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Re: PROGRAMMERS Wanted
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 22:49:44 +0000 (UTC) in
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"Damian Brown" <damian@phpexpe rt.org> wrote:
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Price per hour is?
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Re: PROGRAMMERS Wanted
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 23:03:52 GMT, "Ian.H [dS]" <ian@WINDOZEdig iserv.net> wrote:
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>"Damian Brown" <damian@phpspam .spam> wrote:
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>> www.phpspam.spam
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>Price per hour is?[/color]
Not much if the website is anything to go by.
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Re: PROGRAMMERS Wanted
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 00:16:05 +0100 in
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Andy Hassall <andy@andyh.co. uk> wrote:
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> On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 23:03:52 GMT, "Ian.H [dS]"
> <ian@WINDOZEdig iserv.net> wrote:
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> >On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 22:49:44 +0000 (UTC) in
> ><message-id:bhp0q8$g59$1 @titan.btintern et.com>
> >"Damian Brown" <damian@phpspam .spam> wrote:
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> >> www.phpspam.spam
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> >Price per hour is?[/color]
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> Not much if the website is anything to go by.[/color]
lol.. you researched more than I did ;)
I remember this site being posted a while back with a similarly worded
question (albeit the same question).. it's a sad state of affairs if
they have to "advertise" for coders in this method.
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Re: PROGRAMMERS Wanted
i currently employ a very good programmer in Canada
i pay supposedly $10 per hour
but it works out at about $10 for 2 simple bug fixes
as i am out of practice with programming
and make many mistakes with syntax
also, despite the name phpexpert,
i am no expert as i am learning php
and mysql at the moment
i am looking for programmers for each
country in the world - as not only will
you program, but market the company as well
if you live in the UK you can FREEphone
0800 019 0924 to discuss any rate of pay
Regards,
Damian
www.phpexpert.org
damian@phpexper t.org
"Ian.H [dS]" <ian@WINDOZEdig iserv.net> wrote in message
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> "Damian Brown" <damian@phpexpe rt.org> wrote:
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> Price per hour is?
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> Regards,
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> Ian
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Re: PROGRAMMERS Wanted
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 23:39:21 +0000 (UTC) in
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"Damian Brown" <damian@phpexpe rt.org> wrote:
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> i currently employ a very good programmer in Canada
> i pay supposedly $10 per hour
> but it works out at about $10 for 2 simple bug fixes
> as i am out of practice with programming
> and make many mistakes with syntax
> also, despite the name phpexpert,
> i am no expert as i am learning php
> and mysql at the moment
> i am looking for programmers for each
> country in the world - as not only will
> you program, but market the company as well
> if you live in the UK you can FREEphone
> 0800 019 0924 to discuss any rate of pay[/color]
LOL!
Let me see... $10 in UK money is ~£6.26... I wouldn't get out of bed for
that! What are you going to do, when someone says they want £30+ an
hour? My guess.. is have a mini cardiacarrest.
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Ian.H [dS] wrote:
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> On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 23:39:21 +0000 (UTC) in
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> "Damian Brown" <damian@phpexpe rt.org> wrote:
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>> i currently employ a very good programmer in Canada
>> i pay supposedly $10 per hour
>> but it works out at about $10 for 2 simple bug fixes
>> as i am out of practice with programming
>> and make many mistakes with syntax
>> also, despite the name phpexpert,
>> i am no expert as i am learning php
>> and mysql at the moment
>> i am looking for programmers for each
>> country in the world - as not only will
>> you program, but market the company as well
>> if you live in the UK you can FREEphone
>> 0800 019 0924 to discuss any rate of pay[/color]
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> LOL!
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> Let me see... $10 in UK money is ~£6.26... I wouldn't get out of bed for
> that! What are you going to do, when someone says they want £30+ an
> hour? My guess.. is have a mini cardiacarrest.
>
>[/color]
Out of curiosity, what kind of projects, size, type, timescales, etc
do you have, and who's architecting them?
What IP rights arrangements are there?
Who's doing the selling?
