Write Conflict Message - Turn Off!

[christianlott1@yahoo.com]

After searching the group and the net, I just can't believe after all
this work I'm going to have to sit through three Write Conflict
messages when I want to roll back and delete a record.

The action rolls back a new hire record, deleting it from a joining
table between employee and position - tblPosEmpRecord .

It's a many to many join.

The new hire action updates the employee with a new position and logs
it in the connecting record table.

If a user accidentally assigns the wrong position, they will need to
rollback the change and erase the connecting record, store a null in
the employee tables' position number, and store 'vacant' in the
position table for that record.

Here's the rollback:

Public Sub rollback()
On Error Resume Next
Dim temp_pos As Long
Dim temp_title As Long
Dim temp_salary As Currency

temp_pos = Forms!frmperson nelmain!frmTAB1 part4!curPos
temp_title = Forms!frmperson nelmain!frmTAB1 part4!curTitle
temp_salary = Forms!frmperson nelmain!frmTAB1 part4!curSalary

Forms!frmperson nelmain![tblPosition.Pos StatusID] = 2 'vacant
MsgBox "pos=vacant "

If Forms!frmperson nelmain.Dirty Then
Forms!frmperson nelmain.Dirty = False
End If

If Forms!frmperson nelmain!frmTAB1 part4!Designati on = 11 Then
'<----rollback for new hire!
Forms!frmperson nelmain![tblEmployee.Pos ID] = Null
If Forms!frmperson nelmain.Dirty Then
Forms!frmperson nelmain.Dirty = False
End If
Forms!frmperson nelmain![cboHistFilt] = Null
MsgBox "new hire rollback REcord Deleted"
Forms!frmperson nelmain!EmpStat us = 0 'inactive
Forms!frmperson nelmain!frmTAB1 part4!proPos.Re query
Exit Sub
End If

Forms!frmperson nelmain!frmTAB1 part4!PosID = temp_pos
Forms!frmperson nelmain![tblEmployee.Pos ID] = temp_pos
Forms!frmperson nelmain![tblPosition.Job ClassID] = temp_title
Forms!frmperson nelmain!Monthly Salary = temp_salary
Forms!frmperson nelmain![cboHistFilt] = temp_pos
Forms!frmperson nelmain![tblPosition.Pos StatusID] = 1 'filled
MsgBox "gothere? rollback"
If Forms!frmperson nelmain.Dirty Then
Forms!frmperson nelmain.Dirty = False
End If
Forms!frmperson nelmain!frmTAB1 part4!proPos.Re query
End Sub



It works, I just don't like the three WRITE CONFLICT messages popping
off. It's very obnoxios.

Thanks,

Christian

[Tom van Stiphout]

Re: Write Conflict Message - Turn Off!

On 21 Oct 2006 21:41:10 -0700, christianlott1@ yahoo.com wrote:


You rather get rid of the message than fix the underlying problem? No
problemo: just add "on error resume next" to the top of your
procedure.

Some of us would rather know what causes this, and fix the root cause.

-Tom.

