CDONTS.Send ignored

[Guest]

Re: CDONTS.Send ignored

Thanks, Ray.
The approach you are describing in that many words is well known as "Problem
Isolation" and of course, I have tried it while waiting comments from
colleagues in here.
CDONTS usage is well documented. I cut and pasted an example and run it
alone without any databases you mention - same result. Same about
Microsoft.XMLDO M
I do not think I need to post these examples for discussions in here, don't
I?



"Ray at <%=sLocation% >" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
news:eG3sY$U1DH A.1264@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> In order to help with this issue, you'd have to do some of your own[/color]
testing[color=blue]
> and debugging first. You said that you lots of lines of code in this[/color]
page.[color=blue]
> Chances are that 99% of it is irrelevant to your problem here. What steps
> have you taken to debug this? Have you thrown together a simple four line
> asp page that creates this object and executes the save method with some
> test data? You need to be able to mentally extract where the problem is[/color]
and[color=blue]
> work with that all on its own. If you have an asp page that collects form
> values, does some arithmetic operations on them, inserts the results into[/color]
a[color=blue]
> database, e-mails the results to a recipient, generates a log file with[/color]
the[color=blue]
> FSO, executes a shell command, and generates a pdf and the file is not[/color]
being[color=blue]
> created by the FSO (or whatever you're using), what you'd want to do is
> totally disregard all the other steps and just create a nice simple page
> that runs the same FSO commands with manually entered text. I don't know
> that I'm explaining this well, but it's hard to explain the steps to take[/color]
to[color=blue]
> debug something. YOu just have to sit back and think about it for a bit[/color]
and[color=blue]
> narrow down where the issue may be occurring and what the possible causes
> are. You won't be able to do this if you look at 1000 lines of code and
> think of it as just one step.
>
> Ray at work
>
> <aa> wrote in message news:%23PwXB5U1 DHA.2528@TK2MSF TNGP10.phx.gbl. ..[color=green]
> > I did and it made no difference
> >
> > "Ray at <%=sLocation% >" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
> > news:O7DARxU1DH A.2412@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> > > I stress that you really need to take out your On Error Resume Next
> > > statement (or move it around to different locations as needed)[/color][/color][/color]
whenever[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > you're trying to debug something.
> > >
> > > Ray at work
> > >
> > > <aa> wrote in message news:uo%23bkuU1 DHA.560@TK2MSFT NGP11.phx.gbl.. .
> > > > I have it indeed, but next to it goes
> > > >
> > > > If err.number <> 0 then
> > > > Response.write( "Errors occurred while saving your form
> > > > submission.")
> > > > Else
> > > > Response.write "The Order has been saved to " & fPath &". <a
> > > > href=/data/orders/" & fName &
> > > > ".xml><br/>View the Order as an XML file</a><p/>"
> > > > End If
> > > >
> > > > So I understand that I should have "Errors occurred while saving[/color][/color][/color]
your[color=blue][color=green]
> > form[color=darkred]
> > > > submission."
> > > > But I do have "The Order has been saved to" which means that[/color][/color]
> err.number[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > <>
> > > > 0
> > > > Yet no file was created
> > > >
> > > > But I was wrong in my previous message blaming FileSystemObjec t.
> > > > The file in question is supposed to be created by Microsoft.XMLDO M[/color]
> > object[color=darkred]
> > > > and
> > > > "ON ERROR RESUME NEXT" goes after
> > > > Set objDom = Server.CreateOb ject("Microsoft .XMLDOM")
> > > > some manipulations to form a file name and the path to place it[/color][/color][/color]
into[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > objDom.Save (path and file name)
> > > >
> > > > I stress, that it worked previously on ISP w2000 server and still[/color][/color]
> works[color=green]
> > on[color=darkred]
> > > > my local w2000
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_da rkfalz.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ux9KxLU1DH A.2972@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > You don't have an ON ERROR RESUME NEXT do you?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Curt Christianson
> > > > > Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
> > > > > www.Darkfalz.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > <aa> wrote in message[/color][/color]
> news:%23o9rEIU1 DHA.1740@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. ..[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > > It might be relevant - I've just discovered that the[/color]
> > FileSystemObjec t[color=darkred]
> > > on
> > > > > the
> > > > > > same w2k ISP server behaves the same way as CDONTS - produces no[/color]
> > error[color=darkred]
> > > > and
> > > > > > no result as if it is ignored.
> > > > > > It is supposed to create a file on the server, and although the[/color][/color]
> code[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > runs
> > > > > > without producing error messages, no file is created. It[/color][/color][/color]
obviously[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > worked
> > > > > > earlier and I still have several files streated previously.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is FileSystemObjec t, like CDONTS, also dependent on some other
> > > service
> > > > > > which might be disabled?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <aa> wrote in message[/color]
> > news:%235DM1aS1 DHA.4064@tk2msf tngp13.phx.gbl. ..[color=darkred]
> > > > > > > I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
> > > > > > > Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is
> > > > > completely
> > > > > > > ignored.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither[/color][/color][/color]
does[color=blue][color=green]
> > the[color=darkred]
> > > > rest
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > the code setting
> > > > > > > objCDONTS=Serve r.CreateObject( "CDONTS.NewMail ") and then
> > > manipulating
> > > > > its
> > > > > > > properties.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Guest]

