Request.Form(var) empty with IE, works fine with Firefox. Help please.

**Ray Costanzo [MVP]** · Sep 1 '06, 02:05 PM

Re: Request.Form(va r) empty with IE, works fine with Firefox. Help please.

Can you give your ASP code? Also, what's "submit()?" An <input
type="image"wil l submit the form when clicked already.

Ray at work

"Dave" <dave@seafarete ch.co.ukwrote in message
news:1157118656 .449405.142850@ p79g2000cwp.goo glegroups.com.. .

Hi,
>
I've been trawling the web for answer to my problem with no luck
although I'm hardly alone it seems!
>
Below is the generated source for an ASP page that posts a value called
'album' to another ASP page. The other page retrieves the value with
Request.Form('a lbum'); On Firefox this works fine every time. On IE6, I
always get nothing. I'm pretty sure it's the posting side that is at
fault, so that's what I've shown here. Oh, I tried Request.QuerySt ring
too and again, fine on Firefox, nothing on IE6.
>
Any help would be much appreciated.
>
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<title>Galler y</title>

<link rel="stylesheet " type="text/css"
href="_themes/poetic2/poet1011.css">
<meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="poetic 2 1011, default">
</head>
<body>
<form name='albumsele ct' action="gallery _intro.asp" method="post"
target="intro">
<CENTER><h2>ALB UMS</h2></CENTER><hr><br>
<CENTER><inpu t name='album' type=image src='photogalle ry/Test
One/Title.jpg' value='photogal lery/Test One'
onClick='submit ();'></CENTER>
<CENTER>Test One Photos</CENTER><br><hr> <br>
<CENTER><inpu t name='album' type=image src='photogalle ry/Test
Two/Title.jpg' value='photogal lery/Test Two'
onClick='submit ();'></CENTER>
<CENTER>Test Two Photos</CENTER><br><hr> <br>
<CENTER><inpu t name='album' type=image src='photogalle ry/Test
Three/Title.jpg' value='photogal lery/Test Three'
onClick='submit ();'></CENTER>
<CENTER>Test Three Photos</CENTER><br><hr> <br>
</form>
</body>
</html>
>
Regards,
>
Dave
>

**Bob Barrows [MVP]** · Sep 1 '06, 02:15 PM

Re: Request.Form(va r) empty with IE, works fine with Firefox. Help please.

Dave wrote:

Hi,
>
I've been trawling the web for answer to my problem with no luck
although I'm hardly alone it seems!
>
Below is the generated source for an ASP page that posts a value
called 'album' to another ASP page. The other page retrieves the
value with Request.Form('a lbum'); On Firefox this works fine every
time. On IE6, I always get nothing. I'm pretty sure it's the posting
side that is at fault, so that's what I've shown here.

If so, a client-side newsgroup would have been more appropriate (ASP only
concerns server-side activity). But, read on ...

Oh, I tried
Request.QuerySt ring too and again, fine on Firefox, nothing on IE6.
>
Any help would be much appreciated.

In the future, when posting html, remove everything that's not related to
reproducing the problem, please. For example, we have no access to your
style sheets, etc. so there's no need to show us those tags. Further: you
have three image inputs with the same name. Does the problem only occur when
you have more than one input with the same name?

Here is my attempt to reproduce your problem (and yes, I did test the
difference between one and more than one input):
<%@ Language=VBScri pt %>
<%
if Request.Form.Co unt0 then
Response.Write "Request.Form(" "album.x"") contains<br>"
Response.Write Request.Form("a lbum.x") & "<br>"
Response.Write "Request.Form(" "album.y"") contains<br>"
Response.Write Request.Form("a lbum.y") & "<br>"
else
Response.Write "No Form variables"
end if
%>
<HTML>
<BODY>
<form name='albumsele ct' method="post">
<CENTER><h2>ALB UMS</h2></CENTER><hr><br>
<CENTER><inpu t name='album' type=image src='images/vba3626.gif'
value='photogal lery/Test One'
onClick='albums elect.submit(); '></CENTER>
<CENTER>Test One Photos</CENTER><br><hr> <br>
<CENTER><inpu t name='album' type=image
src='images/vba3626_2.gif' value='photogal lery/Test Two'
onClick='albums elect.submit(); '></CENTER>
<CENTER>Test Two Photos</CENTER><br><hr> <br>
<CENTER><inpu t name='album' type=image
src='images/vba3626.gif' value='photogal lery/Test Three'
onClick='albums elect.submit(); '></CENTER>
<CENTER>Test Three Photos</CENTER><br><hr> <br>
</form>
</BODY>
</HTML>

Everything works as expected. What are you doing differently? Are you
attempting to get the value propert? If so, the online docs at msdn state:

The x-coordinate is submitted under the name of the control with .x
appended, and the y-coordinate is submitted under the name of the control
with .y appended. Any value property is ignored.

