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  • Ben Sehara

    To allow access only from the designated site.

    Is there any way I can limit the access to my website? I have a site "A" and
    I want to allow access to it only from site "B" login user.

    If someone try to access site "A" directory, I want it redirected to site
    "B" for login. After login at site "B", you see the link to site"A". When
    you click it, you see login page for site "A".

    Is it possible?

    Thanks.
    Ben


  • lnsoso

    #2
    Re: To allow access only from the designated site.

    $_SERVER['HTTP_REFERER']


    On Jun 28, 3:02 pm, "Ben Sehara" <seh...@hotmail .comwrote:
    Is there any way I can limit the access to my website? I have a site "A" and
    I want to allow access to it only from site "B" login user.
    >
    If someone try to access site "A" directory, I want it redirected to site
    "B" for login. After login at site "B", you see the link to site"A". When
    you click it, you see login page for site "A".
    >
    Is it possible?
    >
    Thanks.
    Ben

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    • Michael Fesser

      #3
      Re: To allow access only from the designated site.

      ..oO(lnsoso)
      >$_SERVER['HTTP_REFERER']
      Not really.

      Micha

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      • Jerry Stuckle

        #4
        Re: To allow access only from the designated site.

        Ben Sehara wrote:
        Is there any way I can limit the access to my website? I have a site "A" and
        I want to allow access to it only from site "B" login user.
        >
        If someone try to access site "A" directory, I want it redirected to site
        "B" for login. After login at site "B", you see the link to site"A". When
        you click it, you see login page for site "A".
        >
        Is it possible?
        >
        Thanks.
        Ben
        >
        >
        Ben,

        Not easily. The problem here is if you set a cookie on Site B, it won't
        be sent to site A.

        If they are on the same server (or otherwise have access to the same
        database), you could enter a row in the database with a long, random key
        (i.e. a MD5 hash) and pass that value in the GET or POST request. If
        it's in the database, then allow them access. If not, redirect them
        back. Of course, you would have to clean up the info occasionally.

        There are other ways, but they would be along the same lines.

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        Jerry Stuckle
        JDS Computer Training Corp.
        jstucklex@attgl obal.net
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        • shimmyshack

          #5
          Re: To allow access only from the designated site.

          On Jun 28, 2:49 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
          Ben Sehara wrote:
          Is there any way I can limit the access to my website? I have a site "A" and
          I want to allow access to it only from site "B" login user.
          >
          If someone try to access site "A" directory, I want it redirected to site
          "B" for login. After login at site "B", you see the link to site"A". When
          you click it, you see login page for site "A".
          >
          Is it possible?
          >
          Thanks.
          Ben
          >
          Ben,
          >
          Not easily. The problem here is if you set a cookie on Site B, it won't
          be sent to site A.
          Was it you that asked this the other day, it is a solveable problem,
          what capabilities do both servers have, do they have php, does only
          one, which one, does one/both have a database, session support?

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          • Ben Sehara

            #6
            Re: To allow access only from the designated site.

            No, I don't think it's me. This is the first time to post regarding this
            topic.
            Site "A" has ASP and site"A", my site, has PHP. Both have database and
            session support.

            Can I use RSS to accomplish this? It just came up in my mind.

            Ben


            "shimmyshac k" <matt.farey@gma il.comwrote in message
            news:1183047662 .340289.205790@ m36g2000hse.goo glegroups.com.. .
            On Jun 28, 2:49 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
            >Ben Sehara wrote:
            Is there any way I can limit the access to my website? I have a site
            "A" and
            I want to allow access to it only from site "B" login user.
            >>
            If someone try to access site "A" directory, I want it redirected to
            site
            "B" for login. After login at site "B", you see the link to site"A".
            When
            you click it, you see login page for site "A".
            >>
            Is it possible?
            >>
            Thanks.
            Ben
            >>
            >Ben,
            >>
            >Not easily. The problem here is if you set a cookie on Site B, it won't
            >be sent to site A.
            >
            Was it you that asked this the other day, it is a solveable problem,
            what capabilities do both servers have, do they have php, does only
            one, which one, does one/both have a database, session support?
            >

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            • Jerry Stuckle

              #7
              Re: To allow access only from the designated site.

