How to build the multi-language application?

[yxq]

Hello,
I want to build the multi-language application with the xml file, how to do?
could anyone tell a sample?
Thank you

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

Re: How to build the multi-language application?

"yxq" <gayxq@163.nets chrieb:

I want to build the multi-language application with the xml file, how to
do? could anyone tell a sample?

Why not use 'My.Resources' and custom "Resources.<cul ture name>.resx" files
(which will be compiled and embedded automatically when building the
project)?

--
M S Herfried K. Wagner
M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
V B <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/dotnet/faqs/>

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Re: How to build the multi-language application?

Thank you, where can find the samples?

"Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" wrote:

"yxq" <gayxq@163.nets chrieb:

I want to build the multi-language application with the xml file, how to
do? could anyone tell a sample?

>
Why not use 'My.Resources' and custom "Resources.<cul ture name>.resx" files
(which will be compiled and embedded automatically when building the
project)?
>
--
M S Herfried K. Wagner
M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
V B <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/dotnet/faqs/>
>
>

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Re: How to build the multi-language application?

On Oct 25, 8:23 am, "yxq" <ga...@163.netw rote:

Hello,
I want to build the multi-language application with the xml file, how to do?
could anyone tell a sample?
Thank you

Globalization is a topic too large for this newsgroup, I suggest you
find a good book on the topic or check out MSDN for some information.

Thanks,

Seth Rowe [MVP]

http://sethrowe.blogspot.com/

[Screaming Eagles 101]

Re: How to build the multi-language application?

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Thank you, where can find the samples?
>
"Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" wrote:
>

>"yxq" <gayxq@163.nets chrieb:

I want to build the multi-language application with the xml file, how
to
do? could anyone tell a sample?

>>
>Why not use 'My.Resources' and custom "Resources.<cul ture name>.resx"
>files
>(which will be compiled and embedded automatically when building the
>project)?
>>
>--
> M S Herfried K. Wagner
>M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
> V B <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/dotnet/faqs/>
>>

Short description on how I do it, this could help for a start :
- I add a resource file for each language, for instance English.Resx,
Dutch.Resx, etc....

- I add all components which do have a Text property, such as labels for
instance... but you can also add standard strings to use in msgboxes...
Example : in Resource File : column Name "btnAdd" (this is the same in
all resource files),
value "Add..." of course different value in other languages.

- Some code then in a separate module to open the resource file and read it
Declaration :
'Application Language
Public rm As Resources.Resou rceManager

'Function
Public Function getRMValue(ByVa l strValue As String)
Dim strLanguage As String

If IsNothing(rm) Then
'Get system language
strLanguage =
System.Globaliz ation.CultureIn fo.CurrentCultu re.ToString.ToU pper.Substring( 0,
2)

'Set resource manager
If strLanguage = "EN" Then
rm = My.Resources.En glish.ResourceM anager
Else
rm = My.Resources.Du tch.ResourceMan ager
End If
End If

getRMValue = rm.GetString(st rValue)
End Function

- In the forms :
btnAdd.text = getRMValue("btn Add")

Hope this helps a bit
Phil

[Cor Ligthert[MVP]]

Re: How to build the multi-language application?

yxq

In my opinion is the most simple way to create a DataSet and a DataGridView
You can read that from disk as ds.ReadXML
do your changes using the DataGridView and write it back again as ds.ReadXml


The RESX files are difficult to deploy, while you can only use it for the
text of a control.

jmo

Cor


"yxq" <gayxq@163.nets chreef in bericht
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Hello,
I want to build the multi-language application with the xml file, how to
do? could anyone tell a sample?
Thank you
>

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

Re: How to build the multi-language application?

"Cor Ligthert[MVP]" <notmyfirstname @planet.nlschri eb:

The RESX files are difficult to deploy, while you can only use it for the
text of a control.

Why deploy ResX files? Localization is typically done at design time and
not after shipping the product on the client's PC. ResX files are compiled
into satellite assemblies automatically.

--
M S Herfried K. Wagner
M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
V B <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/dotnet/faqs/>

[Cor Ligthert[MVP]]

Re: How to build the multi-language application?

Herfried,


Dit you ever heard of an South London guy with the name Nak.

He tried the same as you said, at the end he told he was using what I said
now.

But you don't know who that is of course.

Cor

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"Cor Ligthert[MVP]" <notmyfirstname @planet.nlschri eb:

>The RESX files are difficult to deploy, while you can only use it for the
>text of a control.

>
Why deploy ResX files? Localization is typically done at design time and
not after shipping the product on the client's PC. ResX files are
compiled into satellite assemblies automatically.
>
--
M S Herfried K. Wagner
M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
V B <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/dotnet/faqs/>

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

Re: How to build the multi-language application?

"Cor Ligthert[MVP]" <Notmyfirstname @planet.nlschri eb:

Dit you ever heard of an South London guy with the name Nak.
>
He tried the same as you said, at the end he told he was using what I said
now.
>
But you don't know who that is of course.

Well, I remember him.

Nevertheless, ResX works just fine, especially because it supports
versioning and signing of the resource satellite assemblies. However, it's
not the way to go if the /user/ should be able to localize parts of the
application. Otherwise I am not aware of any problems related to ResX
files.

--
M S Herfried K. Wagner
M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
V B <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/dotnet/faqs/>

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Re: How to build the multi-language application?


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"Cor Ligthert[MVP]" <Notmyfirstname @planet.nlschri eb:

>Dit you ever heard of an South London guy with the name Nak.
>>
>He tried the same as you said, at the end he told he was using what I
>said now.
>>
>But you don't know who that is of course.

