pymssql - execute loads all results into memory!

[ChaosKCW]

Hi

I am trying to use pymssql, and have an issue where by the execute
(not the fetch) is appearing to load all records into memory.

if I execute

con = pymssql.connect (...)
cur = con.cursor()
cur.execute(sql )
rec = cur.fetchone()

if I put in a query which returns a lot of records into "sql" then the
execute never returns, pythons memory usage slowly ballons till the
machine cant give anymore. If I put a sql query returning only few
rows, then it works fine.

So I am not sure why an execute would feel the need to load all rows,
but its seriously crippling. Does anyone know if this is a bug or
something I can "turn off"

thanks,

[Eric Wertman]

Re: pymssql - execute loads all results into memory!

I am trying to use pymssql, and have an issue where by the execute

(not the fetch) is appearing to load all records into memory.
>
if I execute
>
con = pymssql.connect (...)
cur = con.cursor()
cur.execute(sql )
rec = cur.fetchone()
>
if I put in a query which returns a lot of records into "sql" then the
execute never returns, pythons memory usage slowly ballons till the
machine cant give anymore. If I put a sql query returning only few
rows, then it works fine.
>
So I am not sure why an execute would feel the need to load all rows,
but its seriously crippling. Does anyone know if this is a bug or
something I can "turn off"

I ran into this myself. After some digging I discovered that what you
are after is a server-side cursor that isn't implemented yet in
pymssql. There is one in MySQLdb, but it's not the default behavior.
Regardless of your usage (fetchone vs fetchmany), the result set is
held client side. AFAIK the only workaround is to keep your result
set small (enough). If you use fetchmany and iterate over it
directly, it may keep your memory usage down, I can't remember if
that worked. I definitely tried making a generator with it, that did
not help.

Eric

[Tim Golden]

Re: pymssql - execute loads all results into memory!

Eric Wertman wrote:

>I am trying to use pymssql, and have an issue where by the execute
>(not the fetch) is appearing to load all records into memory.
>>
>if I execute
>>
>con = pymssql.connect (...)
>cur = con.cursor()
>cur.execute(sq l)
>rec = cur.fetchone()
>>
>if I put in a query which returns a lot of records into "sql" then the
>execute never returns, pythons memory usage slowly ballons till the
>machine cant give anymore. If I put a sql query returning only few
>rows, then it works fine.
>>
>So I am not sure why an execute would feel the need to load all rows,
>but its seriously crippling. Does anyone know if this is a bug or
>something I can "turn off"

>
I ran into this myself. After some digging I discovered that what you
are after is a server-side cursor that isn't implemented yet in
pymssql. There is one in MySQLdb, but it's not the default behavior.
Regardless of your usage (fetchone vs fetchmany), the result set is
held client side. AFAIK the only workaround is to keep your result
set small (enough). If you use fetchmany and iterate over it
directly, it may keep your memory usage down, I can't remember if
that worked. I definitely tried making a generator with it, that did
not help.

.... or just switch to pyodbc, for example, which behaves
perfectly well with this snippet against a table of >24 million
rows:

<code>
import pyodbc

conn = [
"Driver={SQ L Server}",
"Server=SVR 17",
"Database=T DI",
"TrustedConnect ion=Yes"
]
db = pyodbc.connect (";".join (conn))
q = db.cursor ()
q.execute ("SELECT * FROM revenue") # 24 million rows
q.fetchone ()
q.close ()

</code>


TJG

[ChaosKCW]

Re: pymssql - execute loads all results into memory!

On Oct 20, 3:38 pm, Tim Golden <m...@timgolden .me.ukwrote:

Eric Wertman wrote:

I am trying to use pymssql, and have an issue where by the execute
(not the fetch) is appearing to load all records into memory.

>

if I execute

>

con = pymssql.connect (...)
cur = con.cursor()
cur.execute(sql )
rec  = cur.fetchone()

>

if I put in a query which returns a lot of records into "sql" then the
execute never returns, pythons memory usage slowly ballons till the
machine cant give anymore. If I put a sql query returning only few
rows, then it works fine.

>

So I am not sure why an execute would feel the need to load all rows,
but its seriously crippling. Does anyone know if this is a bug or
something I can "turn off"

>

I ran into this myself.  After some digging I discovered that what you
are after is a server-side cursor that isn't implemented yet in
pymssql.  There is one in MySQLdb, but it's not the default behavior.
Regardless of your usage (fetchone vs fetchmany), the result set is
held client side.  AFAIK the only workaround is to keep your result
set small (enough).  If you use fetchmany and iterate over it
directly, it may keep your memory usage down,  I can't remember if
that worked.  I definitely tried making a generator with it, that did
not help.

>
... or just switch to pyodbc, for example, which behaves
perfectly well with this snippet against a table of >24 million
rows:
>
<code>
import pyodbc
>
conn = [
  "Driver={SQ L Server}",
  "Server=SVR 17",
  "Database=T DI",
  "TrustedConnect ion=Yes"
]
db = pyodbc.connect (";".join (conn))
q = db.cursor ()
q.execute ("SELECT * FROM revenue") # 24 million rows
q.fetchone ()
q.close ()
>
</code>
>
TJG

Thanks for the responses, I am astounded any db api tool doesnt
support cursors! pymssql is mostly useless, I will switch to an odbc
interface.

[Aspersieman]

Re: pymssql - execute loads all results into memory!

