Is Apache ASP similar to ASP?

[Brett]

I'm developing with CF 5 and SQL Server 2000. I think they are both
great products. The major draw is their cost. I don't develop stand
alone products because anyone that wants to purchase them must also
purchase CF Server and SQL Server. So I run them as a hosted service.

MySQL is supposed to be free. If you are using this product, how do
you like it? What are you using for a front end?

I'd like to move toward developing software that some one can run on
their own webserver with the only cost being the software purchase.
That means the database and front end software need to be free (MySQL,
PHP, CGI). If the customer doesn't have these, they can download them
for free or small fee. What are some feasible alternatives to CF and
SQL Server?

Is ASP Apache comparable to ASP or ASP.NET? Everything will run on a
Lunix Server to keep cost down.

Thanks,
Brett

[Matt Foster]

Re: Is Apache ASP similar to ASP?

Use PHP and MySQL ;)



"Brett" <account@cygen. com> wrote in message
news:c003b25a.0 404041133.4765b 6bd@posting.goo gle.com...[color=blue]
> I'm developing with CF 5 and SQL Server 2000. I think they are both
> great products. The major draw is their cost. I don't develop stand
> alone products because anyone that wants to purchase them must also
> purchase CF Server and SQL Server. So I run them as a hosted service.
>
> MySQL is supposed to be free. If you are using this product, how do
> you like it? What are you using for a front end?
>
> I'd like to move toward developing software that some one can run on
> their own webserver with the only cost being the software purchase.
> That means the database and front end software need to be free (MySQL,
> PHP, CGI). If the customer doesn't have these, they can download them
> for free or small fee. What are some feasible alternatives to CF and
> SQL Server?
>
> Is ASP Apache comparable to ASP or ASP.NET? Everything will run on a
> Lunix Server to keep cost down.
>
> Thanks,
> Brett[/color]

[Jeff Cochran]

Re: Is Apache ASP similar to ASP?

On 4 Apr 2004 12:33:21 -0700, account@cygen.c om (Brett) wrote:
[color=blue]
>I'm developing with CF 5 and SQL Server 2000. I think they are both
>great products. The major draw is their cost. I don't develop stand
>alone products because anyone that wants to purchase them must also
>purchase CF Server and SQL Server. So I run them as a hosted service.
>
>MySQL is supposed to be free. If you are using this product, how do
>you like it?[/color]

Works fine, with a few idiosyncracies.
[color=blue]
>What are you using for a front end?[/color]

IIS/ASP and Apache/PHP/Perl
[color=blue]
>I'd like to move toward developing software that some one can run on
>their own webserver with the only cost being the software purchase.
>That means the database and front end software need to be free (MySQL,
>PHP, CGI). If the customer doesn't have these, they can download them
>for free or small fee. What are some feasible alternatives to CF and
>SQL Server?[/color]

Free alternatives or feasible alternatives? If it has to be free,
you're doing the Open Source route.
[color=blue]
>Is ASP Apache comparable to ASP or ASP.NET?[/color]

Limited version of ASP, not even close on .NET.
[color=blue]
>Everything will run on a
>Lunix Server to keep cost down.[/color]

Then you aren't running IIS, you aren't completely running ASP and
you're posting in the wrong group.

Jeff

[Brett]

Re: Is Apache ASP similar to ASP?

