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  • Aggelos
    #1

    Version Control - What is the best way forward

    I want to start developing a simple Content Management System and
    having done that before I know there is a point where you can't manage
    different versions of applications unless you have a sollution like
    version control.

    I was thinking of having something like one installation for the whole
    server, but some of you said that this might have security risks.

    So I've tried to look into SVN which I was told that will do what I
    like to do.

    So if I have 10 websites with one Content Management System and one
    development version that is tracked from SVN, I can then upload a
    working version, in all my 10 sites.

    The problem I am facing at the moment is I don't understand where the
    SVN should be running.

    I use a Dedicated Linux server which is fully managed and I can't
    really play with it, otherwise I lose the support and ofcourse I don't
    want that to happen.
    And I am doing all the coding on a windows PC using dreamweaver for my
    text editor.

    Where would the SVN sit ? can someone tell me ? Is it worth to run a
    virtual machine or a second home PC as a webserver and testing
    environment ?

    I am happy to listen to any suggestions and different setups you use
    for development. Either that is work or home.

    Thank you.
    Angelos.

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    • Michael Fesser
      #2
      Re: Version Control - What is the best way forward

      ..oO(Aggelos)
      >I want to start developing a simple Content Management System and
      >having done that before I know there is a point where you can't manage
      >different versions of applications unless you have a sollution like
      >version control.
      >
      >I was thinking of having something like one installation for the whole
      >server, but some of you said that this might have security risks.
      Depends on how it's implemented and used. My own framework consists of a
      common library shared across all projects and some project-specific
      extensions. If multiple sites are hosted on the same server and same
      account, I only have to store the lib once for all hosted projects.
      >So I've tried to look into SVN which I was told that will do what I
      >like to do.
      CVS and its successor SVN are used to maintain the source code tree with
      a full version history. It allows to checkout working versions from any
      arbitrary point in version history, while development and testing can be
      done in parallel.
      >So if I have 10 websites with one Content Management System and one
      >development version that is tracked from SVN, I can then upload a
      >working version, in all my 10 sites.
      Yep.
      >The problem I am facing at the moment is I don't understand where the
      >SVN should be running.
      Usually on a dedicated development server.
      >I use a Dedicated Linux server which is fully managed and I can't
      >really play with it, otherwise I lose the support and ofcourse I don't
      >want that to happen.
      >And I am doing all the coding on a windows PC using dreamweaver for my
      >text editor.
      >
      >Where would the SVN sit ? can someone tell me ? Is it worth to run a
      >virtual machine or a second home PC as a webserver and testing
      >environment ?
      I would say yes. In my own LAN at home there's my workstation running
      WinXP and Linux (whatever I need at the moment). In addition there's a
      small Debian Linux box (an old Pentium 3 with 550MHz), acting as a
      dedicated server. It runs a full featured Apache2 webserver with PHP,
      database etc., some SVN repositories and a lot of other LAN services
      (DHCP, NTP, DNS, fileserver, ...)

      Development is done on the workstation using shared network drives from
      the server (Samba) and the Eclipse IDE. After finishing and testing some
      (sub)project, the files are deployed via FTP to the real public servers,
      either by hand with SmartFTP or using Eclipse's own team synchronization
      features, even if some of them are still a bit buggy.

      Micha

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        • lawrence k
          #3
          Re: Version Control - What is the best way forward

          On Jul 13, 10:29 am, Aggelos <djje...@gmail. comwrote:
          So I've tried to look into SVN which I was told that will do what I
          like to do.
          >
          So if I have 10 websites with one Content Management System and one
          development version that is tracked from SVN, I can then upload a
          working version, in all my 10 sites.
          >
          The problem I am facing at the moment is I don't understand where the
          SVN should be running.
          >
          I use a Dedicated Linux server which is fully managed and I can't
          really play with it, otherwise I lose the support and ofcourse I don't
          want that to happen.
          And I am doing all the coding on a windows PC using dreamweaver for my
          text editor.
          >
          Where would the SVN sit ? can someone tell me ? Is it worth to run a
          virtual machine or a second home PC as a webserver and testing
          environment ?
          A bunch of places offer cheap Subversion accounts, for $10 or $15 a
          month, and with plenty of space to host your project.