Re: CDONTS.Send ignored

The problem of creating files, as any real problem, got sorted itself out.
Just a moment ago about 20 files which I tried to create fior the previous
three hours suddenly appeared where they were expected to appear.
I do not know where ther were delayed - I monitor the folder content using
and FTP programme.
Either the FTP did not see these files, or the server delayed placing the
file into the folder. One thin is for sure - the names of the files are made
of the date and the time they are created - and all these names exactly
metched the files' date and time

Still no sign of emails sent - perhaps they are too somewhere in the
pipeline - perhaps I should wait till tomorrow. Meanwhile thank you
everybody who replied.


<aa> wrote in message news:%23o9rEIU1 DHA.1740@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. ..[color=blue]
> It might be relevant - I've just discovered that the FileSystemObjec t on[/color]
the[color=blue]
> same w2k ISP server behaves the same way as CDONTS - produces no error and
> no result as if it is ignored.
> It is supposed to create a file on the server, and although the code runs
> without producing error messages, no file is created. It obviously worked
> earlier and I still have several files streated previously.
>
> Is FileSystemObjec t, like CDONTS, also dependent on some other service
> which might be disabled?
>
>
>
> <aa> wrote in message news:%235DM1aS1 DHA.4064@tk2msf tngp13.phx.gbl. ..[color=green]
> > I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
> > Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is[/color][/color]
completely[color=blue][color=green]
> > ignored.
> >
> > I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither does the rest[/color]
> of[color=green]
> > the code setting
> > objCDONTS=Serve r.CreateObject( "CDONTS.NewMail ") and then manipulating[/color][/color]
its[color=blue][color=green]
> > properties.
> >
> > Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Ray at]

Re: CDONTS.Send ignored

It certainly couldn't hurt to post the example code snippets here so that
others can execute the same code and post the results.

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:eOoXSaV1DH A.4060@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Thanks, Ray.
> The approach you are describing in that many words is well known as[/color]
"Problem[color=blue]
> Isolation" and of course, I have tried it while waiting comments from
> colleagues in here.
> CDONTS usage is well documented. I cut and pasted an example and run it
> alone without any databases you mention - same result. Same about
> Microsoft.XMLDO M
> I do not think I need to post these examples for discussions in here,[/color]
don't[color=blue]
> I?
>[/color]

[Guest]

Re: CDONTS.Send ignored

I have it indeed, but next to it goes

If err.number <> 0 then
Response.write( "Errors occurred while saving your form
submission.")
Else
Response.write "The Order has been saved to " & fPath &". <a
href=/data/orders/" & fName &
".xml><br/>View the Order as an XML file</a><p/>"
End If

So I understand that I should have "Errors occurred while saving your form
submission."
But I do have "The Order has been saved to" which means that err.number <>
0
Yet no file was created

But I was wrong in my previous message blaming FileSystemObjec t.
The file in question is supposed to be created by Microsoft.XMLDO M object
and
"ON ERROR RESUME NEXT" goes after
Set objDom = Server.CreateOb ject("Microsoft .XMLDOM")
some manipulations to form a file name and the path to place it into
objDom.Save (path and file name)

