tiling two objects vertically

[WindAndWaves]

Hi everyone,

I have a main menu that opens a report and a form that I would like to
display at the same time (while hiding the main menu).

So far, I made the form a pop-up and the report a preview so that both are
visible. The form is really small so it works.

However, it would be much better if I could tile the report and the form
vertically where the form takes up about 5cm and the report the rest of the
screen.

I have been trying for a while, but can't find a solution.

Thank you for reading this, it would be cool to hear if anyone has an idea

Nicolaas




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[Bradley]

Re: tiling two objects vertically

WindAndWaves wrote:[color=blue]
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have a main menu that opens a report and a form that I would like to
> display at the same time (while hiding the main menu).
>
> So far, I made the form a pop-up and the report a preview so that
> both are visible. The form is really small so it works.
>
> However, it would be much better if I could tile the report and the
> form vertically where the form takes up about 5cm and the report the
> rest of the screen.
>
> I have been trying for a while, but can't find a solution.
>
> Thank you for reading this, it would be cool to hear if anyone has an
> idea
>
> Nicolaas[/color]

Perhaps embed the Report in the Form as a sub form/report?
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regards,

Bradley

[WindAndWaves]

Re: tiling two objects vertically

Thanks Bradley

I tried that, but it seems that only reports can be embedded as subreports
and forms only as subforms. We are mixing here, that is a subreport in a
form does not work

I think I need to set the size of each window or something like that, but I
am not sure how.






"Bradley" <bradley@REMOVE THIScomcen.com. au> wrote in message
news:BAzqc.4681 0$TT.21018@news-server.bigpond. net.au...[color=blue]
> WindAndWaves wrote:[color=green]
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I have a main menu that opens a report and a form that I would like to
> > display at the same time (while hiding the main menu).
> >
> > So far, I made the form a pop-up and the report a preview so that
> > both are visible. The form is really small so it works.
> >
> > However, it would be much better if I could tile the report and the
> > form vertically where the form takes up about 5cm and the report the
> > rest of the screen.
> >
> > I have been trying for a while, but can't find a solution.
> >
> > Thank you for reading this, it would be cool to hear if anyone has an
> > idea
> >
> > Nicolaas[/color]
>
> Perhaps embed the Report in the Form as a sub form/report?
> --
> regards,
>
> Bradley
>
>[/color]


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[Bradley]

Re: tiling two objects vertically

WindAndWaves wrote:[color=blue]
> Thanks Bradley
>
> I tried that, but it seems that only reports can be embedded as
> subreports and forms only as subforms. We are mixing here, that is a
> subreport in a form does not work
>
> I think I need to set the size of each window or something like that,
> but I am not sure how.[/color]

Hmm, ok.

The next question I have is "why?". Why do you need both open at once?
Can't you put the control of your form on the report? (Haven't tried it
myself:)

You can manually size them and press Ctrl-S to save the position (if
they are not dialogs/modal/etc)....?

Bradley
[color=blue]
> "Bradley" <bradley@REMOVE THIScomcen.com. au> wrote in message
> news:BAzqc.4681 0$TT.21018@news-server.bigpond. net.au...[color=green]
>> WindAndWaves wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I have a main menu that opens a report and a form that I would like
>>> to display at the same time (while hiding the main menu).
>>>
>>> So far, I made the form a pop-up and the report a preview so that
>>> both are visible. The form is really small so it works.
>>>
>>> However, it would be much better if I could tile the report and the
>>> form vertically where the form takes up about 5cm and the report the
>>> rest of the screen.
>>>
>>> I have been trying for a while, but can't find a solution.
>>>
>>> Thank you for reading this, it would be cool to hear if anyone has
>>> an idea
>>>
>>> Nicolaas[/color]
>>
>> Perhaps embed the Report in the Form as a sub form/report?
>> --
>> regards,
>>
>> Bradley
>>
>>[/color]
>
>
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Bradley

[Salad]

Re: tiling two objects vertically

Bradley wrote:[color=blue]
> WindAndWaves wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Thanks Bradley
>>
>>I tried that, but it seems that only reports can be embedded as
>>subreports and forms only as subforms. We are mixing here, that is a
>>subreport in a form does not work
>>
>>I think I need to set the size of each window or something like that,
>>but I am not sure how.[/color]
>
>
> Hmm, ok.
>
> The next question I have is "why?". Why do you need both open at once?
> Can't you put the control of your form on the report? (Haven't tried it
> myself:)[/color]