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Re: PROGRAMMERS Wanted
i am "architecti ng" the projects
my first project has 13 customers waiting
on a 30 day free trial
i am doing the selling/marketing
this first project i would like to finish by friday
so it can be up and running by the weekend
if you are from the UK and can help me in the mornings
then please email me at damian@phpexper t.org
or phone me on 0800 019 0924
i will pay a basic plus commission
Regards,
Damian
www.phpexpert.org
UK FREEphone 0800 019 0924
"matty" <matt+nntp@askm enoquestions.co .uk> wrote in message
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> Ian.H [dS] wrote:
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> > On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 23:39:21 +0000 (UTC) in
> > <message-id:bhp3n9$kh2$1 @hercules.btint ernet.com>
> > "Damian Brown" <damian@phpexpe rt.org> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> i currently employ a very good programmer in Canada
> >> i pay supposedly $10 per hour
> >> but it works out at about $10 for 2 simple bug fixes
> >> as i am out of practice with programming
> >> and make many mistakes with syntax
> >> also, despite the name phpexpert,
> >> i am no expert as i am learning php
> >> and mysql at the moment
> >> i am looking for programmers for each
> >> country in the world - as not only will
> >> you program, but market the company as well
> >> if you live in the UK you can FREEphone
> >> 0800 019 0924 to discuss any rate of pay[/color]
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> > LOL!
> >
> > Let me see... $10 in UK money is ~£6.26... I wouldn't get out of bed for
> > that! What are you going to do, when someone says they want £30+ an
> > hour? My guess.. is have a mini cardiacarrest.
> >
> >[/color]
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> Out of curiosity, what kind of projects, size, type, timescales, etc
> do you have, and who's architecting them?
>
> What IP rights arrangements are there?
>
> Who's doing the selling?[/color]
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Re: PROGRAMMERS Wanted
it is $10 US per couple of bug fixes
which works out at about $30 per hour
plus commission on any sales
if you can help, then email me
at damian@phpexper t.org
or UK FREEphone 0800 019 0924
international ++44 1254 674322
Regards,
Damian
www.phpexpert.org
UK FREEphone 0800 019 0924
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> On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 23:39:21 +0000 (UTC), Damian Brown hath writ:[color=green]
> > i currently employ a very good programmer in Canada
> > i pay supposedly $10 per hour[/color]
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> !!!!!!!!!! ??????????????? ??
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> $10cdn ?????
> WalMart "greeters" get more than that!
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Re: PROGRAMMERS Wanted
Damian Brown wrote:
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> i am "architecti ng" the projects
> my first project has 13 customers waiting
> on a 30 day free trial
> i am doing the selling/marketing
> this first project i would like to finish by friday
> so it can be up and running by the weekend
> if you are from the UK and can help me in the mornings
> then please email me at damian@phpexper t.org
> or phone me on 0800 019 0924
> i will pay a basic plus commission
>
> Regards,
> Damian
> www.phpexpert.org
> UK FREEphone 0800 019 0924
> "matty" <matt+nntp@askm enoquestions.co .uk> wrote in message
> news:1dV%a.8169 $z7.915238@ward s.force9.net...[color=green]
>> Ian.H [dS] wrote:
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It doesn't take a genius to realise from my email address that
I probably am in the UK...
I have to say, though, based on the code in use at PHPExpert.org, I
don't see how I could help - what kind of level do you code at?
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Ian,
it's only marketing, but $30 sounds better than £19.48
and it definitely sounds better than £40 or $61.60
i only want bug fixing help in the mornings
as my canadian employee can help me out at other times
if you can help me with bug fixing at whatever rate
you deem reasonable them email me at
damian@phpexper t.org
or phone 0800 019 0924
if you help me get the project online by this friday
then i will pay you at least £40 per hour
i know the bounds of programmers
most programmers can't market or be a salesman
i am looking for those programmers who have
a bit of wit about them and can represent
a company in good humour to customers worldwide
most of the marketing will be done by email
so there is no face-to-face pressure for programmers
believe me, when i say, it is easier to market a product
than to develop it in the first place, programmers don't
market because they can't or because they have never
learnt how to market, and some programmers just
haven't got the knack
i detect from your writings that you won't be a
hopeless marketer, not that i am a perfect judge
or perfect marketer, but i do know i have 13
customers waiting for this first project and i
also know the competition is tough
Regards,
Damian
www.phpexpert.org
UK FREEphone 0800 019 0924
"Ian.H [dS]" <ian@WINDOZEdig iserv.net> wrote in message
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"Damian Brown" <damian@phpexpe rt.org> wrote:
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> let me know if you are interested and tell me if
> $30 per hour is fair enough,[/color]
You live (or appear to from your headers) to like in the UK.. so why are
all your prices so far in $? (just curious).
Even so, when I talk to other UK people regarding contracts, I discuss
monetary values in Pound Sterling, but my honest opinion, is if I
contact you and say I want £40 (yes, that's 40 UK Sterling Pounds) you
are going to laugh.
Still.. if you feel that you can afford to pay that sort of hourly rate
(remembering of course, I'm not going to be accepting 100% on completion
/ handover of the work due to the nature of this type of agreement),
feel free to contact me and outline your proposals.
