Access and Oracle

[BigDaDDY]

Why do you bozos continue to program in Access? Do you enjoy being at the
mercy of Microsoft? Try using a real database like Oracle.

[Bruce Pick]

Re: Access and Oracle

Try a little respect.

BigDaDDY wrote:[color=blue]
> Why do you bozos continue to program in Access? Do you enjoy being at the
> mercy of Microsoft? Try using a real database like Oracle.[/color]

[Tom Travolta]

Re: Access and Oracle

"BigDaDDY" <ihatespam@hotm ail.com> wrote in message
news:101fevh5js dguf7@corp.supe rnews.com...[color=blue]
> Why do you bozos continue to program in Access? Do you enjoy being at the
> mercy of Microsoft? Try using a real database like Oracle.[/color]



Because the Access newsgroups are just so much more fun.


P.S. Can you turn an Oracle db into an exe?

[DFS]

Re: Access and Oracle

"BigDaDDY" <ihatespam@hotm ail.com> wrote in message
news:101fevh5js dguf7@corp.supe rnews.com...
[color=blue]
> Why do you bozos continue to program in Access? Do you enjoy being at the
> mercy of Microsoft? Try using a real database like Oracle.[/color]

You're saying we should use products from a company whose employees can't
even install them? I don't think so. Twice now I've watched high-paid
Oracle people fail to be able to install or run Oracle Designer and Oracle
Workflow.

(note: Oracle is an awesome db I recommend frequently, but their staff
consultants suck).

[DCM Fan]

Re: Access and Oracle

<<You're saying we should use products from a company whose employees can't
even install them? I don't think so. Twice now I've watched high-paid
Oracle people fail to be able to install or run Oracle Designer and Oracle
Workflow.>>

I've had this kind of thing happen 4 times in the last 10 years:

--Big Company X brings in a bunch of Oracle consultants to build Big Oracle
Database

--Big Company X contracts me to build "temporary working model" in MS Access
b/c Big Oracle Database is taking so long to produce, but they still need some
working automation, and the Consultants seem to be having a hard time
understanding the biz process.

--Big Company X throws out Oracle consultants after spending anywhere from
$500,000 to $2MIL, with almost ZERO user-functionality completed.

--Big Company X--after months of my prodding--pays me to upsize "temporay
working model" to SQL Server. This takes one day. Total cost of application is
between $25,000 and $150,000, depending on X.

--Big Comapny X never uses Oracle again.

--Big Company X is either using MS Access front end to SQL Server or ASP.NET to
SQL Server these days.

[DFS]

Re: Access and Oracle

A friend of mine's company just wasted $40,000 on an Oracle data warehouse
license and Oracle consultants who failed to implement a small OLAP system.

Their consulting isn't that great, but their db rocks. What they need,
though, are better admin tools, like SQL Server's Enterprise Manager and
Query Analyzer.


"DCM Fan" <dcmfan@aol.com SPNOAM> wrote in message
news:2004012810 1410.12686.0000 0884@mb-m29.aol.com...[color=blue]
> <<You're saying we should use products from a company whose employees[/color]
can't[color=blue]
> even install them? I don't think so. Twice now I've watched high-paid
> Oracle people fail to be able to install or run Oracle Designer and Oracle
> Workflow.>>
>
> I've had this kind of thing happen 4 times in the last 10 years:
>
> --Big Company X brings in a bunch of Oracle consultants to build Big[/color]
Oracle[color=blue]
> Database
>
> --Big Company X contracts me to build "temporary working model" in MS[/color]
Access[color=blue]
> b/c Big Oracle Database is taking so long to produce, but they still need[/color]
some[color=blue]
> working automation, and the Consultants seem to be having a hard time
> understanding the biz process.
>
> --Big Company X throws out Oracle consultants after spending anywhere from
> $500,000 to $2MIL, with almost ZERO user-functionality completed.
>
> --Big Company X--after months of my prodding--pays me to upsize "temporay
> working model" to SQL Server. This takes one day. Total cost of[/color]
application is[color=blue]
> between $25,000 and $150,000, depending on X.
>
> --Big Comapny X never uses Oracle again.
>
> --Big Company X is either using MS Access front end to SQL Server or[/color]
ASP.NET to[color=blue]
> SQL Server these days.[/color]

[Richard Holliingsworth]

Re: Access and Oracle

Simple....

It's too damn expensive at 5 grand a pop (and that's NOT counting the
stupid yearly maintenance contract) PLUS you also have to BUY (also very
expensive) all the add ons you need to design, build, display, and print
the data.

ALL comes free with Access......Add SQL Serever as the backend, and
it'll run with Oracle any day......assumi ng you know what you are
doing......


Can't get any more simple than that.....bozo.


RH

BigDaDDY wrote:
[color=blue]
>Why do you bozos continue to program in Access? Do you enjoy being at the
>mercy of Microsoft? Try using a real database like Oracle.
>
>[/color]

[Rolf Østvik]

Re: Access and Oracle

"Tom Travolta" <tom@travolta.c om> wrote in
news:bv8f43$fb8 $1@hercules.bti nternet.com:
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> P.S. Can you turn an Oracle db into an exe?[/color]

Can you turn an Microsoft Access Database into an exe?