>After searching the group and the net, I just can't believe after all
>this work I'm going to have to sit through three Write Conflict
>messages when I want to roll back and delete a record.
>
>The action rolls back a new hire record, deleting it from a joining
>table between employee and position - tblPosEmpRecord .
>
>It's a many to many join.
>
>The new hire action updates the employee with a new position and logs
>it in the connecting record table.
>
>If a user accidentally assigns the wrong position, they will need to
>rollback the change and erase the connecting record, store a null in
>the employee tables' position number, and store 'vacant' in the
>position table for that record.
>
>Here's the rollback:
>
>Public Sub rollback()
>On Error Resume Next
>Dim temp_pos As Long
>Dim temp_title As Long
>Dim temp_salary As Currency
>
>temp_pos = Forms!frmperson nelmain!frmTAB1 part4!curPos
>temp_title = Forms!frmperson nelmain!frmTAB1 part4!curTitle
>temp_salary = Forms!frmperson nelmain!frmTAB1 part4!curSalary
>
>Forms!frmperso nnelmain![tblPosition.Pos StatusID] = 2 'vacant
>MsgBox "pos=vacant "
>
>If Forms!frmperson nelmain.Dirty Then
Forms!frmperson nelmain.Dirty = False
End If
>
>If Forms!frmperson nelmain!frmTAB1 part4!Designati on = 11 Then
>'<----rollback for new hire!
>Forms!frmperso nnelmain![tblEmployee.Pos ID] = Null
If Forms!frmperson nelmain.Dirty Then
Forms!frmperson nelmain.Dirty = False
End If
>Forms!frmperso nnelmain![cboHistFilt] = Null
MsgBox "new hire rollback REcord Deleted"
Forms!frmperson nelmain!EmpStat us = 0 'inactive
Forms!frmperson nelmain!frmTAB1 part4!proPos.Re query
Exit Sub
>End If
>
>Forms!frmperso nnelmain!frmTAB 1part4!PosID = temp_pos
>Forms!frmperso nnelmain![tblEmployee.Pos ID] = temp_pos
>Forms!frmperso nnelmain![tblPosition.Job ClassID] = temp_title
>Forms!frmperso nnelmain!Monthl ySalary = temp_salary
>Forms!frmperso nnelmain![cboHistFilt] = temp_pos
>Forms!frmperso nnelmain![tblPosition.Pos StatusID] = 1 'filled
>MsgBox "gothere? rollback"
>If Forms!frmperson nelmain.Dirty Then
Forms!frmperson nelmain.Dirty = False
End If
Forms!frmperson nelmain!frmTAB1 part4!proPos.Re query
>End Sub
>
>
>
>It works, I just don't like the three WRITE CONFLICT messages popping
>off. It's very obnoxios.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Christian

[christianlott1@yahoo.com]

Re: Write Conflict Message - Turn Off!

Actually, the routines work like I want them to work. There only
problem here is that I have a 'Write Conflict Error' that will not
respond to 'on error resume next' or even set warnings = false.

>From looking at the posts under this topic in this newsgroup, it seems

there is no way to turn it off.


I'm currently attempting to use update queries instead.


Very frustrating, especially when you have a deadline.



Christian

[Bob Quintal]

Re: Write Conflict Message - Turn Off!

christianlott1@ yahoo.com wrote in
news:1161537777 .783197.10540@b 28g2000cwb.goog legroups.com:

Actually, the routines work like I want them to work.

Do you really want the routines to not work properly, give error
messages and fail to perform proper updates?

That's what you imply by saying "the way I want them to work".

>
Very frustrating, especially when you have a deadline.

Frustrating is having someone too smart to accept the fact that he
needs to fix the problem, not hide it.

--
Bob Quintal

PA is y I've altered my email address.

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[PeaceManGroove]

Re: Write Conflict Message - Turn Off!

You don't think it has something to do with trying to set the Dirty to
"false" three times ??

He is trying to say the current record has not changed while it is
being changed ??

The update queries he was gonna try probably work better ??


PMG

Tom van Stiphout wrote:

On 21 Oct 2006 21:41:10 -0700, christianlott1@ yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
You rather get rid of the message than fix the underlying problem? No
problemo: just add "on error resume next" to the top of your
procedure.
>
Some of us would rather know what causes this, and fix the root cause.
>
-Tom.
>
>

After searching the group and the net, I just can't believe after all
this work I'm going to have to sit through three Write Conflict
messages when I want to roll back and delete a record.

The action rolls back a new hire record, deleting it from a joining
table between employee and position - tblPosEmpRecord .

It's a many to many join.

The new hire action updates the employee with a new position and logs
it in the connecting record table.

If a user accidentally assigns the wrong position, they will need to
rollback the change and erase the connecting record, store a null in
the employee tables' position number, and store 'vacant' in the
position table for that record.

Here's the rollback:

Public Sub rollback()
On Error Resume Next
Dim temp_pos As Long
Dim temp_title As Long
Dim temp_salary As Currency

temp_pos = Forms!frmperson nelmain!frmTAB1 part4!curPos
temp_title = Forms!frmperson nelmain!frmTAB1 part4!curTitle
temp_salary = Forms!frmperson nelmain!frmTAB1 part4!curSalary

Forms!frmperson nelmain![tblPosition.Pos StatusID] = 2 'vacant
MsgBox "pos=vacant "

If Forms!frmperson nelmain.Dirty Then
Forms!frmperson nelmain.Dirty = False
End If