I stress, that it worked previously on ISP w2000 server and still works on
my local w2000




"Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_da rkfalz.com> wrote in message
news:ux9KxLU1DH A.2972@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> You don't have an ON ERROR RESUME NEXT do you?
>
> --
> Curt Christianson
> Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
> www.Darkfalz.com
>
>
> <aa> wrote in message news:%23o9rEIU1 DHA.1740@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. ..[color=green]
> > It might be relevant - I've just discovered that the FileSystemObjec t on[/color]
> the[color=green]
> > same w2k ISP server behaves the same way as CDONTS - produces no error[/color][/color]
and[color=blue][color=green]
> > no result as if it is ignored.
> > It is supposed to create a file on the server, and although the code[/color][/color]
runs[color=blue][color=green]
> > without producing error messages, no file is created. It obviously[/color][/color]
worked[color=blue][color=green]
> > earlier and I still have several files streated previously.
> >
> > Is FileSystemObjec t, like CDONTS, also dependent on some other service
> > which might be disabled?
> >
> >
> >
> > <aa> wrote in message news:%235DM1aS1 DHA.4064@tk2msf tngp13.phx.gbl. ..[color=darkred]
> > > I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
> > > Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is[/color][/color]
> completely[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > ignored.
> > >
> > > I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither does the[/color][/color][/color]
rest[color=blue][color=green]
> > of[color=darkred]
> > > the code setting
> > > objCDONTS=Serve r.CreateObject( "CDONTS.NewMail ") and then manipulating[/color][/color]
> its[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > properties.
> > >
> > > Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Ray at]

Re: CDONTS.Send ignored

I stress that you really need to take out your On Error Resume Next
statement (or move it around to different locations as needed) whenever
you're trying to debug something.

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:uo%23bkuU1 DHA.560@TK2MSFT NGP11.phx.gbl.. .[color=blue]
> I have it indeed, but next to it goes
>
> If err.number <> 0 then
> Response.write( "Errors occurred while saving your form
> submission.")
> Else
> Response.write "The Order has been saved to " & fPath &". <a
> href=/data/orders/" & fName &
> ".xml><br/>View the Order as an XML file</a><p/>"
> End If
>
> So I understand that I should have "Errors occurred while saving your form
> submission."
> But I do have "The Order has been saved to" which means that err.number[/color]
<>[color=blue]
> 0
> Yet no file was created
>
> But I was wrong in my previous message blaming FileSystemObjec t.
> The file in question is supposed to be created by Microsoft.XMLDO M object
> and
> "ON ERROR RESUME NEXT" goes after
> Set objDom = Server.CreateOb ject("Microsoft .XMLDOM")
> some manipulations to form a file name and the path to place it into
> objDom.Save (path and file name)
>
> I stress, that it worked previously on ISP w2000 server and still works on
> my local w2000
>
>
>
>
> "Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_da rkfalz.com> wrote in message
> news:ux9KxLU1DH A.2972@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > You don't have an ON ERROR RESUME NEXT do you?
> >
> > --
> > Curt Christianson
> > Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
> > www.Darkfalz.com
> >
> >
> > <aa> wrote in message news:%23o9rEIU1 DHA.1740@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. ..[color=darkred]
> > > It might be relevant - I've just discovered that the FileSystemObjec t[/color][/color][/color]
on[color=blue][color=green]
> > the[color=darkred]
> > > same w2k ISP server behaves the same way as CDONTS - produces no error[/color][/color]
> and[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > no result as if it is ignored.
> > > It is supposed to create a file on the server, and although the code[/color][/color]
> runs[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > without producing error messages, no file is created. It obviously[/color][/color]
> worked[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > earlier and I still have several files streated previously.
> > >
> > > Is FileSystemObjec t, like CDONTS, also dependent on some other[/color][/color][/color]
service[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > which might be disabled?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > <aa> wrote in message news:%235DM1aS1 DHA.4064@tk2msf tngp13.phx.gbl. ..
> > > > I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
> > > > Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is[/color]
> > completely[color=darkred]
> > > > ignored.
> > > >
> > > > I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither does the[/color][/color]
> rest[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > of
> > > > the code setting
> > > > objCDONTS=Serve r.CreateObject( "CDONTS.NewMail ") and then[/color][/color][/color]
manipulating[color=blue][color=green]
> > its[color=darkred]
> > > > properties.
> > > >
> > > > Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Guest]

