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  • anthony

    Access Developers Handbook

    Latest edition seems to be Access 2002. Is that relevant enough to
    2007 to justify the money?
  • bcap

    #2
    Re: Access Developers Handbook

    Yes.

    "anthony" <anthony.marria n@gmail.comwrot e in message
    news:00ece1c2-9708-4aff-ad47-71aae9716428@2g 2000hsn.googleg roups.com...
    Latest edition seems to be Access 2002. Is that relevant enough to
    2007 to justify the money?

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    • Steve

      #3
      Re: Access Developers Handbook

      $9.99 here:


      Steve


      "anthony" <anthony.marria n@gmail.comwrot e in message
      news:00ece1c2-9708-4aff-ad47-71aae9716428@2g 2000hsn.googleg roups.com...
      Latest edition seems to be Access 2002. Is that relevant enough to
      2007 to justify the money?

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      • Chris O'C via AccessMonster.com

        #4
        Re: Access Developers Handbook

        It's well worth the money if you plan to build apps beyond what the wizards
        do. If you only plan wizard stuff and macros, you don't need books.

        Chris
        Microsoft MVP


        anthony wrote:
        >Latest edition seems to be Access 2002. Is that relevant enough to
        >2007 to justify the money?
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        • anthony

          #5
          Re: Access Developers Handbook

          On 24 Jul, 15:50, "Chris O'C via AccessMonster.c om" <u29189@uwe>
          wrote:
          It's well worth the money if you plan to build apps beyond what the wizards
          do.  If you only plan wizard stuff and macros, you don't need books.
          >
          Chris
          Microsoft MVP
          >
          anthony wrote:
          Latest edition seems to be Access 2002. Is that relevant enough to
          2007 to justify the money?
          >
          --
          Message posted via AccessMonster.c omhttp://www.accessmonst er.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/databases-ms-access/2008...
          Amazingly, I managed to find a second hand copy for £12! I wish I did
          only do wizard/macro stuff; I wouldn't get myself into so much
          trouble! TVM

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          • Larry Linson

            #6
            Re: Access Developers Handbook

            "anthony" <anthony.marria n@gmail.comwrot e
            Latest edition seems to be Access 2002. Is that
            relevant enough to 2007 to justify the money?
            Especially in the user interface, there is a lot new that will not, of
            course, be covered. I was in hopes that there would be an Access 2007
            edition, and at least one of the authors had similar hopes, but apparently
            Symantec was not interested in producing an updated edition.

            Larry Linson
            Microsoft Office Access MVP


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            • bcap

              #7
              Re: Access Developers Handbook


              "Larry Linson" <bouncer@localh ost.notwrote in message
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              "anthony" <anthony.marria n@gmail.comwrot e
              >
              Latest edition seems to be Access 2002. Is that
              relevant enough to 2007 to justify the money?
              >
              Especially in the user interface, there is a lot new that will not, of
              course, be covered. I was in hopes that there would be an Access 2007
              edition, and at least one of the authors had similar hopes, but apparently
              Symantec was not interested in producing an updated edition.
              >
              Larry Linson
              Microsoft Office Access MVP
              >
              Surely Sybex, Larry? But that's disappointing news, anyway. I guess that,
              given the price of the book, the level at which it's pitched, and the fact
              that the 2000 and 2002 versions were so close together, sales can't have
              been that great. But, with it being 6 years now since an update, one would
              hope it would be worth it for them.


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              • Larry Linson

                #8
                Re: Access Developers Handbook

                Yes, "Sybex", not "Symantec". Fingers faster than brain on the publisher...

                It's also possible that someone at Sybex was talking to someone at Microsoft
                who pointed out Microsoft's end-user emphasis for all Office, and the Sybex
                person took it to heart that a "Developer" book wouldn't be well-received.
                The previous versions of ADH would prove to be, I think, the
                most-recommended publication in all the Access newsgroups, if statistics
                were gathered.