              Ben Sehara wrote:
              "shimmyshac k" <matt.farey@gma il.comwrote in message
              news:1183047662 .340289.205790@ m36g2000hse.goo glegroups.com.. .
              >On Jun 28, 2:49 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
              >>Ben Sehara wrote:
              >>>Is there any way I can limit the access to my website? I have a site
              >>>"A" and
              >>>I want to allow access to it only from site "B" login user.
              >>>If someone try to access site "A" directory, I want it redirected to
              >>>site
              >>>"B" for login. After login at site "B", you see the link to site"A".
              >>>When
              >>>you click it, you see login page for site "A".
              >>>Is it possible?
              >>>Thanks.
              >>>Ben
              >>Ben,
              >>>
              >>Not easily. The problem here is if you set a cookie on Site B, it won't
              >>be sent to site A.
              >Was it you that asked this the other day, it is a solveable problem,
              >what capabilities do both servers have, do they have php, does only
              >one, which one, does one/both have a database, session support?
              >>
              >
              >
              No, I don't think it's me. This is the first time to post regarding this
              topic.
              Site "A" has ASP and site"A", my site, has PHP. Both have database and
              session support.
              >
              Can I use RSS to accomplish this? It just came up in my mind.
              >
              Ben
              >
              >
              (Top posting fixed)

              Nope. RSS is generally not real-time. More often than not, RSS feeds
              run from a cron job every so often.

              Also, you can't share ASP sessions with PHP sessions. But if they can
              access the same database (not two different databases!) you can pass
              info through the database and either GET or POST values.

              --
              =============== ===
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              Jerry Stuckle
              JDS Computer Training Corp.
              jstucklex@attgl obal.net
              =============== ===

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              • Jerry Stuckle

                #8
                Re: To allow access only from the designated site.

                Ben Sehara wrote:
                "shimmyshac k" <matt.farey@gma il.comwrote in message
                news:1183047662 .340289.205790@ m36g2000hse.goo glegroups.com.. .
                >On Jun 28, 2:49 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
                >>Ben Sehara wrote:
                >>>Is there any way I can limit the access to my website? I have a site
                >>>"A" and
                >>>I want to allow access to it only from site "B" login user.
                >>>If someone try to access site "A" directory, I want it redirected to
                >>>site
                >>>"B" for login. After login at site "B", you see the link to site"A".
                >>>When
                >>>you click it, you see login page for site "A".
                >>>Is it possible?
                >>>Thanks.
                >>>Ben
                >>Ben,
                >>>
                >>Not easily. The problem here is if you set a cookie on Site B, it won't
                >>be sent to site A.
                >Was it you that asked this the other day, it is a solveable problem,
                >what capabilities do both servers have, do they have php, does only
                >one, which one, does one/both have a database, session support?
                >>
                >
                >
                No, I don't think it's me. This is the first time to post regarding this
                topic.
                Site "A" has ASP and site"A", my site, has PHP. Both have database and
                session support.
                >
                Can I use RSS to accomplish this? It just came up in my mind.
                >
                Ben
                >
                >
                P.S. Please don't top post.


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                Remove the "x" from my email address
                Jerry Stuckle
                JDS Computer Training Corp.
                jstucklex@attgl obal.net
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                • shimmyshack

                  #9
                  Re: To allow access only from the designated site.

                  On Jun 30, 2:49 am, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
                  Ben Sehara wrote:
                  "shimmyshac k" <matt.fa...@gma il.comwrote in message
                  news:1183047662 .340289.205790@ m36g2000hse.goo glegroups.com.. .
                  On Jun 28, 2:49 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
                  >Ben Sehara wrote:
                  >>Is there any way I can limit the access to my website? I have a site
                  >>"A" and
                  >>I want to allow access to it only from site "B" login user.
                  >>If someone try to access site "A" directory, I want it redirected to
                  >>site
                  >>"B" for login. After login at site "B", you see the link to site"A".
                  >>When
                  >>you click it, you see login page for site "A".
                  >>Is it possible?
                  >>Thanks.
                  >>Ben
                  >Ben,
                  >
                  >Not easily. The problem here is if you set a cookie on Site B, it won't
                  >be sent to site A.
                  Was it you that asked this the other day, it is a solveable problem,
                  what capabilities do both servers have, do they have php, does only
                  one, which one, does one/both have a database, session support?
                  >
                  No, I don't think it's me. This is the first time to post regarding this
                  topic.
                  Site "A" has ASP and site"A", my site, has PHP. Both have database and
                  session support.
                  >
                  Can I use RSS to accomplish this? It just came up in my mind.
                  >
                  Ben
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  P.S. Please don't top post.
                  >
                  --
                  =============== ===
                  Remove the "x" from my email address
                  Jerry Stuckle
                  JDS Computer Training Corp.
                  jstuck...@attgl obal.net
                  =============== ===

