globals and super globals

[John]

Hi,

I'm looking for the best way to deal with globals in PHP.

As a 'C' software developer, I would normally avoid all
globals and not have any at all, but use structs and pass
everything in the function parameters...

However, being realistic, I can see that globals can (and
do ?) have a place in PHP web scripts.


As I see it, there are two approaches:

1) go with globals,

2) avoid globals.


Looking at (1)
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Sure, I can just put a 'global $a' at the start of every
function that requires the use of the global '$a', but its
an easy mistake to forget this, and would not cause an error
('$a' will be read as NULL).

So, is there a way for a script to declare that a variable
should be a 'superglobal', just like $_SERVER is.

If not - could this be a useful addition to PHP ?


Looking at (2)
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If I put all my globals into an array/hashtable, eg.

$superglobal['a'] = 'hello world';

then this emulates the idea of a 'struct' in 'C', and I can
pass it through all my functions (or not bother with doing
that and use it as my one and only global).


Questions
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I prefer the idea of (2), but I wonder if its just going too
far ? Would anyone suggest what the prefered way of having and
using globals is ?

Could 'SUPERGLONAL' be added to PHP, to decalre a variable to be
superglobal ?

All thoughts welcome...

John.

[Michael Fesser]

Re: globals and super globals

.oO(John)
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>Sure, I can just put a 'global $a' at the start of every
>function that requires the use of the global '$a', but its
>an easy mistake to forget this, and would not cause an error
>('$a' will be read as NULL).[/color]

PHP will show a notice when attempting to read an unitialized variable.
This requires error_reporting set to E_ALL, which is not the default,
but a _must_ on a development system.

Another option to avoid globals could be OOP.

Micha

[Ewoud Dronkert]

Re: globals and super globals

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:41:08 +0000, John wrote:[color=blue]
> If I put all my globals into an array/hashtable, eg.[/color]

You could use $_SESSION for that. Not sure if it requires a
session_start() though, never used it without.

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[rushi.v@gmail.com]

Re: globals and super globals

As a C developer myself I don't like the use of globals, so i just pass
the variables into a function. A lot of my code is split up into
functions so I don't have much of a problem.

But #2 is pretty good too.

Rushi

[Colin McKinnon]

Re: globals and super globals

John wrote:
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>
> Hi,
>[/color]
Hi yerself,
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> Could 'SUPERGLONAL' be added to PHP, to decalre a variable to be
> superglobal ?
>[/color]

Already there. Only it's called $GLOBALS

C.

[John]

Re: globals and super globals

Colin,

$GLOBALS is just a list of your global variables - it does not
make them 'superglobal'.

John.
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>>Could 'SUPERGLONAL' be added to PHP, to decalre a variable to be
>>superglobal ?
>>[/color]
>
>
> Already there. Only it's called $GLOBALS
>
> C.[/color]

[Wayne]

Re: globals and super globals

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:41:08 +0000, John <john.walsh@min i-net.co.uk>
wrote:
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>Sure, I can just put a 'global $a' at the start of every
>function that requires the use of the global '$a', but its
>an easy mistake to forget this, and would not cause an error
>('$a' will be read as NULL).[/color]

As others have mentioned, if you set your error level high enough
(E_ALL) than you'll get notices for any undefined variable accesses.
But that's still not the greatest solution.

Whenever I use globals I always use the $GLOBALS array and not the
global keyword.

In PHP5, I don't use "globals" at all instead I use static class
variables which avoids all these scoping issues.
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>I prefer the idea of (2), but I wonder if its just going too
>far ?[/color]

Seriously, you want to use objects and classes. You can avoid using
globals for nearly everything if your project is propertly organized
into classes. I have a HUGE project and I generally only use globals
for temporary caching.
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>Would anyone suggest what the prefered way of having and
>using globals is ?[/color]

I believe the $GLOBALS array is preferred over the global keyword. In
fact, I haven't used the global keyword in a very a long time.

Later,

[Chung Leong]

Re: globals and super globals

"John" <john.walsh@min i-net.co.uk> wrote in message
news:111ua6qbrd 0ul21@corp.supe rnews.com...[color=blue]
> Questions
> =========
>
> I prefer the idea of (2), but I wonder if its just going too
> far ? Would anyone suggest what the prefered way of having and
> using globals is ?
>
> Could 'SUPERGLONAL' be added to PHP, to decalre a variable to be
> superglobal ?[/color]

You can't create your own superglobal, though what you can do is hijack one
of the existing ones:

$_ENV = $mystuff;

Not a civil way to program though.

Being an old timer, I consider superglobals sacrilegious. The global keyword
was one of PHP's key innovations. The language actually discourages you from
using global variable.