A fruitless question. Why someone wants to do something is irrelevent.
[color=blue]
>
> You can manually size them and press Ctrl-S to save the position (if
> they are not dialogs/modal/etc)....?
>
> Bradley
>
>[color=green]
>>"Bradley" <bradley@REMOVE THIScomcen.com. au> wrote in message
>>news:BAzqc.46 810$TT.21018@ne ws-server.bigpond. net.au...
>>[color=darkred]
>>>WindAndWav es wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>>I have a main menu that opens a report and a form that I would like
>>>>to display at the same time (while hiding the main menu).
>>>>
>>>>So far, I made the form a pop-up and the report a preview so that
>>>>both are visible. The form is really small so it works.
>>>>
>>>>However, it would be much better if I could tile the report and the
>>>>form vertically where the form takes up about 5cm and the report the
>>>>rest of the screen.
>>>>
>>>>I have been trying for a while, but can't find a solution.
>>>>
>>>>Thank you for reading this, it would be cool to hear if anyone has
>>>>an idea
>>>>
>>>>Nicolaas
>>>
>>>Perhaps embed the Report in the Form as a sub form/report?
>>>--
>>>regards,
>>>
>>>Bradley
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>
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>
>[/color]

[Salad]

Re: tiling two objects vertically

WindAndWaves wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have a main menu that opens a report and a form that I would like to
> display at the same time (while hiding the main menu).
>
> So far, I made the form a pop-up and the report a preview so that both are
> visible. The form is really small so it works.
>
> However, it would be much better if I could tile the report and the form
> vertically where the form takes up about 5cm and the report the rest of the
> screen.
>
> I have been trying for a while, but can't find a solution.
>
> Thank you for reading this, it would be cool to hear if anyone has an idea
>
> Nicolaas
>[/color]

Maybe the RunCommand will work. Ex:
Docmd.Runcomman d acCmdTileVertic ally

As far as sizing it, you're on your own.

[Bri]

Re: tiling two objects vertically

Nicolaas,

In the OnOpen Event of the form and report use
DoCmd.MoveSize [right][, down][, width][, height] (in Twips, 1440/inch)
See the Help for more info.

Bri

WindAndWaves wrote:[color=blue]
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have a main menu that opens a report and a form that I would like to
> display at the same time (while hiding the main menu).
>
> So far, I made the form a pop-up and the report a preview so that both are
> visible. The form is really small so it works.
>
> However, it would be much better if I could tile the report and the form
> vertically where the form takes up about 5cm and the report the rest of the
> screen.
>
> I have been trying for a while, but can't find a solution.
>
> Thank you for reading this, it would be cool to hear if anyone has an idea
>
> Nicolaas
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Please immediately let us know (by phone or return email) if (a) this email
> contains a virus
> (b) you are not the intended recipient
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> none of the above are applicable. THANK YOU
> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.687 / Virus Database: 448 - Release Date: 16/05/2004
>
>[/color]

[WindAndWaves]

Re: tiling two objects vertically

Hi Bri

I think this may be a good idea.

Also, Bradley and salad, the reason why I would like to do it is because the
report shows the booking information (for the restaurant) and the form
allows the person to make the booking.

I can't make the report into a form, because the report is perfect and vice
versa.

Asking why may help though because it allow you to think of other ways to
solve the actual problem. THat is, my problem is to let the waiter make a
booking while seeing the other bookings.. rather than displaying two at the
same time (that is just a solution really).


"Bri" <not@here.com > wrote in message news:1CSqc.5391 52$Ig.55968@pd7 tw2no...[color=blue]
> Nicolaas,
>
> In the OnOpen Event of the form and report use
> DoCmd.MoveSize [right][, down][, width][, height] (in Twips, 1440/inch)
> See the Help for more info.
>
> Bri
>
> WindAndWaves wrote:[color=green]
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I have a main menu that opens a report and a form that I would like to
> > display at the same time (while hiding the main menu).
> >
> > So far, I made the form a pop-up and the report a preview so that both[/color][/color]
are[color=blue][color=green]
> > visible. The form is really small so it works.
> >
> > However, it would be much better if I could tile the report and the form
> > vertically where the form takes up about 5cm and the report the rest of[/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green]
> > screen.
> >
> > I have been trying for a while, but can't find a solution.
> >
> > Thank you for reading this, it would be cool to hear if anyone has an[/color][/color]
idea[color=blue][color=green]
> >
> > Nicolaas
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Please immediately let us know (by phone or return email) if (a) this[/color][/color]
email[color=blue][color=green]
> > contains a virus
> > (b) you are not the intended recipient
> > (c) you consider this email to be spam.
> > We have done our utmost to make sure that
> > none of the above are applicable. THANK YOU
> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > Version: 6.0.687 / Virus Database: 448 - Release Date: 16/05/2004
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]