jcochran.nospam @naplesgov.com (Jeff Cochran) wrote in message news:<40706cc6. 53981401@msnews .microsoft.com> ...[color=blue]
> On 4 Apr 2004 12:33:21 -0700, account@cygen.c om (Brett) wrote:
>[color=green]
> >I'm developing with CF 5 and SQL Server 2000. I think they are both
> >great products. The major draw is their cost. I don't develop stand
> >alone products because anyone that wants to purchase them must also
> >purchase CF Server and SQL Server. So I run them as a hosted service.
> >
> >MySQL is supposed to be free. If you are using this product, how do
> >you like it?[/color]
>
> Works fine, with a few idiosyncracies.
>[color=green]
> >What are you using for a front end?[/color]
>
> IIS/ASP and Apache/PHP/Perl
>[color=green]
> >I'd like to move toward developing software that some one can run on
> >their own webserver with the only cost being the software purchase.
> >That means the database and front end software need to be free (MySQL,
> >PHP, CGI). If the customer doesn't have these, they can download them
> >for free or small fee. What are some feasible alternatives to CF and
> >SQL Server?[/color]
>
> Free alternatives or feasible alternatives?[/color]
I don't want to give up to much be need something affordable. Perhaps
Windows (IIS) with Apache, MySQL and ASP/PHP/Perl is very affordable.
Anything that cuts out the high cost of MS SQL Server and Cold Fusion.
[color=blue]
> If it has to be free,
> you're doing the Open Source route.
>[color=green]
> >Is ASP Apache comparable to ASP or ASP.NET?[/color]
>
> Limited version of ASP, not even close on .NET.
>[color=green]
> >Everything will run on a
> >Lunix Server to keep cost down.[/color]
>
> Then you aren't running IIS, you aren't completely running ASP and
> you're posting in the wrong group.[/color]

You comment on ASP but above mention you are using PHP and Perl. Why
are you using all three?

BTW, do you consider development on Windows (IIS) better than Linux if
MySQL is being used?
[color=blue]
>
> Jeff[/color]

[Brett]

Re: Is Apache ASP similar to ASP?

Matt,

I'm starting to see that MySQL is a competitor to MS SQL Server and
Oracle. Why use PHP instead of Perl, Python, C++, or ASP?

Thanks,
Brett

"Matt Foster" <mattfoster@REM OVEblueyonder.c o.uk> wrote in message news:<OJZbc.273 1$xJ5.27149587@ news-text.cableinet. net>...[color=blue]
> Use PHP and MySQL ;)
>
>
>
> "Brett" <account@cygen. com> wrote in message
> news:c003b25a.0 404041133.4765b 6bd@posting.goo gle.com...[color=green]
> > I'm developing with CF 5 and SQL Server 2000. I think they are both
> > great products. The major draw is their cost. I don't develop stand
> > alone products because anyone that wants to purchase them must also
> > purchase CF Server and SQL Server. So I run them as a hosted service.
> >
> > MySQL is supposed to be free. If you are using this product, how do
> > you like it? What are you using for a front end?
> >
> > I'd like to move toward developing software that some one can run on
> > their own webserver with the only cost being the software purchase.
> > That means the database and front end software need to be free (MySQL,
> > PHP, CGI). If the customer doesn't have these, they can download them
> > for free or small fee. What are some feasible alternatives to CF and
> > SQL Server?
> >
> > Is ASP Apache comparable to ASP or ASP.NET? Everything will run on a
> > Lunix Server to keep cost down.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brett[/color][/color]

[Mark Schupp]

Re: Is Apache ASP similar to ASP?

You need to decide on a platform first.

If you must use Linux/Apache then ASP would be an extra add-on and it would
make more sense to use PHP or Perl.

If you decide to go with a Windows server then you will have IIS and ASP at
no additional cost and should probably use them (I don't see a lot of point
in buying a Windows server and then using Apache).

MySQL can be used with either Apache or IIS/ASP.

