Please keep the full address

**Mike Driscoll** · Mar 5 '08, 10:05 PM

Re: Please keep the full address

On Mar 5, 3:51 pm, "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <da...@druid.ne twrote:

On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:38:59 -0800 (PST)
>
Mike Driscoll <kyoso...@gmail .comwrote:

On Mar 5, 12:50 pm, castiro...@gmai l.com wrote:

>
I'm not sure why you change the address like this but could you please
include the full address. Those of us who identify the time wasters
would also like to drop the responses to their posts and changing the
address makes this impossible.
>
--
D'Arcy J.M. Cain <da...@druid.ne t | Democracy is three

What are you talking about? I didn't change the address at all. I'm
not even sure what you mean. Are you talking about the post subject
line (which I have never touched in any post)? If you're talking about
the OP's email address, that's Google's fault for cropping them.

Mike

**Ben Finney** · Mar 5 '08, 10:45 PM

Identifying messages in a thread (was: Please keep the full address)

"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <darcy@druid.ne twrites:

On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:38:59 -0800 (PST)
Mike Driscoll <kyosohma@gmail .comwrote:

On Mar 5, 12:50 pm, castiro...@gmai l.com wrote:

>
I'm not sure why you change the address like this but could you
please include the full address.

It's a misfeature of Google's mail interface. The poster to whom
you're responding could choose a different mail interface, but you'll
have a difficult time convincing them of that.

Those of us who identify the time wasters would also like to drop
the responses to their posts and changing the address makes this
impossible.

Not at all. AFAIK the messages from Google mail correctly include the
'In-Reply-To' field or the 'References' field in the message header.
So, you can know by those fields whether a message is part of a thread
you've previously identified.

--
\ "I wish there was a knob on the TV to turn up the intelligence. |
`\ There's a knob called 'brightness' but it doesn't work." -- |
_o__) Eugene P. Gallagher |
Ben Finney <ben@benfinney. id.au>

**D'Arcy J.M. Cain** · Mar 6 '08, 01:15 AM

Re: Please keep the full address

On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:00:17 -0800 (PST)
Mike Driscoll <kyosohma@gmail .comwrote:

What are you talking about? I didn't change the address at all. I'm
not even sure what you mean. Are you talking about the post subject
line (which I have never touched in any post)? If you're talking about
the OP's email address, that's Google's fault for cropping them.

I'm talking about castironpi. I find his posts a waste of my time so I
have them filtered out along with a few others and I also filter out
responses by searching for his address in the body so changing it
defeats that. However, if it is something that you have no control over
I apologize for the noise.

--
D'Arcy J.M. Cain <darcy@druid.ne t | Democracy is three wolves
http://www.druid.net/darcy/ | and a sheep voting on
+1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082) (eNTP) | what's for dinner.

**D'Arcy J.M. Cain** · Mar 6 '08, 01:15 AM

Re: Identifying messages in a thread (was: Please keep the fulladdress)

On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:36:29 +1100
Ben Finney <bignose+hate s-spam@benfinney. id.auwrote:

Those of us who identify the time wasters would also like to drop
the responses to their posts and changing the address makes this
impossible.

>
Not at all. AFAIK the messages from Google mail correctly include the
'In-Reply-To' field or the 'References' field in the message header.
So, you can know by those fields whether a message is part of a thread
you've previously identified.

I don't want to have to tag every thread. I just want to *plonk*
certain posters.

Anyway, I'll live with Google's failings I guess.

--
D'Arcy J.M. Cain <darcy@druid.ne t | Democracy is three wolves
http://www.druid.net/darcy/ | and a sheep voting on
+1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082) (eNTP) | what's for dinner.

**Mike Driscoll** · Mar 6 '08, 02:25 PM

Re: Please keep the full address

On Mar 5, 7:07 pm, "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <da...@druid.ne twrote:

On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:00:17 -0800 (PST)
>
Mike Driscoll <kyoso...@gmail .comwrote:

What are you talking about? I didn't change the address at all. I'm
not even sure what you mean. Are you talking about the post subject
line (which I have never touched in any post)? If you're talking about
the OP's email address, that's Google's fault for cropping them.

>
I'm talking about castironpi. I find his posts a waste of my time so I
have them filtered out along with a few others and I also filter out
responses by searching for his address in the body so changing it
defeats that. However, if it is something that you have no control over
I apologize for the noise.
>
--
D'Arcy J.M. Cain <da...@druid.ne t | Democracy is three wolveshttp://www.druid.net/darcy/ | and a sheep voting on
+1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082) (eNTP) | what's for dinner.

No problem. I wish I could use something other than Google Groups when
I'm at work, but we currently have NNTP disabled...and I haven't found
a good workaround yet.