>
Well, I remember him.
>
Nevertheless, ResX works just fine, especially because it supports
versioning and signing of the resource satellite assemblies. However,
it's not the way to go if the /user/ should be able to localize parts of
the application. Otherwise I am not aware of any problems related to ResX
files.
>
--
M S Herfried K. Wagner
M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
V B <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/dotnet/faqs/>

I use ResX files and I am very pleased with them, and you can use them for
more than just text on controls,
you can also put al kind of strings in them and use those after that in
messageboxes, etc...
Phil

[Cor Ligthert[MVP]]

Re: How to build the multi-language application?

But in my idea do you have to fill the text yourself, in other words, you
can not take the help from others to fill all the languages. Let say the
official languages of the EU then it are about 40.

For total America there is probably no problem as there are afaik only 5
written languages.

English, Spanish, Portugese, French and Dutch.

Cor

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>"Cor Ligthert[MVP]" <Notmyfirstname @planet.nlschri eb:

>>Dit you ever heard of an South London guy with the name Nak.
>>>
>>He tried the same as you said, at the end he told he was using what I
>>said now.
>>>
>>But you don't know who that is of course.

>>
>Well, I remember him.
>>
>Nevertheless , ResX works just fine, especially because it supports
>versioning and signing of the resource satellite assemblies. However,
>it's not the way to go if the /user/ should be able to localize parts of
>the application. Otherwise I am not aware of any problems related to
>ResX files.
>>
>--
>M S Herfried K. Wagner
>M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
>V B <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/dotnet/faqs/>

>
>
I use ResX files and I am very pleased with them, and you can use them for
more than just text on controls,
you can also put al kind of strings in them and use those after that in
messageboxes, etc...
Phil
>

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Re: How to build the multi-language application?

"Cor Ligthert[MVP]" <notmyfirstname @planet.nlschre ef in bericht
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But in my idea do you have to fill the text yourself, in other words, you
can not take the help from others to fill all the languages. Let say the
official languages of the EU then it are about 40.
>
For total America there is probably no problem as there are afaik only 5
written languages.
>
English, Spanish, Portugese, French and Dutch.
>
Cor

That would be different, we only need English, Dutch and Portuguese, so not
a real problem.

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

Re: How to build the multi-language application?

"Cor Ligthert[MVP]" <notmyfirstname @planet.nlschri eb:

But in my idea do you have to fill the text yourself, in other words, you
can not take the help from others to fill all the languages. Let say the
official languages of the EU then it are about 40.

You can send the ResX files to a localization agent who can localize them
using VS Express. This way even images and other types of resources can be
localized. Even Windows Forms can be localized by another company using
"WinRes.exe ".

--
M S Herfried K. Wagner
M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
V B <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/dotnet/faqs/>

[Grant Frisken]

Re: How to build the multi-language application?

On Oct 29, 12:13 am, "Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hirf-spam-me-
h...@gmx.atwrot e:

>
You can send the ResX files to a localization agent who canlocalizethem
using VS Express.  This way even images and other types of resources can be
localized.  Even Windows Forms can be localized by another company using
"WinRes.exe ".
>

While resx files are good it can be hard to manage localization of
large projects with many resx files and ensure consistency of
translation between different forms and controls. If you use
external translators then you must also manage the change process ie
if you make changes to resources they have already translated how do
you track these and ensure that the changes are translated.

Using the out of the box localization tools you typically follow these
steps: Send the translator the resources to translate. They translate
resources and send them back. You build the application and send it
to the translator for verification. They find issues and you go
through the whole loop again. This process can be quite time
consuming because there is no way for the translator to see or run the
translated forms and controls. For simple forms you can use WinRes
to view and edit form resources. It does not, however, cope well
with complex forms containing custom controls. You could give your
code to the translator and get them to use Visual Studio Express to do
the editing - but do you really want a translator mucking with your
code?

For the above reasons you should consider using a third party tool to
manage the localization process. There are a number of localization
tools on the market including Globalizer.NET (www.infralution.com/
globalizer.html ) which my company Infralution sells. Typically these
tools scan your solution/projects for localizable resources and
consolidate these into a single package that you can send to the
translator. When the translator completes translations they send
them back to you and the tool provides a mechanism to import the
translations and build the localized resource files. You can then
build your application using the standard Visual Studio build
process.

Globalizer.NET in addition to providing these standard localization
management tools provides a free Translator Edition that enables the
translator to preview the actual translated forms and controls as they
translate. The Translator Edition can even build the localized
binary resource assemblies (without requiring your code or Visual
Studio to be installed) which allows the translator to run the fully
localized application without having to go around the build-translate-
build loop.

Regards
Grant Frisken
Infralution

https://www.infralution.com/globalizer.html

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

Re: How to build the multi-language application?

"Grant Frisken" <grant@infralut ion.comschrieb:

>You can send the ResX files to a localization agent who canlocalizethem
>using VS Express. This way even images and other types of resources can
>be
>localized. Even Windows Forms can be localized by another company using
>"WinRes.exe" .

>
>While resx files are good it can be hard to manage localization of
>large projects with many resx files and ensure consistency of
>translation between different forms and controls. If you use
>external translators then you must also manage the change process ie
>if you make changes to resources they have already translated how do
>you track these and ensure that the changes are translated.

I agree, and I believe that VS alone is not the right tool for this purpose!
In addition, modern software engineering methods make the process even more
complicated because of the high number of released versions.

--
M S Herfried K. Wagner
M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
V B <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/dotnet/faqs/>