If Forms!frmperson nelmain!frmTAB1 part4!Designati on = 11 Then
'<----rollback for new hire!
Forms!frmperson nelmain![tblEmployee.Pos ID] = Null
If Forms!frmperson nelmain.Dirty Then
Forms!frmperson nelmain.Dirty = False
End If
Forms!frmperson nelmain![cboHistFilt] = Null
MsgBox "new hire rollback REcord Deleted"
Forms!frmperson nelmain!EmpStat us = 0 'inactive
Forms!frmperson nelmain!frmTAB1 part4!proPos.Re query
Exit Sub
End If

Forms!frmperson nelmain!frmTAB1 part4!PosID = temp_pos
Forms!frmperson nelmain![tblEmployee.Pos ID] = temp_pos
Forms!frmperson nelmain![tblPosition.Job ClassID] = temp_title
Forms!frmperson nelmain!Monthly Salary = temp_salary
Forms!frmperson nelmain![cboHistFilt] = temp_pos
Forms!frmperson nelmain![tblPosition.Pos StatusID] = 1 'filled
MsgBox "gothere? rollback"
If Forms!frmperson nelmain.Dirty Then
Forms!frmperson nelmain.Dirty = False
End If
Forms!frmperson nelmain!frmTAB1 part4!proPos.Re query
End Sub



It works, I just don't like the three WRITE CONFLICT messages popping
off. It's very obnoxios.

Thanks,

Christian

[christianlott1@yahoo.com]

Re: Write Conflict Message - Turn Off!

PeaceManGroove wrote:

You don't think it has something to do with trying to set the Dirty to
"false" three times ??

Of course it does. That's how it's saving the changes. Any other way
and it won't work.

When I say *work* I will reiterate - it works exactly how I want it to.
Does that count for anything these days? Obviously MS Access doesn't
think so.

He is trying to say the current record has not changed while it is
being changed ??

That's a trick to save the record. It is a known trick and works
correctly. That's not what's causing the error. The error is caused by
me changing the value of one of the keys I believe - I need to do that
because I want the record to follow the employee to his new position.
There is no way to do this without programming.

>
The update queries he was gonna try probably work better ??

FYI the update queries are doing the trick. No more Mama Access
complaining.

What's surprising me about the people who have commented on this topic
in this thread and other threads is that - you all take it for granted
that Mama Access knows best in ALL situations.

The whole reason why they have a set warnings off and on error resume
next is because when you're programming - you should be allowed to have
control of your freaking program.

Sure it's helpful to have error messages but having error messages that
you can't shut off is just plain wrong. I can't begin to explain all
the things I've tried in Access that by all rights should work but
didn't. I've had to find so many work arounds for what I wanted to do -
it's amazing they call this programming at all (sure, some don't).

So now that I've done the same thing with update queries as I orignally
did by passing variables - what's the difference MS Access?

There is none. That's why Access is wrong. In one case it regards the
action as a 'write conflict' error that there is no way to shut off -
and the same action in a different context it won't remark on at all.



Christian

[Lyle Fairfield]

Re: Write Conflict Message - Turn Off!

christianlott1@ yahoo.com wrote in news:1161665234 .938184.9700
@m7g2000cwm.goo glegroups.com:

That's why Access is wrong.

Yes, it doesn't work very well for what you're trying to do, does it?

What's the solution? Have you considered rewriting your whole application
for some other platform?

I recommend that course reluctantly, for probably you wouldn't post here
anymore if you did. That's sad but it's probably for the best.

Oh well, our loss will be someone else's gain.

Hope this helps!

--
Lyle Fairfield

[christianlott1@yahoo.com]

Re: Write Conflict Message - Turn Off!


Lyle Fairfield wrote:

Oh well, our loss will be someone else's gain.
>
Hope this helps!

How old are you again?

Speak for yourself next time Lyle. Attempting to speak for the Access
community and this global usenet forum in general is about as mature as
your other weaselly little comments.

How about this - if you don't know the answer to the question then
stfu.




Christian

[Lyle Fairfield]

Re: Write Conflict Message - Turn Off!

christianlott1@ yahoo.com wrote in news:1161734008 .568914.13060
@i3g2000cwc.goo glegroups.com:

How about this - if you don't know the answer to the question then
stfu.

Well, sure. I won't feel guilty because you can use all the other helpful
suggestions you received.

--
Lyle Fairfield