Mike

**Carl Banks** · Mar 6 '08, 04:05 PM

Re: Identifying messages in a thread (was: Please keep the fulladdress)

On Mar 5, 8:11 pm, "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <da...@druid.ne twrote:

On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:36:29 +1100
>
Ben Finney <bignose+hate s-s...@benfinney. id.auwrote:

Those of us who identify the time wasters would also like to drop
the responses to their posts and changing the address makes this
impossible.

>

Not at all. AFAIK the messages from Google mail correctly include the
'In-Reply-To' field or the 'References' field in the message header.
So, you can know by those fields whether a message is part of a thread
you've previously identified.

>
I don't want to have to tag every thread. I just want to *plonk*
certain posters.
>
Anyway, I'll live with Google's failings I guess.

Sounds like you need better filtering.

A decent news filter should be able not only kill a poster, but also
all followups to that poster recursively.

(No, I don't know of any that do that either.)

Carl Banks

**Carl Banks** · Mar 6 '08, 04:05 PM

Re: Please keep the full address

On Mar 5, 8:07 pm, "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <da...@druid.ne twrote:

On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:00:17 -0800 (PST)
>
Mike Driscoll <kyoso...@gmail .comwrote:

What are you talking about? I didn't change the address at all. I'm
not even sure what you mean. Are you talking about the post subject
line (which I have never touched in any post)? If you're talking about
the OP's email address, that's Google's fault for cropping them.

>
I'm talking about castironpi. I find his posts a waste of my time

"His" posts?

Carl Banks

**D'Arcy J.M. Cain** · Mar 6 '08, 04:45 PM

Re: Please keep the full address

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 08:00:58 -0800 (PST)
Carl Banks <pavlovevidence @gmail.comwrote :

I'm talking about castironpi. I find his posts a waste of my time

>
"His" posts?

Whatever. I'm too old to worry about searching for politically correct,
gender neutral pronouns.

--
D'Arcy J.M. Cain <darcy@druid.ne t | Democracy is three wolves
http://www.druid.net/darcy/ | and a sheep voting on
+1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082) (eNTP) | what's for dinner.

**D'Arcy J.M. Cain** · Mar 6 '08, 04:55 PM

Re: Identifying messages in a thread (was: Please keep the fulladdress)

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:58:06 -0800 (PST)
Carl Banks <pavlovevidence @gmail.comwrote :

I don't want to have to tag every thread. I just want to *plonk*
certain posters.

Anyway, I'll live with Google's failings I guess.

>
Sounds like you need better filtering.
>
A decent news filter should be able not only kill a poster, but also
all followups to that poster recursively.

Actually, I am reading this as a mailing list and since I run Unix and
procmail I am sure that I could set something up if it really starts to
be annoying. So far the simple filters deal with all but a smattering
of problem postings so I don't need to expend the time.

--
D'Arcy J.M. Cain <darcy@druid.ne t | Democracy is three wolves
http://www.druid.net/darcy/ | and a sheep voting on
+1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082) (eNTP) | what's for dinner.

**Carl Banks** · Mar 6 '08, 05:45 PM

Re: Please keep the full address

On Mar 6, 11:41 am, "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <da...@druid.ne twrote:

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 08:00:58 -0800 (PST)
>
Carl Banks <pavlovevide... @gmail.comwrote :

I'm talking about castironpi. I find his posts a waste of my time

>

"His" posts?

>
Whatever. I'm too old to worry about searching for politically correct,
gender neutral pronouns.

I'm pretty sure even the most PC people wouldn't suggest using a
masculine pronoun for an inanimate objects.

(Ok, some probably would.)

Carl Banks

**castironpi@gmail.com** · Mar 6 '08, 06:35 PM

Re: Identifying messages in a thread (was: Please keep the fulladdress)

On Mar 6, 10:47 am, "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <da...@druid.ne twrote:

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:58:06 -0800 (PST)
>
Carl Banks <pavlovevide... @gmail.comwrote :

I don't want to have to tag every thread. I just want to *plonk*
certain posters.

>

Anyway, I'll live with Google's failings I guess.

>

Sounds like you need better filtering.

>

A decent news filter should be able not only kill a poster, but also
all followups to that poster recursively.

>
Actually, I am reading this as a mailing list and since I run Unix and
procmail I am sure that I could set something up if it really starts to
be annoying. So far the simple filters deal with all but a smattering
of problem postings so I don't need to expend the time.

The Google Groups reader doesn't always let you see new replies to
really old messages, something they should change (this means you).
But there is an 'active old threads', but it doesn't catch every one.
I want to read those plonk.

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