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[Bradley]

Re: tiling two objects vertically

Salad wrote:[color=blue]
> Bradley wrote:[color=green]
>> WindAndWaves wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Thanks Bradley
>>>
>>> I tried that, but it seems that only reports can be embedded as
>>> subreports and forms only as subforms. We are mixing here, that is
>>> a subreport in a form does not work
>>>
>>> I think I need to set the size of each window or something like
>>> that, but I am not sure how.[/color]
>>
>>
>> Hmm, ok.
>>
>> The next question I have is "why?". Why do you need both open at
>> once? Can't you put the control of your form on the report? (Haven't
>> tried it myself:)[/color]
>
> A fruitless question. Why someone wants to do something is
> irrelevent.[/color]

Not at all! Knowing why allows you to determine if there is a better way
of doing it. You must always understand why a client needs something.
It's an important part of the analysis.

<snip>
--
regards,

Bradley

[Bradley]

Re: tiling two objects vertically

WindAndWaves wrote:[color=blue]
> Hi Bri
>
> I think this may be a good idea.
>
> Also, Bradley and salad, the reason why I would like to do it is
> because the report shows the booking information (for the restaurant)
> and the form allows the person to make the booking.[/color]

Surely this information can be represented in a form?
[color=blue]
> I can't make the report into a form, because the report is perfect
> and vice versa.[/color]

Please explain what you mean by "perfect"? :) What prevents the
information being communicated on a form? (either in a similar format of
in a different way).
[color=blue]
> Asking why may help though because it allow you to think of other
> ways to solve the actual problem. THat is, my problem is to let the
> waiter make a booking while seeing the other bookings.. rather than
> displaying two at the same time (that is just a solution really).[/color]

That was my reason for asking. I's sure a form based solution can be
used for this.

Bradley
[color=blue]
> "Bri" <not@here.com > wrote in message
> news:1CSqc.5391 52$Ig.55968@pd7 tw2no...[color=green]
>> Nicolaas,
>>
>> In the OnOpen Event of the form and report use
>> DoCmd.MoveSize [right][, down][, width][, height] (in Twips,
>> 1440/inch) See the Help for more info.
>>
>> Bri
>>
>> WindAndWaves wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I have a main menu that opens a report and a form that I would like
>>> to display at the same time (while hiding the main menu).
>>>
>>> So far, I made the form a pop-up and the report a preview so that
>>> both are visible. The form is really small so it works.
>>>
>>> However, it would be much better if I could tile the report and the
>>> form vertically where the form takes up about 5cm and the report
>>> the rest of the screen.
>>>
>>> I have been trying for a while, but can't find a solution.
>>>
>>> Thank you for reading this, it would be cool to hear if anyone has
>>> an idea
>>>
>>> Nicolaas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Please immediately let us know (by phone or return email) if (a)
>>> this email contains a virus
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>>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
>>> Version: 6.0.687 / Virus Database: 448 - Release Date: 16/05/2004
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>
>
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Bradley

[WindAndWaves]