Re: CDONTS.Send ignored

Ray,

I left come idea od what I am doing in my reply to Curt's question.
The whole code is quite long and seat in several .inc files therefore to
copy it here is not streightforward and probably will require time for you
to get its logic.
Is that sufficient for you to guess where should I be looking for an error
and I copy here relevant bit.

"Ray at <%=sLocation% >" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
news:uDjvfLU1DH A.3196@TK2MSFTN GP11.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Can you show your code that is not returning an error and also not doing
> what you expect it to do? There is something else going on here.
>
> Ray at work
>
> <aa> wrote in message news:%23o9rEIU1 DHA.1740@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. ..[color=green]
> > It might be relevant - I've just discovered that the FileSystemObjec t on[/color]
> the[color=green]
> > same w2k ISP server behaves the same way as CDONTS - produces no error[/color][/color]
and[color=blue][color=green]
> > no result as if it is ignored.
> > It is supposed to create a file on the server, and although the code[/color][/color]
runs[color=blue][color=green]
> > without producing error messages, no file is created. It obviously[/color][/color]
worked[color=blue][color=green]
> > earlier and I still have several files streated previously.
> >
> > Is FileSystemObjec t, like CDONTS, also dependent on some other service
> > which might be disabled?
> >
> >
> >
> > <aa> wrote in message news:%235DM1aS1 DHA.4064@tk2msf tngp13.phx.gbl. ..[color=darkred]
> > > I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
> > > Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is[/color][/color]
> completely[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > ignored.
> > >
> > > I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither does the[/color][/color][/color]
rest[color=blue][color=green]
> > of[color=darkred]
> > > the code setting
> > > objCDONTS=Serve r.CreateObject( "CDONTS.NewMail ") and then manipulating[/color][/color]
> its[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > properties.
> > >
> > > Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Guest]

Re: CDONTS.Send ignored

This makes sense, David.

I can change directories at my will as for security reasons my ISP created
only one directory with the writing permissions. So I have to stick to it.
As I mentioned, it worked OK 2 month ago.
It is possible, that the server changes its behavour in *some* folder?
Are you also saying that CDO does not cause similar problems.


"Dave Anderson" <GTSPXOESSGOQ@s pammotel.com> wrote in message
news:OXfigFV1DH A.2636@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> <aa> wrote:[color=green]
> >
> > I did and it made no difference[/color]
>
> Let me interject a comment here -- we have a server that exhibits this
> behavior in *some* folders, but not others. A quick fix can be simply
> creating a new folder and moving the script there. We have never devoted
> much effort to determining the cause, however, as it gave us reason to[/color]
move[color=blue]
> to CDO.
>
>
> --
> Dave Anderson
>
> Unsolicited commercial email will be read at a cost of $500 per message.[/color]
Use[color=blue]
> of this email address implies consent to these terms. Please do not[/color]
contact[color=blue]
> me directly or ask me to contact you directly for assistance. If your
> question is worth asking, it's worth posting.
>
>[/color]

[Guest]

Re: CDONTS.Send ignored

Thanks, Curt, it was the most useful.
On my local PC all my messages are there, so as Ray suggested, I have to
look at SMTP.
Obviously I cannot check these folders on my ISP server. Perhaps they
changed SMTP settings


"Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_da rkfalz.com> wrote in message
news:%23xbewCU1 DHA.2456@TK2MSF TNGP12.phx.gbl. ..[color=blue]
> CDONTS is not the same thing as SMTP
> CDONTS is an interface TO the SMTP service.
> Look in your c:\inetpub\mail root folder tree for the message(s) you wrote.
> If they are in there then CDONTS did it's part and SMTP isn't confiugred
> right.
>
> --
> Curt Christianson
> Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
> www.Darkfalz.com
>
>
> <aa> wrote in message news:%23qR6H7T1 DHA.2324@TK2MSF TNGP09.phx.gbl. ..[color=green]
> > So the problem should be with SMTP, as Ray suggested
> >
> > Also it means that on a local PC is is not supposed to work without SMTP
> > tuning, unless it gets installed and tuned by default during[/color][/color]
installation[color=blue][color=green]
> > of w2k Pro -does it?
> >
> > "Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_da rkfalz.com> wrote in message
> > news:O3vg$ZT1DH A.1744@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> > > Up through Win2k it was included. It's now gone from the OS.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Curt Christianson
> > > Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
> > > www.Darkfalz.com
> > >
> > >
> > > <aa> wrote in message news:uWgF2XT1DH A.2636@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > Thanks, I'll try.
> > > > But one thing puzzles me - in one plase your resouce says CDONTS is
> > > > depricated and not shipped with Windows, whereas in another place is[/color]
> > said[color=darkred]
> > > > that it is suppoerted by w2000 and is included in OS
> > > >
> > > > As it does not cause error, I suppose it is included in 2000
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <anonymous@disc ussions.microso ft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:09f701c3d5 28$d0860cc0$a50 1280a@phx.gbl.. .
> > > > >
> > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
> > > > > >Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like
> > > > > objCDONTS.Send is completely
> > > > > >ignored.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I think is it ignored because it throws no errors,
> > > > > neither does the rest of
> > > > > >the code setting
> > > > > >objCDONTS=Serv er.CreateObject ("CDONTS.NewMai l") and then
> > > > > manipulating its
> > > > > >properties.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send
> > > > > work?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >.
> > > > > >
> > > > > If on Win 2000 use cdo. See this
> > > > > http://www.aspfaq.com/show.asp?id=2026
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH
> > > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Guest]

Re: CDONTS.Send ignored

It turns out that you were right about SMTP, at least in respect of my local
PC.

I followed SMTP link you offered and found a good MS SMTP Help file.
The proble is it is so good and detailed that to study it is a separate
project.
My concern is, whether OutlookExpress which is working fine for the moment,
relies on SMTP settings.
if I start experimenting with SMTP, is there a chanse of OutlookExpress
prtests and go on strike?



"Ray at <%=sLocation% >" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
news:%239gQMkS1 DHA.3224@tk2msf tngp13.phx.gbl. ..[color=blue]
> What makes you think it's being ignored? If it's because you didn't[/color]
receive[color=blue]
> an e-mail, look into issues with SMTP. All that CDONTS does is generate a
> text file in e-mail format and put it in the SMTP server's pickup[/color]
directory.[color=blue]
> From that point on, it's up to SMTP to send the e-mail.
>
> Ray at work
>
> <aa> wrote in message news:%235DM1aS1 DHA.4064@tk2msf tngp13.phx.gbl. ..[color=green]
> > I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
> > Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is[/color][/color]
completely[color=blue][color=green]
> > ignored.
> >
> > I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither does the rest[/color]
> of[color=green]
> > the code setting
> > objCDONTS=Serve r.CreateObject( "CDONTS.NewMail ") and then manipulating[/color][/color]
its[color=blue][color=green]
> > properties.
> >
> > Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Ray at]

Re: CDONTS.Send ignored

Chances are that you use your ISP's SMTP server in OE, not your own internal
one. So, if that's the case, no, it won't affect OE.

Ray at home

<aa> wrote in message news:uEqnU5c1DH A.2396@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> It turns out that you were right about SMTP, at least in respect of my[/color]
local[color=blue]
> PC.
>
> I followed SMTP link you offered and found a good MS SMTP Help file.
> The proble is it is so good and detailed that to study it is a separate
> project.
> My concern is, whether OutlookExpress which is working fine for the[/color]
moment,[color=blue]
> relies on SMTP settings.
> if I start experimenting with SMTP, is there a chanse of OutlookExpress
> prtests and go on strike?[/color]

[Guest]

Re: CDONTS.Send ignored

Thanks
How can I check if I use my ISP's SMTP server in OE ?

