Re: The recent SPAM messages, and a suggested solution

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    Re: The recent SPAM messages, and a suggested solution


    RonI think most of us are annoyed by the recent SPAM messages that
    Roncrept onto our list. I'd like to suggest a possible solution, and
    Ronmaybe start a thread that eventually will rid us of this
    Ronunpleasantne ss.

    RonMy idea:

    RonOnce every few messages from the list owners, they would send a new
    Ronnumerical string that will have to be included in members' list
    Ronsubmission. A message being submitted without this numeric string
    Ronwill be re-routed to /dev/null. The current string will be
    Ronannounced on the messages being send to new members upon
    Ronregistration .

    RonSince SPAM is sent in bulk, this may be a rather complete solution.

    Those of us who manage the the python.org mailing lists are overloaded
    enough as it is. We don't have time to add extra tasks to our daily
    checklists. In addition, ad hoc solutions frequently don't scale well.
    Check http://mail.python.org/ for the full scope of the management problem.
    We run a single SpamBayes instance on mail.python.org which scans for spam
    in almost all those mailing lists. A couple are unfiltered for various
    reasons.

    If you read python-list via Usenet (comp.lang.pyth on in its various guises)
    there's not much we can do to help you. If someone posts crap via Usenet
    you will see it before it reaches the spam filter on mail.python.org . Some
    Usenet servers may provide decent spam filtering. Google Groups appears not
    to, and their spam reporting process requires several steps on your part.
    If you are reading python-list@python.org please feel free to mail me
    (skip@pobox.com ) any spam which sneaks through SpamBayes. I will train them
    as I can, generally about once a day. It would really help if you could
    attach a zip'd or gzip'd copy of the message. Don't just paste a spam
    message into any mail you send me.

    If you read email you get spam. That is an unfortunate fact of life today.
    You should run some sort of spam filter on your system and not rely on
    sysadmins or mailing list admins to filter your mail. My email goes through
    Gmail and I run SpamBayes on my laptop as well. That presents its own set
    of issues (I have to poke around in both filters' traps to find spams which
    sneak through the mail.python.org filters for example), but I generally see
    very little spam. You can get SpamBayes (it's free and written in Python)
    from <http://www.spambayes.o rg/>. There are a number of ways to use it,
    including an Outlook plugin and several more Unix-oriented apps. All use
    the same core classifier. There is a Thunderbird plugin available (google
    for ThunderBayes) which is currently unsupported but which we would like to
    incorporate into the SpamBayes code base. Unfortunately, we are short of
    round tuits. If you'd like to help we can always use more brainpower.

    --
    Skip Montanaro - skip@pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/
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