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            • Aggelos
              #4
              Re: Version Control - What is the best way forward

              On Jul 13, 5:15 pm, Michael Fesser <neti...@gmx.de wrote:
              .oO(Aggelos)
              >
              I want to start developing a simple Content Management System and
              having done that before I know there is a point where you can't manage
              different versions of applications unless you have a sollution like
              version control.
              >
              I was thinking of having something like one installation for the whole
              server, but some of you said that this might have security risks.
              >
              Depends on how it's implemented and used. My own framework consists of a
              common library shared across all projects and some project-specific
              extensions. If multiple sites are hosted on the same server and same
              account, I only have to store the lib once for all hosted projects.
              >
              So I've tried to look into SVN which I was told that will do what I
              like to do.
              >
              CVS and its successor SVN are used to maintain the source code tree with
              a full version history. It allows to checkout working versions from any
              arbitrary point in version history, while development and testing can be
              done in parallel.
              >
              So if I have 10 websites with one Content Management System and one
              development version that is tracked from SVN, I can then upload a
              working version, in all my 10 sites.
              >
              Yep.
              >
              The problem I am facing at the moment is I don't understand where the
              SVN should be running.
              >
              Usually on a dedicated development server.
              >
              I use a Dedicated Linux server which is fully managed and I can't
              really play with it, otherwise I lose the support and ofcourse I don't
              want that to happen.
              And I am doing all the coding on a windows PC using dreamweaver for my
              text editor.
              >
              Where would the SVN sit ? can someone tell me ? Is it worth to run a
              virtual machine or a second home PC as a webserver and testing
              environment ?
              >
              I would say yes. In my own LAN at home there's my workstation running
              WinXP and Linux (whatever I need at the moment). In addition there's a
              small Debian Linux box (an old Pentium 3 with 550MHz), acting as a
              dedicated server. It runs a full featured Apache2 webserver with PHP,
              database etc., some SVN repositories and a lot of other LAN services
              (DHCP, NTP, DNS, fileserver, ...)
              >
              Development is done on the workstation using shared network drives from
              the server (Samba) and the Eclipse IDE. After finishing and testing some
              (sub)project, the files are deployed via FTP to the real public servers,
              either by hand with SmartFTP or using Eclipse's own team synchronization
              features, even if some of them are still a bit buggy.
              >
              Micha
              Thanks very much for your reply.
              Just the fact that I know I am in the right way, is probably enough
              for now.

              I haven't used Eclipse but I might give it a try.

              Thanks again and I might bother you again if I need some help.
              Hope you won't mind.

              Angelos.

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                • Aggelos
                  #5
                  Re: Version Control - What is the best way forward

                  On Jul 13, 6:27 pm, lawrence k <lkrub...@geoci ties.comwrote:
                  On Jul 13, 10:29 am, Aggelos <djje...@gmail. comwrote:
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  So I've tried to look into SVN which I was told that will do what I
                  like to do.
                  >
                  So if I have 10 websites with one Content Management System and one
                  development version that is tracked from SVN, I can then upload a
                  working version, in all my 10 sites.
                  >
                  The problem I am facing at the moment is I don't understand where the
                  SVN should be running.
                  >
                  I use a Dedicated Linux server which is fully managed and I can't
                  really play with it, otherwise I lose the support and ofcourse I don't
                  want that to happen.
                  And I am doing all the coding on a windows PC using dreamweaver for my
                  text editor.
                  >
                  Where would the SVN sit ? can someone tell me ? Is it worth to run a
                  virtual machine or a second home PC as a webserver and testing
                  environment ?
                  >
                  A bunch of places offer cheap Subversion accounts, for $10 or $15 a
                  month, and with plenty of space to host your project.
                  I'll have a look at it. I Just found a free one to play with for a
                  bit. (https://opensvn.csie.org/)

                  Thanks

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                    • Michael Fesser
                      #6
                      Re: Version Control - What is the best way forward

                      ..oO(Aggelos)
                      >Thanks very much for your reply.
                      >Just the fact that I know I am in the right way, is probably enough
                      >for now.
                      >
                      >I haven't used Eclipse but I might give it a try.
                      It needs some time to get used to it, but it has some nice features and
                      is very flexible. IMHO it's worth a look.
                      >Thanks again and I might bother you again if I need some help.
                      >Hope you won't mind.
                      No problem.

                      Micha

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