How would you rate web(server side) development?

[Ramza Brown]

I have been doing web development for 4 years(5 from college). I
consider web development, even with the best of the best tools a painful
excercise. I am comparing this to GUI or CLI development. There are so
many components, databases, caching, middleware component, clustering,
the interface, interoperabilit y.

You have to build webflow, work with possibly hundreds of pages, on and
on, web servers.

Anybody agree? Or am I just a lazy, bored man?

If somebody can make a tool to make all this seamless, they will take
over the world.

[felixp7@yahoo.com]

Re: How would you rate web(server side) development?

> I have been doing web development for 4 years(5 from college). I[color=blue]
> consider web development, even with the best of the best tools a painful
> excercise. I am comparing this to GUI or CLI development. There are so
> many components, databases, caching, middleware component, clustering,
> the interface, interoperabilit y.[/color]

Why, most of these components are present in local applications as
well,
except they are less obvious, i.e. you don't have to think about them
as
such. But they *are* there and you *must* handle them anyway.
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> Anybody agree? Or am I just a lazy, bored man?[/color]

I though you were supposed to be lazy, as a programmer :-)
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> If somebody can make a tool to make all this seamless, they will take
> over the world.[/color]

Correct me if I'm wrong: servlets supposedly do that, and they hadn't
taken over the world last time I checked. Are you looking for miracle
solutions by any chance? Because there aren't any, you know.

Cheers,
Felix

[lkrubner@geocities.com]

Re: How would you rate web(server side) development?

>There are so[color=blue]
>many components, databases, caching, middleware component, clustering,
>the interface, interoperabilit y.[/color]

On a lot of projects, on the web and off the web, the interface is
designed by someone other than the person doing the programming. It
would have to be a very small project for one person to do all of that.
If you are doing web development where the programmer has to worry
about how things look on screen, thenn you haven't done a very good job
of separating the content from the formatting of that content.

[felixp7@yahoo.com]

Re: How would you rate web(server side) development?

lkrubner@geocit ies.com wrote:
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> If you are doing web development where the programmer has to worry
> about how things look on screen, thenn you haven't done a very good job
> of separating the content from the formatting of that content.[/color]

You may not have to worry about how things look on screen,
but you do have to know what fields must go on each form
and how state is maintained between the interface and logic
layers. In other words, the UI may be technically separated
from the logic, but they are semantically connected anyway.
The man is right, you have plenty of things to worry about.

As for application size, let me ask you a question: how about
application complexity? And don't tell me they are related :D

Cheers,
Felix