PETITION: Help save VBA

[aatcbbtccctc@yahoo.com]

Sorry if this has already been posted, but a quick google search did
not show it in the Access newsgroups.

Please read here for an important petition regarding the long-term
future of "classic" VBA:

http://classicvb.org/petition/

TC

[Randy Harris]

Re: PETITION: Help save VBA

<aatcbbtccctc@y ahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1110602800 .921345.207290@ g14g2000cwa.goo glegroups.com.. .[color=blue]
> Sorry if this has already been posted, but a quick google search did
> not show it in the Access newsgroups.
>
> Please read here for an important petition regarding the long-term
> future of "classic" VBA:
>
> http://classicvb.org/petition/
>
> TC[/color]

A nice sentiment, but... I've been working with Microsoft development tools
for more than 20 years. I've yet to see the slightest indication that
they've ever been influenced by this sort of thing. They own the market.
They produce what they want to.

[Tom van Stiphout]

Re: PETITION: Help save VBA

On 11 Mar 2005 20:46:40 -0800, aatcbbtccctc@ya hoo.com wrote:

I for one am moving with the times. MSFT is keeping me young :-)

-Tom.

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>Sorry if this has already been posted, but a quick google search did
>not show it in the Access newsgroups.
>
>Please read here for an important petition regarding the long-term
>future of "classic" VBA:
>
>http://classicvb.org/petition/
>
>TC[/color]

[TC]

Re: PETITION: Help save VBA

I agree entirely. And the # of signees is not earth-shattering - it
needs a few more 0's on the end! But there's nothing to lose by
signing, IMO.

Cheers,
TC

[aatcbbtccctc@yahoo.com]

Re: PETITION: Help save VBA

My main product has 75,000 lines of VBA code. As a one man shop, I am
simply not in the position to take at least 2 years off everything
else, learn the new technologies thoroughly, then rewrite & retest all
that code - and update the documentation!

The thrust of the petition is to try & ensure that "classic" VB[A]
stays usable for as long as possible. Then people can migrate in their
own timeframes. There must be millions & millions of lines of VBA code
out there. We will all be in for a big headache, if that code stops
working "any time soon"!

As Randy Harris said, it's probably a waste of time. But IMO, there's
nothing to lose by signing it.

Cheers,
TC

[Trevor Best]

Re: PETITION: Help save VBA

Eek gads, if it were left to you luddites then Access would be a DOS
program and implement a subset of GW-BASIC.

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[Larry Linson]

Re: PETITION: Help save VBA

"Trevor Best" wrote
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> Eek gads, if it were left to you luddites
> then Access would be a DOS program
> and implement a subset of GW-BASIC.[/color]

I hope this was said facetiously, Trevor.

FYI, a great many VB and other MVPs have signed the petition, even those
whose primary tools are now .NET-oriented, and some who don't even do VB or
VBA development.

The petition is asking for some redress to the abandonment of those
customers who have substantial investment in classic VB and VBA code. With a
little luck, some attention will be paid in influential circles in Redmond.

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP

[Tom van Stiphout]

Re: PETITION: Help save VBA

On 12 Mar 2005 20:18:56 -0800, aatcbbtccctc@ya hoo.com wrote:

Just this week I ran the DOS program Clipper release summer 1987 in a
command window on my Windows XP machine. Almost 20 years after it was
released, and more versions of the OS later than I can count, and it
still worked. Over the years, MSFT has bent over backward to maintain
compatibility. VBA is in *current* MSFT products. The petition is a
few years ahead of its time.

-Tom.

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>My main product has 75,000 lines of VBA code. As a one man shop, I am
>simply not in the position to take at least 2 years off everything
>else, learn the new technologies thoroughly, then rewrite & retest all
>that code - and update the documentation!
>
>The thrust of the petition is to try & ensure that "classic" VB[A]
>stays usable for as long as possible. Then people can migrate in their
>own timeframes. There must be millions & millions of lines of VBA code
>out there. We will all be in for a big headache, if that code stops
>working "any time soon"!
>
>As Randy Harris said, it's probably a waste of time. But IMO, there's
>nothing to lose by signing it.
>
>Cheers,
>TC[/color]

[David W. Fenton]

Re: PETITION: Help save VBA

Tom van Stiphout <no.spam.tom774 4@cox.net> wrote in
news:qkj931t76e 5nuqpghk5n1dfc5 iomem9953@4ax.c om:
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> Just this week I ran the DOS program Clipper release summer 1987
> in a command window on my Windows XP machine. Almost 20 years
> after it was released, and more versions of the OS later than I
> can count, and it still worked. Over the years, MSFT has bent
> over backward to maintain compatibility. VBA is in *current* MSFT
> products. The petition is a few years ahead of its time.[/color]

Not necessarily. You don't want to wait until Microsoft breaks the
legacy apps with newly released code, you want them to make sure the
new code accounts for the legacy apps before it leaves Microsoft.
The sooner you get MS's attention on the matter, the better chance
you have of them agreeing with your goal and choosing to code in a
way that maintains backward compatibility.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

[aatcbbtccctc@yahoo.com]

Re: PETITION: Help save VBA

Wow. Your response is a classic example of why I left this newsgroup
ages ago. I won't repeat the mistake of coming back.

TC

[XMVP]

Re: PETITION: Help save VBA


<aatcbbtccctc@y ahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Wow. Your response is a classic example of why I left this newsgroup
> ages ago. I won't repeat the mistake of coming back.
>
> TC
>[/color]

All that's left is Lame Larry and his 20 other identities, 10 of which are
queers.

[Larry Linson]

Re: PETITION: Help save VBA

"XMVP" <access_morons@ hotmail.com> wrote
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> All that's left is Lame Larry and . . .[/color]

Let you out again, did they, Donnie?

[Trevor Best]

Re: PETITION: Help save VBA

aatcbbtccctc@ya hoo.com wrote:[color=blue]
> Wow. Your response is a classic example of why I left this newsgroup
> ages ago. I won't repeat the mistake of coming back.[/color]

Because somebody disagreed with you or because you're unable to spot a
bit of tounge in cheek if the author doesn't add the ":P" emoticon?

I'll take a stance similar to others in this group and say if you don't
like my responses then don't read 'em, your loss, not mine.

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[aatcbbtccctc@yahoo.com]

Re: PETITION: Help save VBA


Trevor Best wrote:[color=blue]
> aatcbbtccctc@ya hoo.com wrote:[color=green]
> > Wow. Your response is a classic example of why I left this[/color][/color]
newsgroup[color=blue][color=green]
> > ages ago. I won't repeat the mistake of coming back.[/color]
>
> Because somebody disagreed with you or because you're unable to spot[/color]
a[color=blue]
> bit of tounge in cheek if the author doesn't add the ":P" emoticon?[/color]

You obviously did not mean it tongue in cheek, or you would now be
apologising for not having made that clear.
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> I'll take a stance similar to others in this group and say if you[/color]
don't[color=blue]
> like my responses then don't read 'em, your loss, not mine.[/color]

I very much doubt that I will lose anything at all, by not reading your
responses.

TC