Re: tiling two objects vertically

Forms allow you to group data in headers, a form can not

e.g.
***Day***
~~~Period of the day~~~
---RoomB---
Reservation details #1
Reservation details #2
Reservation details #3
---RoomA---
Reservation details #4
Reservation details #5
Reservation details #6


"Bradley" <bradley@REMOVE THIScomcen.com. au> wrote in message
news:BBarc.5064 7$TT.32523@news-server.bigpond. net.au...[color=blue]
> WindAndWaves wrote:[color=green]
> > Hi Bri
> >
> > I think this may be a good idea.
> >
> > Also, Bradley and salad, the reason why I would like to do it is
> > because the report shows the booking information (for the restaurant)
> > and the form allows the person to make the booking.[/color]
>
> Surely this information can be represented in a form?
>[color=green]
> > I can't make the report into a form, because the report is perfect
> > and vice versa.[/color]
>
> Please explain what you mean by "perfect"? :) What prevents the
> information being communicated on a form? (either in a similar format of
> in a different way).
>[color=green]
> > Asking why may help though because it allow you to think of other
> > ways to solve the actual problem. THat is, my problem is to let the
> > waiter make a booking while seeing the other bookings.. rather than
> > displaying two at the same time (that is just a solution really).[/color]
>
> That was my reason for asking. I's sure a form based solution can be
> used for this.
>
> Bradley
>[color=green]
> > "Bri" <not@here.com > wrote in message
> > news:1CSqc.5391 52$Ig.55968@pd7 tw2no...[color=darkred]
> >> Nicolaas,
> >>
> >> In the OnOpen Event of the form and report use
> >> DoCmd.MoveSize [right][, down][, width][, height] (in Twips,
> >> 1440/inch) See the Help for more info.
> >>
> >> Bri
> >>
> >> WindAndWaves wrote:
> >>> Hi everyone,
> >>>
> >>> I have a main menu that opens a report and a form that I would like
> >>> to display at the same time (while hiding the main menu).
> >>>
> >>> So far, I made the form a pop-up and the report a preview so that
> >>> both are visible. The form is really small so it works.
> >>>
> >>> However, it would be much better if I could tile the report and the
> >>> form vertically where the form takes up about 5cm and the report
> >>> the rest of the screen.
> >>>
> >>> I have been trying for a while, but can't find a solution.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for reading this, it would be cool to hear if anyone has
> >>> an idea
> >>>
> >>> Nicolaas
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Please immediately let us know (by phone or return email) if (a)
> >>> this email contains a virus
> >>> (b) you are not the intended recipient
> >>> (c) you consider this email to be spam.
> >>> We have done our utmost to make sure that
> >>> none of the above are applicable. THANK YOU
> >>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> >>> Version: 6.0.687 / Virus Database: 448 - Release Date: 16/05/2004
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>[/color]
> >
> >
> > ---
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> > email contains a virus
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> > Version: 6.0.687 / Virus Database: 448 - Release Date: 16/05/2004[/color]
>
> --
> regards,
>
> Bradley
>
>[/color]


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[Bradley]

Re: tiling two objects vertically

WindAndWaves wrote:[color=blue]
> Forms allow you to group data in headers, a form can not[/color]

I assume you meant reports can group data in headers? :)
[color=blue]
> e.g.
> ***Day***
> ~~~Period of the day~~~
> ---RoomB---
> Reservation details #1
> Reservation details #2
> Reservation details #3
> ---RoomA---
> Reservation details #4
> Reservation details #5
> Reservation details #6[/color]

You can achieve this in a form... although granted it may not be as
simple.. but some of the nicest solutions (for the client) aren't the
simplest :)

Ideas...?
- use the Treeview control?
- use subforms with a subform?
- build a query that displays the data (simplest way may be to write it
to a temp table?)

I'm sure there are many others. As a general rule for me is if you are
enquiring the data on the screen a form is best.

Bradley

[color=blue]
> "Bradley" <bradley@REMOVE THIScomcen.com. au> wrote in message
> news:BBarc.5064 7$TT.32523@news-server.bigpond. net.au...[color=green]
>> WindAndWaves wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Hi Bri
>>>
>>> I think this may be a good idea.
>>>
>>> Also, Bradley and salad, the reason why I would like to do it is
>>> because the report shows the booking information (for the
>>> restaurant) and the form allows the person to make the booking.[/color]
>>
>> Surely this information can be represented in a form?
>>[color=darkred]
>>> I can't make the report into a form, because the report is perfect
>>> and vice versa.[/color]
>>
>> Please explain what you mean by "perfect"? :) What prevents the
>> information being communicated on a form? (either in a similar
>> format of in a different way).
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Asking why may help though because it allow you to think of other
>>> ways to solve the actual problem. THat is, my problem is to let the
>>> waiter make a booking while seeing the other bookings.. rather than
>>> displaying two at the same time (that is just a solution really).[/color]
>>
>> That was my reason for asking. I's sure a form based solution can be
>> used for this.
>>
>> Bradley
>>[color=darkred]
>>> "Bri" <not@here.com > wrote in message
>>> news:1CSqc.5391 52$Ig.55968@pd7 tw2no...
>>>> Nicolaas,
>>>>
>>>> In the OnOpen Event of the form and report use
>>>> DoCmd.MoveSize [right][, down][, width][, height] (in Twips,
>>>> 1440/inch) See the Help for more info.
>>>>
>>>> Bri
>>>>
>>>> WindAndWaves wrote:
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a main menu that opens a report and a form that I would