"Ray at <%=sLocation% >" <myFirstNameATl ane34dotKOMM> wrote in message
news:eAiz9Xe1DH A.536@tk2msftng p13.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Chances are that you use your ISP's SMTP server in OE, not your own[/color]
internal[color=blue]
> one. So, if that's the case, no, it won't affect OE.
>
> Ray at home
>
> <aa> wrote in message news:uEqnU5c1DH A.2396@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > It turns out that you were right about SMTP, at least in respect of my[/color]
> local[color=green]
> > PC.
> >
> > I followed SMTP link you offered and found a good MS SMTP Help file.
> > The proble is it is so good and detailed that to study it is a separate
> > project.
> > My concern is, whether OutlookExpress which is working fine for the[/color]
> moment,[color=green]
> > relies on SMTP settings.
> > if I start experimenting with SMTP, is there a chanse of OutlookExpress
> > prtests and go on strike?[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Ray at]

Re: CDONTS.Send ignored

Tools--Accounts....... ......

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:u1dcw4e1DH A.3416@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> Thanks
> How can I check if I use my ISP's SMTP server in OE ?
>
> "Ray at <%=sLocation% >" <myFirstNameATl ane34dotKOMM> wrote in message
> news:eAiz9Xe1DH A.536@tk2msftng p13.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > Chances are that you use your ISP's SMTP server in OE, not your own[/color]
> internal[color=green]
> > one. So, if that's the case, no, it won't affect OE.
> >
> > Ray at home
> >
> > <aa> wrote in message news:uEqnU5c1DH A.2396@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> > > It turns out that you were right about SMTP, at least in respect of my[/color]
> > local[color=darkred]
> > > PC.
> > >
> > > I followed SMTP link you offered and found a good MS SMTP Help file.
> > > The proble is it is so good and detailed that to study it is a[/color][/color][/color]
separate[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > project.
> > > My concern is, whether OutlookExpress which is working fine for the[/color]
> > moment,[color=darkred]
> > > relies on SMTP settings.
> > > if I start experimenting with SMTP, is there a chanse of[/color][/color][/color]
OutlookExpress[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > prtests and go on strike?[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Guest]

Re: CDONTS.Send ignored

Do you mean that if in
Outgoing Mails (SMTP) I have the address of my provider, this means that I
am using the ISP's SMTP ?


"Ray at <%=sLocation% >" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
news:OMZLg%23e1 DHA.3220@tk2msf tngp13.phx.gbl. ..[color=blue]
> Tools--Accounts....... ......
>
> Ray at work
>
> <aa> wrote in message news:u1dcw4e1DH A.3416@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=green]
> > Thanks
> > How can I check if I use my ISP's SMTP server in OE ?
> >
> > "Ray at <%=sLocation% >" <myFirstNameATl ane34dotKOMM> wrote in message
> > news:eAiz9Xe1DH A.536@tk2msftng p13.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> > > Chances are that you use your ISP's SMTP server in OE, not your own[/color]
> > internal[color=darkred]
> > > one. So, if that's the case, no, it won't affect OE.
> > >
> > > Ray at home
> > >
> > > <aa> wrote in message news:uEqnU5c1DH A.2396@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > It turns out that you were right about SMTP, at least in respect of[/color][/color][/color]
my[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > local
> > > > PC.
> > > >
> > > > I followed SMTP link you offered and found a good MS SMTP Help file.
> > > > The proble is it is so good and detailed that to study it is a[/color][/color]
> separate[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > project.
> > > > My concern is, whether OutlookExpress which is working fine for the
> > > moment,
> > > > relies on SMTP settings.
> > > > if I start experimenting with SMTP, is there a chanse of[/color][/color]
> OutlookExpress[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > prtests and go on strike?
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Ray at]

Re: CDONTS.Send ignored

No, your e-mail address means nothing and does not tell you what your POP
and SMTP settings are. See your ISP's FAQs. For example, if you use
Verizon DSL,
http://onlinehelp.verizon.net/SRVS/C...xi=1,case=2372.

