On 24 Jul, 15:50, "Chris O'C via AccessMonster.c om" <u29189@uwe>
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It's well worth the money if you plan to build apps beyond what the wizards
do. If you only plan wizard stuff and macros, you don't need books.
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Chris
Microsoft MVP
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anthony wrote:
Latest edition seems to be Access 2002. Is that relevant enough to
2007 to justify the money?
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Amazingly, I managed to find a second hand copy for £12! I wish I did
only do wizard/macro stuff; I wouldn't get myself into so much
trouble! TVM
Latest edition seems to be Access 2002. Is that
relevant enough to 2007 to justify the money?
Especially in the user interface, there is a lot new that will not, of
course, be covered. I was in hopes that there would be an Access 2007
edition, and at least one of the authors had similar hopes, but apparently
Symantec was not interested in producing an updated edition.
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Latest edition seems to be Access 2002. Is that
relevant enough to 2007 to justify the money?
>
Especially in the user interface, there is a lot new that will not, of
course, be covered. I was in hopes that there would be an Access 2007
edition, and at least one of the authors had similar hopes, but apparently
Symantec was not interested in producing an updated edition.
>
Larry Linson
Microsoft Office Access MVP
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Surely Sybex, Larry? But that's disappointing news, anyway. I guess that,
given the price of the book, the level at which it's pitched, and the fact
that the 2000 and 2002 versions were so close together, sales can't have
been that great. But, with it being 6 years now since an update, one would
hope it would be worth it for them.
Yes, "Sybex", not "Symantec". Fingers faster than brain on the publisher...
It's also possible that someone at Sybex was talking to someone at Microsoft
who pointed out Microsoft's end-user emphasis for all Office, and the Sybex
person took it to heart that a "Developer" book wouldn't be well-received.
The previous versions of ADH would prove to be, I think, the
most-recommended publication in all the Access newsgroups, if statistics
were gathered.
Larry Linson
Microsoft Office Access MVP
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>"anthony" <anthony.marria n@gmail.comwrot e
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Latest edition seems to be Access 2002. Is that
relevant enough to 2007 to justify the money?
>>
>Especially in the user interface, there is a lot new that will not, of
>course, be covered. I was in hopes that there would be an Access 2007
>edition, and at least one of the authors had similar hopes, but
>apparently Symantec was not interested in producing an updated edition.
>>
>Larry Linson
>Microsoft Office Access MVP
>>
>
Surely Sybex, Larry? But that's disappointing news, anyway. I guess
that, given the price of the book, the level at which it's pitched, and
the fact that the 2000 and 2002 versions were so close together, sales
can't have been that great. But, with it being 6 years now since an
update, one would hope it would be worth it for them.
>
On Jul 29, 8:19 pm, "Larry Linson" <boun...@localh ost.notwrote:
Yes, "Sybex", not "Symantec". Fingers faster than brain on the publisher....
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It's also possible that someone at Sybex was talking to someone at Microsoft
who pointed out Microsoft's end-user emphasis for all Office, and the Sybex
person took it to heart that a "Developer" book wouldn't be well-received..
Do you mean that Microsoft thought that it would be so simple for the
end-user with A2K7 that they wouldn't need a book and convinced Sybex
that there would be no demand for one? I don't have much need for
most Access books anymore, but that made my day.
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Perhaps the guys at Sybex were fearing that newsgroups like this one
were going to destroy their market?
Ah, good day, Mr.Frog.
Interesting... my observation is that no book has been more often
recommended in the Access newsgroup than the Access Developers Handbook.
I'd think that the the newsgroups, far from destroying it, "contribute d to
their market" -- of course it was the "heavy lifting" that Litwin, Getz, and
other authors of various editions did that really sold the book (and were
the reason that so many of us recommended it).
There were people who were so "into" the "Office is software for the
Information Worker" theme, that it's possible they might have convinced
someone -- "end user only, no one will want a developer-oriented book for
that". My point to 'Softies was that the "elusive information worker"
ranged, depending on the point someone was trying to argue, somewhere from
"a raw, barely computer-literate, truly uneducated, perhaps a little
thick-headed, novice user" to a "power user who knows the product like the
hairs on the back of their hand, but who never, ever would lower {raise?}
themselves to writing a single line of VBA".
Larry Linson
Microsoft Office Access MVP
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On Jul 29, 8:19 pm, "Larry Linson" <boun...@localh ost.notwrote:
Yes, "Sybex", not "Symantec". Fingers faster than brain on the
publisher...
>
It's also possible that someone at Sybex was talking to someone at
Microsoft
who pointed out Microsoft's end-user emphasis for all Office, and the
Sybex
person took it to heart that a "Developer" book wouldn't be well-received.
Do you mean that Microsoft thought that it would be so simple for the
end-user with A2K7 that they wouldn't need a book and convinced Sybex
that there would be no demand for one? I don't have much need for
most Access books anymore, but that made my day.
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