What is the best chmod for a fopen/fwrite?

[FFMG]

Hi,

My users can upload images in a folder on my system.
What minimum attribute should I give the created, (@fopen($new_fi le,
'wb');), files and folder?

I limit the extension of files, (images), but I want to prevent them
from executing any code on the server.

What attributes would you suggest?

FFMG


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[Sanders Kaufman]

Re: What is the best chmod for a fopen/fwrite?

FFMG wrote:

Hi,
>
My users can upload images in a folder on my system.
What minimum attribute should I give the created, (@fopen($new_fi le,
'wb');), files and folder?
>
I limit the extension of files, (images), but I want to prevent them
from executing any code on the server.
>
What attributes would you suggest?

Just a note about this.
I found out a few years ago that you also should strip header
information out of GIF images. You can put PHP code in there, and it
executed when the gif is displayed.

Freaky.

[gosha bine]

Re: What is the best chmod for a fopen/fwrite?

On 25.07.2007 07:47 FFMG wrote:

Hi,
>
My users can upload images in a folder on my system.
What minimum attribute should I give the created, (@fopen($new_fi le,
'wb');), files and folder?
>
I limit the extension of files, (images), but I want to prevent them
from executing any code on the server.
>
What attributes would you suggest?
>
FFMG
>

A file must be readable by the webserver, so if php runs as web server
user, the minimal chmod would be 400. However, if you want to access it
in other ways, e.g. per FTP under your own credentials, you have to
grant it 444 or even 666 (== read-write by everyone - this does not mean
"by everyone on the web" though)

Code execution has in general nothing to do with permissions. Webserver
will only execute a file if explicitly instructed to execute files with
given extension. So, if the file extension is ".php" it will be
executed, if the extension is ".gif" it won't, even if it contains
chunks of php code.

That is, the protection from "remote execution" attacks of this kind is
quite simple: if you offer file uploads, always make sure file extension
matches its content and only allow extensions from your whitelist.


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[FFMG]

Re: What is the best chmod for a fopen/fwrite?


Sanders Kaufman;83072 Wrote:

FFMG wrote:

Hi,

My users can upload images in a folder on my system.
What minimum attribute should I give the created, (@fopen($new_fi le,
'wb');), files and folder?

I limit the extension of files, (images), but I want to prevent them
from executing any code on the server.

What attributes would you suggest?

>
>
Just a note about this.
I found out a few years ago that you also should strip header
information out of GIF images. You can put PHP code in there, and it
executed when the gif is displayed.
>
Freaky.

More the reason why I should prevent the 'image' from executing.

So what attributes should I set then?

FFMG


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[Michael Fesser]

Re: What is the best chmod for a fopen/fwrite?

..oO(FFMG)

>Sanders Kaufman;83072 Wrote:
>

>Just a note about this.
>I found out a few years ago that you also should strip header
>information out of GIF images. You can put PHP code in there, and it
>executed when the gif is displayed.

>
>More the reason why I should prevent the 'image' from executing.

Whether the webserver will "execute" a file primarily depends on the
file extension. A file myImage.gif.php doesn't even have to have any
execution bits set - if the server can read it, PHP can load and
interpret it.

>So what attributes should I set then?

Nothing special. The file just has to be readable for the webserver.

Just keep an eye on the file extension, especially if you allow users to
directly access their uploaded files:

http://example.com/user/myImage.gif.php

Or use a script to deliver the files to the user, so the webserver won't
even try to handle the file it on its own.

Micha

[C.]

Re: What is the best chmod for a fopen/fwrite?

On 25 Jul, 07:27, Sanders Kaufman <bu...@kaufman. netwrote:

FFMG wrote:

Hi,

>

My users can upload images in a folder on my system.
What minimum attribute should I give the created, (@fopen($new_fi le,
'wb');), files and folder?

>

I limit the extension of files, (images), but I want to prevent them
from executing any code on the server.

>

What attributes would you suggest?

>

What is your security model?

I'd usually go with drwxrSxr-x for upload dirs (with a group including
webserver uid and web developer uids) and -rw-rw-r-- for files. But a
group excluding web server uid for non-uploaded content.

Just a note about this.
I found out a few years ago that you also should strip header
information out of GIF images. You can put PHP code in there, and it
executed when the gif is displayed.
>

This only applies if the PHP parsing engine is invoked on the file.
This is usually determined by the file extension:

I limit the extension of files,

But its probably better practice to convert to a different img format
and back again using GD to be on the safe side.

C.

[Rik]

Re: What is the best chmod for a fopen/fwrite?

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 08:27:55 +0200, Sanders Kaufman <bucky@kaufman. net>
wrote:

Just a note about this.
I found out a few years ago that you also should strip header
information out of GIF images. You can put PHP code in there, and it
executed when the gif is displayed.

Only on lousy webserver setups.
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[Toby A Inkster]

Re: What is the best chmod for a fopen/fwrite?

gosha bine wrote:

Code execution has in general nothing to do with permissions.

Unless CGI is available on the server, in which case the execute bit is
rather important.

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[gosha bine]

Re: What is the best chmod for a fopen/fwrite?

On 27.07.2007 16:05 Toby A Inkster wrote:

gosha bine wrote:
>

>Code execution has in general nothing to do with permissions.

>
Unless CGI is available on the server, in which case the execute bit is
rather important.
>

Agreed, good point. ;)

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