--
Mark Schupp
Head of Development
Integrity eLearning

https://www.ielearning.com

"Brett" <account@cygen. com> wrote in message
news:c003b25a.0 404041931.6dadb 02@posting.goog le.com...[color=blue]
> jcochran.nospam @naplesgov.com (Jeff Cochran) wrote in message[/color]
news:<40706cc6. 53981401@msnews .microsoft.com> ...[color=blue][color=green]
> > On 4 Apr 2004 12:33:21 -0700, account@cygen.c om (Brett) wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > >I'm developing with CF 5 and SQL Server 2000. I think they are both
> > >great products. The major draw is their cost. I don't develop stand
> > >alone products because anyone that wants to purchase them must also
> > >purchase CF Server and SQL Server. So I run them as a hosted service.
> > >
> > >MySQL is supposed to be free. If you are using this product, how do
> > >you like it?[/color]
> >
> > Works fine, with a few idiosyncracies.
> >[color=darkred]
> > >What are you using for a front end?[/color]
> >
> > IIS/ASP and Apache/PHP/Perl
> >[color=darkred]
> > >I'd like to move toward developing software that some one can run on
> > >their own webserver with the only cost being the software purchase.
> > >That means the database and front end software need to be free (MySQL,
> > >PHP, CGI). If the customer doesn't have these, they can download them
> > >for free or small fee. What are some feasible alternatives to CF and
> > >SQL Server?[/color]
> >
> > Free alternatives or feasible alternatives?[/color]
> I don't want to give up to much be need something affordable. Perhaps
> Windows (IIS) with Apache, MySQL and ASP/PHP/Perl is very affordable.
> Anything that cuts out the high cost of MS SQL Server and Cold Fusion.
>[color=green]
> > If it has to be free,
> > you're doing the Open Source route.
> >[color=darkred]
> > >Is ASP Apache comparable to ASP or ASP.NET?[/color]
> >
> > Limited version of ASP, not even close on .NET.
> >[color=darkred]
> > >Everything will run on a
> > >Lunix Server to keep cost down.[/color]
> >
> > Then you aren't running IIS, you aren't completely running ASP and
> > you're posting in the wrong group.[/color]
>
> You comment on ASP but above mention you are using PHP and Perl. Why
> are you using all three?
>
> BTW, do you consider development on Windows (IIS) better than Linux if
> MySQL is being used?
>[color=green]
> >
> > Jeff[/color][/color]

[Brett]

Re: Is Apache ASP similar to ASP?

"Mark Schupp" <mschupp@ielear ning.com> wrote in message news:<eNwTDayGE HA.3772@TK2MSFT NGP12.phx.gbl>. ..[color=blue]
> You need to decide on a platform first.
>
> If you must use Linux/Apache then ASP would be an extra add-on and it would
> make more sense to use PHP or Perl.
>
> If you decide to go with a Windows server then you will have IIS and ASP at
> no additional cost and should probably use them (I don't see a lot of point
> in buying a Windows server and then using Apache).[/color]

I agree and Windows with IIS will be the platform. Would there be any
reason to use Python over ASP? Google seems to think Python is a
great language and are seeking Python programmers. I don't have
enough knowledge of either to know.

What are reasons to use ASP over ASP.NET? Is there an additional cost
to use ASP.NET?


[color=blue]
> MySQL can be used with either Apache or IIS/ASP.
>
> --
> Mark Schupp
> Head of Development
> Integrity eLearning
> www.ielearning.com
>
>
> "Brett" <account@cygen. com> wrote in message
> news:c003b25a.0 404041931.6dadb 02@posting.goog le.com...[color=green]
> > jcochran.nospam @naplesgov.com (Jeff Cochran) wrote in message[/color]
> news:<40706cc6. 53981401@msnews .microsoft.com> ...[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > On 4 Apr 2004 12:33:21 -0700, account@cygen.c om (Brett) wrote:
> > >
> > > >I'm developing with CF 5 and SQL Server 2000. I think they are both
> > > >great products. The major draw is their cost. I don't develop stand
> > > >alone products because anyone that wants to purchase them must also
> > > >purchase CF Server and SQL Server. So I run them as a hosted service.
> > > >
> > > >MySQL is supposed to be free. If you are using this product, how do
> > > >you like it?
> > >
> > > Works fine, with a few idiosyncracies.
> > >
> > > >What are you using for a front end?
> > >
> > > IIS/ASP and Apache/PHP/Perl
> > >
> > > >I'd like to move toward developing software that some one can run on
> > > >their own webserver with the only cost being the software purchase.
> > > >That means the database and front end software need to be free (MySQL,
> > > >PHP, CGI). If the customer doesn't have these, they can download them
> > > >for free or small fee. What are some feasible alternatives to CF and
> > > >SQL Server?
> > >
> > > Free alternatives or feasible alternatives?[/color]
> > I don't want to give up to much be need something affordable. Perhaps
> > Windows (IIS) with Apache, MySQL and ASP/PHP/Perl is very affordable.
> > Anything that cuts out the high cost of MS SQL Server and Cold Fusion.
> >[color=darkred]
> > > If it has to be free,
> > > you're doing the Open Source route.
> > >
> > > >Is ASP Apache comparable to ASP or ASP.NET?
> > >
> > > Limited version of ASP, not even close on .NET.
> > >
> > > >Everything will run on a
> > > >Lunix Server to keep cost down.
> > >
> > > Then you aren't running IIS, you aren't completely running ASP and
> > > you're posting in the wrong group.[/color]
> >
> > You comment on ASP but above mention you are using PHP and Perl. Why
> > are you using all three?
> >
> > BTW, do you consider development on Windows (IIS) better than Linux if
> > MySQL is being used?
> >[color=darkred]
> > >
> > > Jeff[/color][/color][/color]