                  so let me get this straight,
                  if someone tried to access a directory of A (not the whole of site A,
                  just a page) and were not logged on at siteB, then they are redirected
                  there, then on successful login they are redirected back to site A, to
                  the page they were on, and now site A asks them to log on as well.
                  user goes to A, site A checks whether it lets the user through, if not
                  there it makes the ACTION of the form point to an iframe in the page
                  and to a script on siteB, and uses RSA for the form, with B's public
                  key in javascript, as well as a ID from siteA which is set in siteA's
                  cookie, user logs in, this form is encrypted and posted to siteB, site
                  B decrypts using it's private key, accepts if user gets it right and
                  makes a cURL session to a script on siteA, sending it the ID, which A
                  stores in database, id->"redirect=no " then it sends back javascript,
                  parent.location .reload(), to force the page on siteA to reload, now
                  site A checks whether user with this session needs to be refreshed,
                  and id is ok, sent from B, so A prints the login form for A with
                  ACTION pointing to a script on A, or just shows A's data.

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                  • shimmyshack

                    #10
                    Re: To allow access only from the designated site.

                    On Jun 30, 12:38 pm, shimmyshack <matt.fa...@gma il.comwrote:
                    On Jun 30, 2:49 am, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    Ben Sehara wrote:
                    "shimmyshac k" <matt.fa...@gma il.comwrote in message
                    >news:118304766 2.340289.205790 @m36g2000hse.go oglegroups.com. ..
                    >On Jun 28, 2:49 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
                    >>Ben Sehara wrote:
                    >>>Is there any way I can limit the access to my website? I have a site
                    >>>"A" and
                    >>>I want to allow access to it only from site "B" login user.
                    >>>If someone try to access site "A" directory, I want it redirected to
                    >>>site
                    >>>"B" for login. After login at site "B", you see the link to site"A".
                    >>>When
                    >>>you click it, you see login page for site "A".
                    >>>Is it possible?
                    >>>Thanks.
                    >>>Ben
                    >>Ben,
                    >
                    >>Not easily. The problem here is if you set a cookie on Site B, it won't
                    >>be sent to site A.
                    >Was it you that asked this the other day, it is a solveable problem,
                    >what capabilities do both servers have, do they have php, does only
                    >one, which one, does one/both have a database, session support?
                    >
                    No, I don't think it's me. This is the first time to post regarding this
                    topic.
                    Site "A" has ASP and site"A", my site, has PHP. Both have database and
                    session support.
                    >
                    Can I use RSS to accomplish this? It just came up in my mind.
                    >
                    Ben
                    >
                    P.S. Please don't top post.
                    >
                    --
                    =============== ===
                    Remove the "x" from my email address
                    Jerry Stuckle
                    JDS Computer Training Corp.
                    jstuck...@attgl obal.net
                    =============== ===
                    >
                    so let me get this straight,
                    if someone tried to access a directory of A (not the whole of site A,
                    just a page) and were not logged on at siteB, then they are redirected
                    there, then on successful login they are redirected back to site A, to
                    the page they were on, and now site A asks them to log on as well.
                    user goes to A, site A checks whether it lets the user through, if not
                    there it makes the ACTION of the form point to an iframe in the page
                    and to a script on siteB, and uses RSA for the form, with B's public
                    key in javascript, as well as a ID from siteA which is set in siteA's
                    cookie, user logs in, this form is encrypted and posted to siteB, site
                    B decrypts using it's private key, accepts if user gets it right and
                    makes a cURL session to a script on siteA, sending it the ID, which A
                    stores in database, id->"redirect=no " then it sends back javascript,
                    parent.location .reload(), to force the page on siteA to reload, now
                    site A checks whether user with this session needs to be refreshed,
                    and id is ok, sent from B, so A prints the login form for A with
                    ACTION pointing to a script on A, or just shows A's data.
                    you might find it worth readings this article about encryption of
                    submission (in a wordpress comment form ):


                    Comment

                    • Jerry Stuckle

                      #11
                      Re: To allow access only from the designated site.