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:14:56 +0200, ChaosKCW <da.martian@gma il.comwrote:

On Oct 20, 3:38 pm, Tim Golden <m...@timgolden .me.ukwrote:

>Eric Wertman wrote:

>I am trying to use pymssql, and have an issue where by the execute
>(not the fetch) is appearing to load all records into memory.

>>

>if I execute

>>

>con = pymssql.connect (...)
>cur = con.cursor()
>cur.execute(sq l)
>rec  = cur.fetchone()

>>

>if I put in a query which returns a lot of records into "sql" then

>the

>execute never returns, pythons memory usage slowly ballons till the
>machine cant give anymore. If I put a sql query returning only few
>rows, then it works fine.

>>

>So I am not sure why an execute would feel the need to load all rows,
>but its seriously crippling. Does anyone know if this is a bug or
>something I can "turn off"

>>

I ran into this myself.  After some digging I discovered that what you
are after is a server-side cursor that isn't implemented yet in
pymssql.  There is one in MySQLdb, but it's not the default behavior.
Regardless of your usage (fetchone vs fetchmany), the result set is
held client side.  AFAIK the only workaround is to keep your result
set small (enough).  If you use fetchmany and iterate over it
directly, it may keep your memory usage down,  I can't remember if
that worked.  I definitely tried making a generator with it, that did
not help.

>>
>... or just switch to pyodbc, for example, which behaves
>perfectly well with this snippet against a table of >24 million
>rows:
>>
><code>
>import pyodbc
>>
>conn = [
>  "Driver={SQ L Server}",
>  "Server=SVR 17",
>  "Database=T DI",
>  "TrustedConnect ion=Yes"
>]
>db = pyodbc.connect (";".join (conn))
>q = db.cursor ()
>q.execute ("SELECT * FROM revenue") # 24 million rows
>q.fetchone ()
>q.close ()
>>
></code>
>>
>TJG

>
Thanks for the responses, I am astounded any db api tool doesnt
support cursors! pymssql is mostly useless, I will switch to an odbc
interface.
--
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Yes this is true, unfortunately.. .

However, pyODBC doesn't support return variables(param eters) in stored
procedures (at least with MS SQL). pymssql is the only db api for python
that I've found that can reliably do this. I've tried adodbapi, pyodbc and
one or two others (can't think of the names now... :-/).

Regards

Nicol

--
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[Tim Golden]

Re: pymssql - execute loads all results into memory!

Aspersieman wrote:

However, pyODBC doesn't support return variables(param eters) in stored
procedures (at least with MS SQL). pymssql is the only db api for python
that I've found that can reliably do this. I've tried adodbapi, pyodbc
and one or two others (can't think of the names now... :-/).

That's a fair point (I'm assuming you're right; I've never tried). That
tends to be a shortcoming of SQL interfaces. However, pymssql is based
on the defunct ntwdblib.dll interface which is becoming harder and harder
to find as of SQL2005. Have you tried putting a feature request in to
the pyodbc team? I've not had anything to do with them for a bit, but
they did implement the .nextset method at my request a couple of years
ago. (That's assuming it's even possible with ODBC in general, which
I also haven't checked).

TJG

[Aspersieman]

Re: pymssql - execute loads all results into memory!

On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:06:37 +0200, Tim Golden <mail@timgolden .me.uk>
wrote:

Aspersieman wrote:

>However, pyODBC doesn't support return variables(param eters) in stored
>procedures (at least with MS SQL). pymssql is the only db api for
>python that I've found that can reliably do this. I've tried adodbapi,
>pyodbc and one or two others (can't think of the names now... :-/).

>
That's a fair point (I'm assuming you're right; I've never tried). That
tends to be a shortcoming of SQL interfaces. However, pymssql is based
on the defunct ntwdblib.dll interface which is becoming harder and harder
to find as of SQL2005. Have you tried putting a feature request in to
the pyodbc team? I've not had anything to do with them for a bit, but
they did implement the .nextset method at my request a couple of years
ago. (That's assuming it's even possible with ODBC in general, which
I also haven't checked).
>
TJG
--

Oh, trust me - I've tried a *LOT*. I aggree, submitting a feature request
is a good idea. I think I'll do that. :)

I did read somewhere (I think on the pyodbc site) that pyodbc isn't DB API
2.0 feature complete yet - so I'll have to probably check if they haven't
already planned this.

Obtaining output parameters from stored procedures is something I have to
do quite often, unfortunately - so maybe I can submit a patch even... :)

Alternatively - I have found the adodbapi quite useful (although it also
doesn't support output parameters), so I might ask them too.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Regards

Nicol

--
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

[Tim Golden]

Re: pymssql - execute loads all results into memory!

Aspersieman wrote:
[... re output params in pymssql / pyodbc ...]

Oh, trust me - I've tried a *LOT*. I aggree, submitting a feature
request is a good idea. I think I'll do that. :)

Looks like someone already has:

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1985956&group_id=162557&atid=824257

I did read somewhere (I think on the pyodbc site) that pyodbc isn't DB
API 2.0 feature complete yet - so I'll have to probably check if they
haven't already planned this.
>
Obtaining output parameters from stored procedures is something I have
to do quite often, unfortunately - so maybe I can submit a patch even... :)

I'm sure that will be more than welcome. Looks like it's a
one-man band (as I guess most projects are) and there aren't
always enough minutes in the day.

TJG