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**McKirahan** · Sep 1 '06, 02:25 PM

Re: Request.Form(va r) empty with IE, works fine with Firefox. Help please.

"Dave" <dave@seafarete ch.co.ukwrote in message
news:1157118656 .449405.142850@ p79g2000cwp.goo glegroups.com.. .

Hi,
>
I've been trawling the web for answer to my problem with no luck
although I'm hardly alone it seems!
>
Below is the generated source for an ASP page that posts a value called
'album' to another ASP page. The other page retrieves the value with
Request.Form('a lbum'); On Firefox this works fine every time. On IE6, I
always get nothing. I'm pretty sure it's the posting side that is at
fault, so that's what I've shown here. Oh, I tried Request.QuerySt ring
too and again, fine on Firefox, nothing on IE6.
>
Any help would be much appreciated.
>
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<title>Galler y</title>

<link rel="stylesheet " type="text/css"
href="_themes/poetic2/poet1011.css">
<meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="poetic 2 1011, default">
</head>
<body>
<form name='albumsele ct' action="gallery _intro.asp" method="post"
target="intro">
<CENTER><h2>ALB UMS</h2></CENTER><hr><br>
<CENTER><inpu t name='album' type=image src='photogalle ry/Test
One/Title.jpg' value='photogal lery/Test One'
onClick='submit ();'></CENTER>
<CENTER>Test One Photos</CENTER><br><hr> <br>
<CENTER><inpu t name='album' type=image src='photogalle ry/Test
Two/Title.jpg' value='photogal lery/Test Two'
onClick='submit ();'></CENTER>
<CENTER>Test Two Photos</CENTER><br><hr> <br>
<CENTER><inpu t name='album' type=image src='photogalle ry/Test
Three/Title.jpg' value='photogal lery/Test Three'
onClick='submit ();'></CENTER>
<CENTER>Test Three Photos</CENTER><br><hr> <br>
</form>
</body>
</html>

Strip it down and you have:
<input name='album' type=image
three times!

Which is your
Request.Form('a lbum');
supposed to reference?

Of course, were seeing the generated code not the ASP page...

Strip the calling and called pages down to the minimum
then test them; if there's still a problem then post them.

**Dave** · Sep 1 '06, 02:25 PM

Re: Request.Form(va r) empty with IE, works fine with Firefox. Help please.

Hi Ray,

Thanks for responding. The ASP is below. As another exercise I did a
view source from both firefox and IE6 to compare them. Whether this is
merely a difference in the two "view source" implementations I don't
know but in the Firefox one, the single quotes around 'album' had been
changed to double quotes ("album") and the strings for img src had been
'translated', ie the spaces changed to %20.

eg: Firefox says:

<center><inpu t name="album" src="photogalle ry/Test%20One/Title.jpg"
value="photogal lery/Test One" onclick="submit ();"
type="image"></center>

but IE6 says:

<center><inpu t name='album' src='photogalle ry/Test One/Title.jpg'
value='photogal lery/Test One' onclick=submit( );' type='image'></center>

Probably a red herring but I thought I'd mention it.

The ASP code for this is:

------------------------------------------------------------------
<%@ Language=JavaSc ript %>
<html>

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<title>Galler y</title>
<meta name="Microsoft Theme" content="poetic 2 1011, default">
</head>

<body>

<form name='albumsele ct' action="gallery _intro.asp" method="post"
target="intro">
<CENTER><h2>ALB UMS</h2></CENTER><hr><br>

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaS cript" RUNAT="Server">

var fso, f, fc, fs, so, tl;
var fullpath, fsr;

fso = new ActiveXObject(" Scripting.FileS ystemObject");

fullpath = Server.MapPath( "photogallery") ;

f = fso.GetFolder(f ullpath);
fc = new Enumerator(f.Su bFolders);

for (; !fc.atEnd(); fc.moveNext())
{
fs = fc.item().Path;
so = fso.OpenTextFil e(fs + "/Title.txt", 1, 0);
tl = so.ReadLine();
so.Close();

fs = fc.item().Name;
fsr = "photogalle ry/" + fs.toString();
Response.Write( "<CENTER><i nput name='album' type=image src='" + fsr +
"/Title.jpg' value='" + fsr + "' onClick='submit ();'></CENTER>");
Response.Write( "<CENTER>" + tl + "</CENTER><br><hr> <br>");
}

Response.Write( "</form></body></html>");

</SCRIPT>
------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm now really hoping you look at this and go "Ah Ha!!!".