>>>>> like to display at the same time (while hiding the main menu).
>>>>>
>>>>> So far, I made the form a pop-up and the report a preview so that
>>>>> both are visible. The form is really small so it works.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, it would be much better if I could tile the report and
>>>>> the form vertically where the form takes up about 5cm and the
>>>>> report the rest of the screen.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been trying for a while, but can't find a solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for reading this, it would be cool to hear if anyone has
>>>>> an idea
>>>>>
>>>>> Nicolaas
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Please immediately let us know (by phone or return email) if (a)
>>>>> this email contains a virus
>>>>> (b) you are not the intended recipient
>>>>> (c) you consider this email to be spam.
>>>>> We have done our utmost to make sure that
>>>>> none of the above are applicable. THANK YOU
>>>>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
>>>>> Version: 6.0.687 / Virus Database: 448 - Release Date: 16/05/2004
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Please immediately let us know (by phone or return email) if (a)
>>> this email contains a virus
>>> (b) you are not the intended recipient
>>> (c) you consider this email to be spam.
>>> We have done our utmost to make sure that
>>> none of the above are applicable. THANK YOU
>>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
>>> Version: 6.0.687 / Virus Database: 448 - Release Date: 16/05/2004[/color]
>>
>> --
>> regards,
>>
>> Bradley
>>
>>[/color]
>
>
> ---
> Please immediately let us know (by phone or return email) if (a) this
> email contains a virus
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> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.688 / Virus Database: 449 - Release Date: 18/05/2004[/color]

--
regards,

Bradley

[Salad]

Re: tiling two objects vertically

WindAndWaves wrote:[color=blue]
> Forms allow you to group data in headers, a form can not
>
> e.g.
> ***Day***
> ~~~Period of the day~~~
> ---RoomB---
> Reservation details #1
> Reservation details #2
> Reservation details #3
> ---RoomA---
> Reservation details #4
> Reservation details #5
> Reservation details #6
>
>[/color]

Doable in a form. Depends on your skill level.

[Salad]

Re: tiling two objects vertically

Bradley wrote:
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>>A fruitless question. Why someone wants to do something is
>>irrelevent.[/color]
>
>
> Not at all! Knowing why allows you to determine if there is a better way
> of doing it. You must always understand why a client needs something.
> It's an important part of the analysis.
>
> <snip>[/color]
True enough. However, why someone wants to do something, especially in
NG questions, is most often irrelevant. There may be reasons why they
want to do it one way and not another. I have posed questions before
and the people answering me tend to wonder why I want to do something
more than simply answering a question. When the question is about
methods then you get into a long drawn out explanation of why you want
to do something. If it is a question by someone that is a relative
newbie to a feature of the system, OK. But if someone knows the product
and how it works, there may be underlying reasons why a way of
implementing something is done.

In my responses, because I have asked in the past for some advice
normally beyond the scope of what I know of a product, I tend to not
focus on why something is being requested one way but answering the
question. IOW, I may provide a recommendation for a better method to
accomplish a task I may think may assist, but as to why they want to do
something I tend to find a waste of time.

[Salad]

Re: tiling two objects vertically

Bradley wrote:
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> Salad wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Bradley wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>WindAndWav es wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks Bradley
>>>>
>>>>I tried that, but it seems that only reports can be embedded as
>>>>subreport s and forms only as subforms. We are mixing here, that is
>>>>a subreport in a form does not work
>>>>
>>>>I think I need to set the size of each window or something like
>>>>that, but I am not sure how.
>>>
>>>
>>>Hmm, ok.
>>>
>>>The next question I have is "why?". Why do you need both open at
>>>once? Can't you put the control of your form on the report? (Haven't
>>>tried it myself:)[/color]
>>
>>A fruitless question. Why someone wants to do something is
>>irrelevent.[/color]
>
>
> Not at all! Knowing why allows you to determine if there is a better way
> of doing it. You must always understand why a client needs something.
> It's an important part of the analysis.
>
> <snip>[/color]
True enough. However, why someone wants to do something, especially in
NG questions, is most often irrelevant. There may be reasons why they
want to do it one way and not another. I have posed questions before
and the people answering me tend to wonder why I want to do something
more than simply answering a question. When the question is about
methods then you get into a long drawn out explanation of why you want
to do something. If it is a question by someone that is a relative
newbie to a feature of the system, OK. But if someone knows the product
and how it works, there may be underlying reasons why a way of
implementing something is done.

In my responses, because I have asked in the past for some advice
normally beyond the scope of what I know of a product, I tend to not
focus on why something is being requested one way but answering the
question. IOW, I may provide a recommendation for a better method to
accomplish a task I may think may assist, but as to why they want to do
something I tend to find a waste of time.