Anyone have a recommendation for a good inexpensive or free utility for
developing table schemas.
developing table schemas.
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A utility to develop table schemas?
If ou are looking for suggestions on how to design schemas for a variety of
needs, this might be useful:
In general, though, you only go go the trouble of creating a custom database
if there is no off-the-shelf solution. Therefore the bespoke Access
databases you create all have unique needs, and cannot be designed by a
utility.
--
Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP. Perth, Western Australia.
Tips for Access users - http://allenbrowne.com/tips.html
Reply to group, rather than allenbrowne at mvps dot org.
"Neil" <nospam@nospam. netwrote in message
news:4ju2h.1629 $l25.515@newsre ad4.news.pas.ea rthlink.net...Anyone have a recommendation for a good inexpensive or free utility for
developing table schemas.
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what do you want to do.. print schemas?
export schemas to word?
I would reccomend keeping an eye on www.gliffy.com it is a free online
visio-killer
Neil wrote:Anyone have a recommendation for a good inexpensive or free utility for
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When I have seen questions concerning complex logic on newsgroups I have
wished for a sketchpad where I could draw a flowchart. Other times I have
longed to be able to share a relationship diagram. This looks like a
possible answer. I would like to hear more expert views on this.
<susiedba@hotma il.comwrote in message
news:1162516728 .249225.47180@i 42g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...what do you want to do.. print schemas?
export schemas to word?
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I would reccomend keeping an eye on www.gliffy.com it is a free online
visio-killer
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Neil wrote:>>Anyone have a recommendation for a good inexpensive or free utility for
>developing table schemas.
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"David F Cox" <nospam@please. comwrote in message
news:%23Xpguzy$ GHA.4212@TK2MSF TNGP02.phx.gbl. ..How would that be displayed in a non HTML reader like OE? I think I'd beWhen I have seen questions concerning complex logic on newsgroups I have
wished for a sketchpad where I could draw a flowchart. Other times I have
longed to be able to share a relationship diagram. This looks like a
possible answer. I would like to hear more expert views on this.
>
tempted to upload my sketch to a web space and provide a link to it.
Regards,
Keith.
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Keith Wilby wrote:
Outlook Express is a non-HTML reader?How would that be displayed in a non HTML reader like OE?
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I meant just a tool for playing with table designs and providing a graphical
interface/printing utility, not one that would do the designing work for me.
I want to be able to design the tables manually, set up relationships, and
print the schemas, without creating the tables, and then create the tables
once I'm done with all the design work. Seems that such a utility exists.
"Allen Browne" <AllenBrowne@Se eSig.Invalidwro te in message
news:O49hbGu$GH A.4328@TK2MSFTN GP03.phx.gbl...>A utility to develop table schemas?
>
If ou are looking for suggestions on how to design schemas for a variety
of needs, this might be useful:
>
In general, though, you only go go the trouble of creating a custom
database if there is no off-the-shelf solution. Therefore the bespoke
Access databases you create all have unique needs, and cannot be designed
by a utility.
>
--
Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP. Perth, Western Australia.
Tips for Access users - http://allenbrowne.com/tips.html
Reply to group, rather than allenbrowne at mvps dot org.
>
"Neil" <nospam@nospam. netwrote in message
news:4ju2h.1629 $l25.515@newsre ad4.news.pas.ea rthlink.net...>>Anyone have a recommendation for a good inexpensive or free utility for
>developing table schemas.
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Neil wrote:Might be, but I find small yellow stickies (post it notes) work greatI meant just a tool for playing with table designs and providing a graphical
interface/printing utility, not one that would do the designing work for me.
I want to be able to design the tables manually, set up relationships, and
print the schemas, without creating the tables, and then create the tables
once I'm done with all the design work. Seems that such a utility exists.
when conceptualizing a design. It's certainly possible I'm in the dark
ages, though.
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me
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"Lyle Fairfield" <lylefairfield@ aim.comwrote in message
news:1162556128 .136398.114690@ b28g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .OK fair enough, but it's generally "accepted" practice to post in plain textKeith Wilby wrote:
>>>How would that be displayed in a non HTML reader like OE?
Outlook Express is a non-HTML reader?
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isn't it?
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Re: Utility for Table Schemas
I believe Microsoft's Visio might do what you want.
"Tim Marshall" <TIMMY!@PurpleP andaChasers.Moe rtheriumwrote in message
news:eimp8a$tjr $1@coranto.ucs. mun.ca...Neil wrote:>>I meant just a tool for playing with table designs and providing a
>graphical interface/printing utility, not one that would do the designing
>work for me. I want to be able to design the tables manually, set up
>relationship s, and print the schemas, without creating the tables, and
>then create the tables once I'm done with all the design work. Seems that
>such a utility exists.
Might be, but I find small yellow stickies (post it notes) work great when
conceptualizing a design. It's certainly possible I'm in the dark ages,
though.
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me
>
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You can do this in Excel.
"Neil" <nospam@nospam. netwrote in message
news:MBz3h.3493 $ig4.705@newsre ad2.news.pas.ea rthlink.net...>I meant just a tool for playing with table designs and providing a
>graphical interface/printing utility, not one that would do the designing
>work for me. I want to be able to design the tables manually, set up
>relationship s, and print the schemas, without creating the tables, and then
>create the tables once I'm done with all the design work. Seems that such a
>utility exists.
>
>
"Allen Browne" <AllenBrowne@Se eSig.Invalidwro te in message
news:O49hbGu$GH A.4328@TK2MSFTN GP03.phx.gbl...>>>A utility to develop table schemas?
