to have to go
that route.



"Bob Barrows [MVP]" wrote:

Anthony Jones wrote:

"Bob Barrows [MVP]" <reb01501@NOyah oo.SPAMcomwrote in message
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TdarTdar wrote:
>in global.asa and in global.asax
>>
>Sub Session_OnStart
> Session("WhereF rom") = Request.ServerV ariables("HTTP_ REFERER")
>End Sub
>>
>>
>When I run a test to see if it worked I get nothing
>EX:
><body>
> <%=Session("Whe reFrom")%>
></body>
>>
I see. yes, the code to assign the value for Session("WhereF rom")
has to be in a .asp page, not in global.asa. HTTP_REFERER will be
empty in global.asa

I haven't tested it yet but I can't see why that should be so.
Session_OnStart does occur in the context of a HTTP request and all
that a ServerVariables ("HTTP_XXXXX ") does is access the request
header called XXXXX. ASP would have to go out of its way to block
access to the Referer for some reason for it not be able to read this
header.

>
Now that i think about it, I'm not sure what I was thinking of. It would
still help to test it to verify it, but I can find nothing to say the
ServerVariables aren't available in global.asa.
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[Anthony Jones]

Re: getting Reffering site info

"TdarTdar" <TdarTdar@discu ssions.microsof t.comwrote in message
news:5F16804E-3BA3-400A-BD92-3901DA5B7B74@mi crosoft.com...

Anthony,
I have done a check but not with www.fiddlertool.com I do get a http_***
stuff in the browser when I test and loop thru them all from the page.
..
>

Do you get HTTP_REFERER header in your test? You are navigating to it from
another page that is outside your app? If you enter the URL in the address
bar or using a link from favorites or some such you're not going to get a
referer.


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