A heads-up; I don't work on a commission basis, it's either 100% on
handover, or it's not at all, as I think you'll find with most
programmers.
Your primary objective IMO though, is to learn to differentiate between
a programmer and a marketer.. there is a big difference, and although
I'm sure many marketers would love to be programmers, I'm sure the same
figures do not apply for the reverse.
Regards,
Ian
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Re: PROGRAMMERS Wanted
matty,
i detected you were from the UK
it's getting late in the morning
can you help me to bug fix in the mornings ?
i don't know what code you have looked at
at www.phpexpert.org, but the type of coding
will be of php and mysql, i can code from
machine code/assembler up to high level languages,
but i am out of practice and get many syntax errors
and so i need help in bug fixing
i feel, with help, i can get this project done by
friday and run it by the weekend
i don't know whether you say you don't see how you
could help because you aren't capable or because you beleive
the level of coding is below you, but i tell you,
this project needs a bit of clever coding with multiple tables
in a database and decisions on sending email messages
it should be very challenging and interesting
if you can help, then please email me at
damian@phpexper t.org
or freephone 0800 019 0924
Regards,
Damian
www.phpexpert.org
"matty" <matt+nntp@askm enoquestions.co .uk> wrote in message
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> Damian Brown wrote:
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> > i am "architecti ng" the projects
> > my first project has 13 customers waiting
> > on a 30 day free trial
> > i am doing the selling/marketing
> > this first project i would like to finish by friday
> > so it can be up and running by the weekend
> > if you are from the UK and can help me in the mornings
> > then please email me at damian@phpexper t.org
> > or phone me on 0800 019 0924
> > i will pay a basic plus commission
> >
> > Regards,
> > Damian
> > www.phpexpert.org
> > UK FREEphone 0800 019 0924
> > "matty" <matt+nntp@askm enoquestions.co .uk> wrote in message
> > news:1dV%a.8169 $z7.915238@ward s.force9.net...[color=darkred]
> >> Ian.H [dS] wrote:
> >>[/color][/color]
>
> It doesn't take a genius to realise from my email address that
> I probably am in the UK...
>
> I have to say, though, based on the code in use at PHPExpert.org, I
> don't see how I could help - what kind of level do you code at?[/color]
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Re: PROGRAMMERS Wanted
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 01:50:33 +0000 (UTC) in
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"Damian Brown" <damian@phpexpe rt.org> wrote:
Thanks Damian.. reported to abuse@bt for Usenet spamming.. I hope you
enjoyed your time with your account.. and you expected professionals to
deal with people like you? I strongly suggest living on this planet for
a while.
Regards,
Ian
PS: It would really help to learn about "winding up". Did you _really_
think I was serious? A great reply quote from 'Andy Dingley' in another
group regarding a very similar issue:
I asked her for credit, she answered me nay,
saying 'Custom like yours I can get any day'
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ian,
you had me going until i saw your PS
i have already been done for supposedly spamming
i am being careful with www.phpexpert.org
i would just like to know if you would like to
work with me on this first project,
i will meet your wage demands
please, either email me at damian@phpexper t.org
or phone free on 0800 019 0924
let me think that i've achieved something
staying up all night
Regards,
Damian
www.phpexpert.org
UK FREEphone 0800 019 0924
++44 1254 674322
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> On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 01:50:33 +0000 (UTC) in
> <message-id:bhpbd9$2jr$1 @titan.btintern et.com>
> "Damian Brown" <damian@phpexpe rt.org> wrote:
>
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> Thanks Damian.. reported to abuse@bt for Usenet spamming.. I hope you
> enjoyed your time with your account.. and you expected professionals to
> deal with people like you? I strongly suggest living on this planet for
> a while.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Ian
>
> PS: It would really help to learn about "winding up". Did you _really_
> think I was serious? A great reply quote from 'Andy Dingley' in another
> group regarding a very similar issue:
>
>
> I asked her for credit, she answered me nay,
> saying 'Custom like yours I can get any day'
>
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 01:33:44 +0000 (UTC) in
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"Damian Brown" <damian@phpexpe rt.org> wrote:
Regular PHP group users:
Please accept my apologies for this x-post, but I believe this person
should be made publically known as a menace.
Not only has he continued to spam these groups, he persists with it to
private e-mail, and further, onto telephone calls too.
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Damian,
1:> I don't want your e-mails
2:> What does it take to get this message through your peanut head?
3:> If you contact my number once more, this will become a legal
issue
Now go drag your spamming little arse back under your stupid, clueless
little rock and go forth and multiply.
Regards,
Ian
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