Python mascot proposal

[Keith Dart]

Re: Python mascot proposal

Dimitri Tcaciuc wrote:[color=blue]
> Yup, I was aware of the fact of Monty Python roots of the language name.
> However, you will probably agree that a snake is more associative.
>
> Plus, if to use some characteristic MP feature like a giant foot, I'm
> not positive that it won't trigger any copyright issues.[/color]

I prefer an alternate meaning:

2. A diviner by spirits. ``[Manasses] observed omens, and
appointed pythons.'' --4 Kings xxi. 6 (Douay version).


Since Python is a divine language, and conjures up quick solutions to
ghastly problems. And, in the spirit of oracles, reflects the wisdom of
the languages design. 8-)

Now, how about an icon that conveys something like that? hm... smoke
curled around wizard perhaps?


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[Luis M. Gonzalez]

Re: Python mascot proposal

> > But before pushing forward any particular design, maybe it will
make[color=blue][color=green]
> > sense to make some sort of official logo contest on Python's main
> > website and post it on /. ?[/color]
>[/color]

I was waiting for someone to propose that :-)
I'm new to this list and Python in general, but I think that this sort
of things are always decided by Guido.
I think we have two options:

1) Simply start the contest and see what happens. If it attrackts many
competitors, I guess it will be considered by the core developers.
2) Ask for permition and let them define the rules.

Perhaps the BDFL is reading this thread and has something to say about
it?

[EP]

Re: Python mascot proposal

[color=blue]
> It's a great marketing idea. There was a thread recently on Python-dev
> that started with a message from Guido, where he talks about a
> seemingly persistent perception that exists in the specialized press
> regarding Python as a flexible, nice, but generally slow (or slower
> than the alternatives) language. [/color]


Perception of the press: Python is "flexible, nice, but generally slow"

Well, the snake mascot as drawn is, of course, very flexible, appears to befriendly, and is, well, just how fast is a big snake, esp. a python? It'll get there, slithering along, but it doesn't really conjure up a "beaming"betwee n two galaxies in a nanosecond image.

I like Monty (the snake), but perhaps there are liabilities arising from having a mascot (what is the mascot for C++?)

Of course all those speed comparisons on the web don't help either.



EP

"Fast enough is only fast enough for today, not for tomorrow's possibilities. Network speeds will increase by a magnitude, ahead of processing power - then code execution speed will be a limiting factor."

Oh, and while I'm wishing for the Moon, can I have a builtin Prolog/logic object. ;-)

hey, Python is better than I deserve: mucho thanks to Guido and the core Pythonistas...

[Peter Hansen]

Re: Python mascot proposal

EP wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
>>It's a great marketing idea. There was a thread recently on Python-dev
>>that started with a message from Guido, where he talks about a
>>seemingly persistent perception that exists in the specialized press
>>regarding Python as a flexible, nice, but generally slow (or slower
>>than the alternatives) language.[/color]
>
> Perception of the press: Python is "flexible, nice, but generally slow"[/color]

Which press? I know lots of programmers who have religious issues
about (against) Python believe this, or claim to, or want to, but
I haven't seen a lot of "press" coverage of Python's supposed slowness...

Or was this just a guess on your part?

-Peter

[sdeibel@wingware.com]

Re: Python mascot proposal

Please note that to make something official, it has to be passed
through the Python Software Foundation, which holds the intellectual
property for Python and is responsible for trademarks associated with
the language.

If you're serious about doing this, you may want to email "psf at
python dot org" to get information from the board of directors (I'm one
of them, BTW, but I can't speak for the whole group).

It would be nice to have a single strongly identifiable visual
trademark for Python. There are many icons/logos that people have
invented but none that's "official" and having many tends to dilute the
ability to build a strong well-known visual trademark.

- Stephan

[Stephen Kellett]

Re: Python mascot proposal

In message <mailman.7865.1 103211869.5135. python-list@python.org >, EP
<EP@zomething.c om> writes[color=blue]
>Well, the snake mascot as drawn is, of course, very flexible, appears
>to be friendly, and is, well, just how fast is a big snake, esp. a
>python?[/color]

I don't know about Pythons but there is a black snake in Africa (a black
mamba?) that when it stands up is taller than a man. This snake can out
"run" a man in straight line or over rough ground. I saw a TV program
where they'd attached a camera to its head. Absolutely incredible
watching this thing whizzing through the undergrowth in search of a
mate. Don't think all snakes are slow - they aren't.

BTW. The suggestions - I like them, for what little that is worth.

Stephen
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[Luis M. Gonzalez]

Re: Python mascot proposal

Stephan,

Since you're one of the directors of the Python Software Foundation,
could you let them know about this discussion in order to get their
approval?
If they agree, maybe you can tell us where and how to held the contest.

Just one thought:
I think that it would be good to not determine a deadline for the
contest.
We should let anyone submit their designs until a clear winner shows
up, or until Guido or the board of directors chooses a winner.

[Carlos Ribeiro]

Re: Python mascot proposal

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 11:51:18 -0500, Peter Hansen <peter@engcorp. com> wrote:[color=blue]
> EP wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
> >>It's a great marketing idea. There was a thread recently on Python-dev
> >>that started with a message from Guido, where he talks about a
> >>seemingly persistent perception that exists in the specialized press
> >>regarding Python as a flexible, nice, but generally slow (or slower
> >>than the alternatives) language.[/color]
> >
> > Perception of the press: Python is "flexible, nice, but generally slow"[/color]
>
> Which press? I know lots of programmers who have religious issues
> about (against) Python believe this, or claim to, or want to, but
> I haven't seen a lot of "press" coverage of Python's supposed slowness...
>
> Or was this just a guess on your part?[/color]

Check Guido's original message on the topic, you can find it on
python-dev articles. It`s recenet -- possibly less than one week old.
He seemed to be sincerely concerned about it, having read an article
published at some prestigious academic journal (something from ACM or
IEEE, I think). If the BDFL wrote it, what more can I say? ;-)

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[kdahlhaus@yahoo.com]

Re: Python mascot proposal

> http://exogen.cwru.edu/python2.png

Wow, that's sharp!

[kdahlhaus@yahoo.com]

Re: Python mascot proposal

I just noticed the link - are you at Case in Cleveland? I'm in
Brooklyn (OH).

[Nick Vargish]

Re: Python mascot proposal

"EP" <EP@zomething.c om> writes:
[color=blue]
> (what is the mascot for C++?)[/color]

I can't seem to find a goatse link... (But I didn't try very hard.)

Nick

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