As for the submit(): According to my documentation, its required to
make the form submit when you click the pic. Perhaps it one of those
optional bits.

Dave

Ray Costanzo [MVP] wrote:

Can you give your ASP code? Also, what's "submit()?" An <input
type="image"wil l submit the form when clicked already.
>
Ray at work
>

**Dave** · Sep 1 '06, 02:35 PM

Re: Request.Form(va r) empty with IE, works fine with Firefox. Help please.

I've posted the ASP now. I tried it with just one entry instead of
three. Same problem.

With Firefox, the Request.Form correctly references the instance of
'album' that was clicked.

Thanks for the thought though.

Dave

McKirahan wrote:

Strip it down and you have:
<input name='album' type=image
three times!
>
Which is your
Request.Form('a lbum');
supposed to reference?
>
Of course, were seeing the generated code not the ASP page...
>
Strip the calling and called pages down to the minimum
then test them; if there's still a problem then post them.

**Dave Anderson** · Sep 1 '06, 04:25 PM

Re: Request.Form(va r) empty with IE, works fine with Firefox. Help please.

Dave wrote:

On Firefox this works fine every time. On IE6, I always
get nothing.
>
<input name='album' type=image ...>

If you simply tried this, you would understand the issue entirely:

Response.Write( Request.Form)

In short, INPUT TYPE="image" elements send .x and .y values. According to
MSDN, VALUE is not a valid property of this element:

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This appears to conflict somewhat with the HTML specification:

Forms in HTML documents

http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#adef-value-INPUT

If you want to know which image input was clicked, you need unique names,
and then you can do this:

JScript:
if (Request.Form(" input_name.x"). Count) ...

VBScript:
If Request.Form("i nput_name.x").C ount 0 Then ...

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**McKirahan** · Sep 1 '06, 04:35 PM

Re: Request.Form(va r) empty with IE, works fine with Firefox. Help please.

"Dave" <dave@seafarete ch.co.ukwrote in message
news:1157121753 .944053.302660@ 74g2000cwt.goog legroups.com...

I've posted the ASP now.

[snip]

Where?

**Dave Anderson** · Sep 1 '06, 04:45 PM

Re: Request.Form(va r) empty with IE, works fine with Firefox. Help please.

I wrote:

According to MSDN, VALUE is not a valid property of this element:
>

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>
This appears to conflict somewhat with the HTML specification:
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interac...ef-value-INPUT

I should add that this behavior (not sending the name-value pair) remains
the same under IE7.

And to clarify my comment about a conflict with the specification, I think
Microsoft and Mozilla interpret the recommendation differently. There is
wriggle room, too, since the recommendation does not define image controls
as Control Types, which directly refutes the notion that they could be
Successful Controls:

Forms in HTML documents

http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#h-17.2.1

Forms in HTML documents

http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#h-17.13.2

FWIW, Opera behaves like IE on this matter.

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**Dave** · Sep 1 '06, 08:35 PM

Re: Request.Form(va r) empty with IE, works fine with Firefox. Help please.

Mr Anderson, you're a star. Many many thanks.

Dave

Dave Anderson wrote:

I wrote:

According to MSDN, VALUE is not a valid property of this element:

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This appears to conflict somewhat with the HTML specification:
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interac...ef-value-INPUT

>
I should add that this behavior (not sending the name-value pair) remains
the same under IE7.
>
And to clarify my comment about a conflict with the specification, I think
Microsoft and Mozilla interpret the recommendation differently. There is
wriggle room, too, since the recommendation does not define image controls
as Control Types, which directly refutes the notion that they could be
Successful Controls:
>

Forms in HTML documents

http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#h-17.2.1

Forms in HTML documents

http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#h-17.13.2

>
>
FWIW, Opera behaves like IE on this matter.
>
>
>
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>
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