                Larry Linson
                Microsoft Office Access MVP

                "bcap" <bcap@nospam.no wherewrote in message
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                >
                "Larry Linson" <bouncer@localh ost.notwrote in message
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                >"anthony" <anthony.marria n@gmail.comwrot e
                >>
                Latest edition seems to be Access 2002. Is that
                relevant enough to 2007 to justify the money?
                >>
                >Especially in the user interface, there is a lot new that will not, of
                >course, be covered. I was in hopes that there would be an Access 2007
                >edition, and at least one of the authors had similar hopes, but
                >apparently Symantec was not interested in producing an updated edition.
                >>
                >Larry Linson
                >Microsoft Office Access MVP
                >>
                >
                Surely Sybex, Larry? But that's disappointing news, anyway. I guess
                that, given the price of the book, the level at which it's pitched, and
                the fact that the 2000 and 2002 versions were so close together, sales
                can't have been that great. But, with it being 6 years now since an
                update, one would hope it would be worth it for them.
                >

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                • CDMAPoster@fortunejames.com

                  #9
                  Re: Access Developers Handbook

                  On Jul 29, 8:19 pm, "Larry Linson" <boun...@localh ost.notwrote:
                  Yes, "Sybex", not "Symantec". Fingers faster than brain on the publisher....
                  >
                  It's also possible that someone at Sybex was talking to someone at Microsoft
                  who pointed out Microsoft's end-user emphasis for all Office, and the Sybex
                  person took it to heart that a "Developer" book wouldn't be well-received..
                  Do you mean that Microsoft thought that it would be so simple for the
                  end-user with A2K7 that they wouldn't need a book and convinced Sybex
                  that there would be no demand for one? I don't have much need for
                  most Access books anymore, but that made my day.

                  James A. Fortune
                  CDMAPoster@Fort uneJames.com

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                  • The Frog

                    #10
                    Re: Access Developers Handbook

                    Perhaps the guys at Sybex were fearing that newsgroups like this one
                    were going to destroy their market?

                    The Frog

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                    • Larry Linson

                      #11
                      Re: Access Developers Handbook


                      "The Frog" <Mr.Frog.to.you @googlemail.com wrote in message
                      news:c5cc9eda-32f9-4f68-9f0e-90851eede1cc@8g 2000hse.googleg roups.com...
                      Perhaps the guys at Sybex were fearing that newsgroups like this one
                      were going to destroy their market?
                      Ah, good day, Mr.Frog.

                      Interesting... my observation is that no book has been more often
                      recommended in the Access newsgroup than the Access Developers Handbook.
                      I'd think that the the newsgroups, far from destroying it, "contribute d to
                      their market" -- of course it was the "heavy lifting" that Litwin, Getz, and
                      other authors of various editions did that really sold the book (and were
                      the reason that so many of us recommended it).

                      Larry Linson
                      Microsoft Office Access MVP


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                      • Larry Linson

                        #12
                        Re: Access Developers Handbook

                        There were people who were so "into" the "Office is software for the
                        Information Worker" theme, that it's possible they might have convinced
                        someone -- "end user only, no one will want a developer-oriented book for
                        that". My point to 'Softies was that the "elusive information worker"
                        ranged, depending on the point someone was trying to argue, somewhere from
                        "a raw, barely computer-literate, truly uneducated, perhaps a little
                        thick-headed, novice user" to a "power user who knows the product like the
                        hairs on the back of their hand, but who never, ever would lower {raise?}
                        themselves to writing a single line of VBA".

                        Larry Linson
                        Microsoft Office Access MVP


                        <CDMAPoster@for tunejames.comwr ote in message
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                        On Jul 29, 8:19 pm, "Larry Linson" <boun...@localh ost.notwrote:
                        Yes, "Sybex", not "Symantec". Fingers faster than brain on the
                        publisher...
                        >
                        It's also possible that someone at Sybex was talking to someone at
                        Microsoft
                        who pointed out Microsoft's end-user emphasis for all Office, and the
                        Sybex
                        person took it to heart that a "Developer" book wouldn't be well-received.
                        Do you mean that Microsoft thought that it would be so simple for the
                        end-user with A2K7 that they wouldn't need a book and convinced Sybex
                        that there would be no demand for one? I don't have much need for
                        most Access books anymore, but that made my day.

                        James A. Fortune
                        CDMAPoster@Fort uneJames.com


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