>>
>If ou are looking for suggestions on how to design schemas for a variety
>of needs, this might be useful:
> http://www.databaseanswers.com/data_models/index.htm
>>
>In general, though, you only go go the trouble of creating a custom
>database if there is no off-the-shelf solution. Therefore the bespoke
>Access databases you create all have unique needs, and cannot be designed
>by a utility.
>>
>--
>Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP. Perth, Western Australia.
>Tips for Access users - http://allenbrowne.com/tips.html
>Reply to group, rather than allenbrowne at mvps dot org.
>>
>"Neil" <nospam@nospam. netwrote in message
>news:4ju2h.162 9$l25.515@newsr ead4.news.pas.e arthlink.net...>>>>Anyone have a recommendation for a good inexpensive or free utility for
>>developing table schemas.
>>
>
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Yes, I can list tables and fields in Excel; but I'd like to visually
display table relationships and joins. Surely there must be a tool out there
that does this.
"Karl" <someone@sbcglo bal.bizwrote in message
news:nMJ3h.6245 $B31.5258@newss vr27.news.prodi gy.net...You can do this in Excel.
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"Neil" <nospam@nospam. netwrote in message
news:MBz3h.3493 $ig4.705@newsre ad2.news.pas.ea rthlink.net...>>>I meant just a tool for playing with table designs and providing a
>>graphical interface/printing utility, not one that would do the designing
>>work for me. I want to be able to design the tables manually, set up
>>relationships , and print the schemas, without creating the tables, and
>>then create the tables once I'm done with all the design work. Seems that
>>such a utility exists.
>>
>>
>"Allen Browne" <AllenBrowne@Se eSig.Invalidwro te in message
>news:O49hbGu$G HA.4328@TK2MSFT NGP03.phx.gbl.. .>>>>>A utility to develop table schemas?
>>>
>>If ou are looking for suggestions on how to design schemas for a variety
>>of needs, this might be useful:
>> http://www.databaseanswers.com/data_models/index.htm
>>>
>>In general, though, you only go go the trouble of creating a custom
>>database if there is no off-the-shelf solution. Therefore the bespoke
>>Access databases you create all have unique needs, and cannot be
>>designed by a utility.
>>>
>>--
>>Allen Browne - Microsoft MVP. Perth, Western Australia.
>>Tips for Access users - http://allenbrowne.com/tips.html
>>Reply to group, rather than allenbrowne at mvps dot org.
>>>
>>"Neil" <nospam@nospam. netwrote in message
>>news:4ju2h.16 29$l25.515@news read4.news.pas. earthlink.net.. .
>>>Anyone have a recommendation for a good inexpensive or free utility for
>>>developing table schemas.
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>>>
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With me, if it's not on my PC, it gets lost. The only way I find mail is by
knowing which part of the floor it was left on.... My computer files, on the
other hand, are very organized. :-)
"Tim Marshall" <TIMMY!@PurpleP andaChasers.Moe rtheriumwrote in message
news:eimp8a$tjr $1@coranto.ucs. mun.ca...Neil wrote:>>I meant just a tool for playing with table designs and providing a
>graphical interface/printing utility, not one that would do the designing
>work for me. I want to be able to design the tables manually, set up
>relationship s, and print the schemas, without creating the tables, and
>then create the tables once I'm done with all the design work. Seems that
>such a utility exists.
Might be, but I find small yellow stickies (post it notes) work great when
conceptualizing a design. It's certainly possible I'm in the dark ages,
though.
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me
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Could be; but I was hoping for some free or inexpensive tool for doing
this -- doesn't have to be fancy.
You know, it's interesting: I was expecting lots of replies saying, "I use
this," or "I use that." But that hasn't been the case. So what do most
people do, just design with pencil and paper or just Word or Excel? Or just
go straight to table design?
"David F Cox" <nospam@please. comwrote in message
news:%23mP1AHZA HHA.4496@TK2MSF TNGP02.phx.gbl. ..>I believe Microsoft's Visio might do what you want.
>
"Tim Marshall" <TIMMY!@PurpleP andaChasers.Moe rtheriumwrote in message
news:eimp8a$tjr $1@coranto.ucs. mun.ca...>>Neil wrote:>>>>I meant just a tool for playing with table designs and providing a
>>graphical interface/printing utility, not one that would do the
>>designing work for me. I want to be able to design the tables manually,
>>set up relationships, and print the schemas, without creating the
>>tables, and then create the tables once I'm done with all the design
>>work. Seems that such a utility exists.
>Might be, but I find small yellow stickies (post it notes) work great
>when conceptualizing a design. It's certainly possible I'm in the dark
>ages, though.
>--
>Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
>^o<
>/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
>/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me
>>
>
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In article <xUO3h.3032$l25 .2949
@newsread4.news .pas.earthlink. net>, nospam@nospam.n et says...I was also expecting to see lots of replies.Could be; but I was hoping for some free or inexpensive tool for doing
this -- doesn't have to be fancy.
>
You know, it's interesting: I was expecting lots of replies saying, "I use
this," or "I use that." But that hasn't been the case. So what do most
people do, just design with pencil and paper or just Word or Excel? Or just
go straight to table design?
>
This is the only thing I have encountered that is free.
(Assuming it can still be downloaded.)
it is really for use with Mysql.
I have also seen this recommended, but the cheapest version is
$229. http://www.datanamic.com/
There are many others and most are expensive.
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