[Brett]

Re: Is Apache ASP similar to ASP?

"Matt Foster" <mattfoster@REM OVEblueyonder.c o.uk> wrote in message news:<OJZbc.273 1$xJ5.27149587@ news-text.cableinet. net>...[color=blue]
> Use PHP and MySQL ;)[/color]

Why not use ASP or even Python? Why do you like PHP?

[color=blue]
>
>
> "Brett" <account@cygen. com> wrote in message
> news:c003b25a.0 404041133.4765b 6bd@posting.goo gle.com...[color=green]
> > I'm developing with CF 5 and SQL Server 2000. I think they are both
> > great products. The major draw is their cost. I don't develop stand
> > alone products because anyone that wants to purchase them must also
> > purchase CF Server and SQL Server. So I run them as a hosted service.
> >
> > MySQL is supposed to be free. If you are using this product, how do
> > you like it? What are you using for a front end?
> >
> > I'd like to move toward developing software that some one can run on
> > their own webserver with the only cost being the software purchase.
> > That means the database and front end software need to be free (MySQL,
> > PHP, CGI). If the customer doesn't have these, they can download them
> > for free or small fee. What are some feasible alternatives to CF and
> > SQL Server?
> >
> > Is ASP Apache comparable to ASP or ASP.NET? Everything will run on a
> > Lunix Server to keep cost down.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brett[/color][/color]

[Brett]

Re: Is Apache ASP similar to ASP?

jcochran.nospam @naplesgov.com (Jeff Cochran) wrote in message news:<40706cc6. 53981401@msnews .microsoft.com> ...[color=blue]
> On 4 Apr 2004 12:33:21 -0700, account@cygen.c om (Brett) wrote:
>[color=green]
> >I'm developing with CF 5 and SQL Server 2000. I think they are both
> >great products. The major draw is their cost. I don't develop stand
> >alone products because anyone that wants to purchase them must also
> >purchase CF Server and SQL Server. So I run them as a hosted service.
> >
> >MySQL is supposed to be free. If you are using this product, how do
> >you like it?[/color]
>
> Works fine, with a few idiosyncracies.
>[color=green]
> >What are you using for a front end?[/color]
>
> IIS/ASP and Apache/PHP/Perl[/color]

Are you using IIS/ASP or Apache/PHP/Perl? Why?
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
> >I'd like to move toward developing software that some one can run on
> >their own webserver with the only cost being the software purchase.
> >That means the database and front end software need to be free (MySQL,
> >PHP, CGI). If the customer doesn't have these, they can download them
> >for free or small fee. What are some feasible alternatives to CF and
> >SQL Server?[/color]
>
> Free alternatives or feasible alternatives? If it has to be free,
> you're doing the Open Source route.
>[color=green]
> >Is ASP Apache comparable to ASP or ASP.NET?[/color]
>
> Limited version of ASP, not even close on .NET.
>[color=green]
> >Everything will run on a
> >Lunix Server to keep cost down.[/color]
>
> Then you aren't running IIS, you aren't completely running ASP and
> you're posting in the wrong group.
>
> Jeff[/color]