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:%23XsrShf1 DHA.2888@tk2msf tngp13.phx.gbl. ..[color=blue]
> Do you mean that if in
> Outgoing Mails (SMTP) I have the address of my provider, this means that I
> am using the ISP's SMTP ?
>
>
> "Ray at <%=sLocation% >" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
> news:OMZLg%23e1 DHA.3220@tk2msf tngp13.phx.gbl. ..[color=green]
> > Tools--Accounts....... ......
> >
> > Ray at work
> >
> > <aa> wrote in message news:u1dcw4e1DH A.3416@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...[color=darkred]
> > > Thanks
> > > How can I check if I use my ISP's SMTP server in OE ?
> > >
> > > "Ray at <%=sLocation% >" <myFirstNameATl ane34dotKOMM> wrote in message
> > > news:eAiz9Xe1DH A.536@tk2msftng p13.phx.gbl...
> > > > Chances are that you use your ISP's SMTP server in OE, not your own
> > > internal
> > > > one. So, if that's the case, no, it won't affect OE.
> > > >
> > > > Ray at home
> > > >
> > > > <aa> wrote in message news:uEqnU5c1DH A.2396@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > It turns out that you were right about SMTP, at least in respect[/color][/color][/color]
of[color=blue]
> my[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > local
> > > > > PC.
> > > > >
> > > > > I followed SMTP link you offered and found a good MS SMTP Help[/color][/color][/color]
file.[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > The proble is it is so good and detailed that to study it is a[/color]
> > separate[color=darkred]
> > > > > project.
> > > > > My concern is, whether OutlookExpress which is working fine for[/color][/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > moment,
> > > > > relies on SMTP settings.
> > > > > if I start experimenting with SMTP, is there a chanse of[/color]
> > OutlookExpress[color=darkred]
> > > > > prtests and go on strike?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

[Guest]

Re: CDONTS.Send ignored

Ray,
I am talking about my ISP SMTP server address like
mail.microsoft. com
which is shown in Outgoing Mails (SMTP), not about my email address.




"Ray at <%=sLocation% >" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
news:e8dKmvf1DH A.2480@TK2MSFTN GP10.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> No, your e-mail address means nothing and does not tell you what your POP
> and SMTP settings are. See your ISP's FAQs. For example, if you use
> Verizon DSL,
>[/color]
http://onlinehelp.verizon.net/SRVS/C...xi=1,case=2372.[color=blue]
>
> Ray at work
>
> <aa> wrote in message news:%23XsrShf1 DHA.2888@tk2msf tngp13.phx.gbl. ..[color=green]
> > Do you mean that if in
> > Outgoing Mails (SMTP) I have the address of my provider, this means that[/color][/color]
I[color=blue][color=green]
> > am using the ISP's SMTP ?
> >
> >
> > "Ray at <%=sLocation% >" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
> > news:OMZLg%23e1 DHA.3220@tk2msf tngp13.phx.gbl. ..[color=darkred]
> > > Tools--Accounts....... ......
> > >
> > > Ray at work
> > >
> > > <aa> wrote in message news:u1dcw4e1DH A.3416@tk2msftn gp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > Thanks
> > > > How can I check if I use my ISP's SMTP server in OE ?
> > > >
> > > > "Ray at <%=sLocation% >" <myFirstNameATl ane34dotKOMM> wrote in[/color][/color][/color]
message[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > news:eAiz9Xe1DH A.536@tk2msftng p13.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Chances are that you use your ISP's SMTP server in OE, not your[/color][/color][/color]
own[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > internal
> > > > > one. So, if that's the case, no, it won't affect OE.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ray at home
> > > > >
> > > > > <aa> wrote in message[/color][/color][/color]
news:uEqnU5c1DH A.2396@TK2MSFTN GP09.phx.gbl...[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > > It turns out that you were right about SMTP, at least in respect[/color][/color]
> of[color=green]
> > my[color=darkred]
> > > > > local
> > > > > > PC.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I followed SMTP link you offered and found a good MS SMTP Help[/color][/color]
> file.[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > > The proble is it is so good and detailed that to study it is a
> > > separate
> > > > > > project.
> > > > > > My concern is, whether OutlookExpress which is working fine for[/color][/color]
> the[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > > > moment,
> > > > > > relies on SMTP settings.
> > > > > > if I start experimenting with SMTP, is there a chanse of
> > > OutlookExpress
> > > > > > prtests and go on strike?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]