                      shimmyshack wrote:
                      On Jun 30, 2:49 am, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
                      >Ben Sehara wrote:
                      >>"shimmyshac k" <matt.fa...@gma il.comwrote in message
                      >>news:11830476 62.340289.20579 0@m36g2000hse.g ooglegroups.com ...
                      >>>On Jun 28, 2:49 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
                      >>>>Ben Sehara wrote:
                      >>>>>Is there any way I can limit the access to my website? I have a site
                      >>>>>"A" and
                      >>>>>I want to allow access to it only from site "B" login user.
                      >>>>>If someone try to access site "A" directory, I want it redirected to
                      >>>>>site
                      >>>>>"B" for login. After login at site "B", you see the link to site"A".
                      >>>>>When
                      >>>>>you click it, you see login page for site "A".
                      >>>>>Is it possible?
                      >>>>>Thanks.
                      >>>>>Ben
                      >>>>Ben,
                      >>>>Not easily. The problem here is if you set a cookie on Site B, it won't
                      >>>>be sent to site A.
                      >>>Was it you that asked this the other day, it is a solveable problem,
                      >>>what capabilities do both servers have, do they have php, does only
                      >>>one, which one, does one/both have a database, session support?
                      > No, I don't think it's me. This is the first time to post regarding this
                      > topic.
                      > Site "A" has ASP and site"A", my site, has PHP. Both have database and
                      > session support.
                      > >
                      > Can I use RSS to accomplish this? It just came up in my mind.
                      > >
                      > Ben
                      > >
                      > >
                      >>
                      >P.S. Please don't top post.
                      >>
                      >--
                      >============== ====
                      >Remove the "x" from my email address
                      >Jerry Stuckle
                      >JDS Computer Training Corp.
                      >jstuck...@attg lobal.net
                      >============== ====
                      >
                      >
                      so let me get this straight,
                      if someone tried to access a directory of A (not the whole of site A,
                      just a page) and were not logged on at siteB, then they are redirected
                      there, then on successful login they are redirected back to site A, to
                      the page they were on, and now site A asks them to log on as well.
                      user goes to A, site A checks whether it lets the user through, if not
                      there it makes the ACTION of the form point to an iframe in the page
                      and to a script on siteB, and uses RSA for the form, with B's public
                      key in javascript, as well as a ID from siteA which is set in siteA's
                      cookie, user logs in, this form is encrypted and posted to siteB, site
                      B decrypts using it's private key, accepts if user gets it right and
                      makes a cURL session to a script on siteA, sending it the ID, which A
                      stores in database, id->"redirect=no " then it sends back javascript,
                      parent.location .reload(), to force the page on siteA to reload, now
                      site A checks whether user with this session needs to be refreshed,
                      and id is ok, sent from B, so A prints the login form for A with
                      ACTION pointing to a script on A, or just shows A's data.
                      >
                      Who said anything about all this crap?

                      From what I understand what the user wants, if someone is signed into
                      site A, they can access anything on Site B.

                      I suspect the entire idea is to not have to sign into both sites.

                      If they try to access a page at Site B but don't have the authority,
                      they are redirected to Site A for sign in. Once signing in, they can
                      access the page on Site B.

                      As for the rest - what a complicated way of handling things.
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                      JDS Computer Training Corp.
                      jstucklex@attgl obal.net
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                      • shimmyshack

                        #12
                        Re: To allow access only from the designated site.

                        On Jun 30, 2:23 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
                        shimmyshack wrote:
                        On Jun 30, 2:49 am, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
                        Ben Sehara wrote:
                        >"shimmyshack " <matt.fa...@gma il.comwrote in message
                        >>news:11830476 62.340289.20579 0@m36g2000hse.g ooglegroups.com ...
                        >>On Jun 28, 2:49 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
                        >>>Ben Sehara wrote:
                        >>>>Is there any way I can limit the access to my website? I have a site
                        >>>>"A" and
                        >>>>I want to allow access to it only from site "B" login user.
                        >>>>If someone try to access site "A" directory, I want it redirected to
                        >>>>site
                        >>>>"B" for login. After login at site "B", you see the link to site"A".
                        >>>>When
                        >>>>you click it, you see login page for site "A".
                        >>>>Is it possible?
                        >>>>Thanks.
                        >>>>Ben
                        >>>Ben,
                        >>>Not easily. The problem here is if you set a cookie on Site B, it won't
                        >>>be sent to site A.
                        >>Was it you that asked this the other day, it is a solveable problem,
                        >>what capabilities do both servers have, do they have php, does only
                        >>one, which one, does one/both have a database, session support?
                        No, I don't think it's me. This is the first time to post regarding this
                        topic.
                        Site "A" has ASP and site"A", my site, has PHP. Both have database and
                        session support.
                        >
                        Can I use RSS to accomplish this? It just came up in my mind.
                        >
                        Ben
                        >
                        P.S. Please don't top post.
                        >
                        --
                        =============== ===
                        Remove the "x" from my email address
                        Jerry Stuckle
                        JDS Computer Training Corp.
                        jstuck...@attgl obal.net
                        =============== ===
                        >
                        so let me get this straight,
                        if someone tried to access a directory of A (not the whole of site A,
                        just a page) and were not logged on at siteB, then they are redirected
                        there, then on successful login they are redirected back to site A, to
                        the page they were on, and now site A asks them to log on as well.
                        user goes to A, site A checks whether it lets the user through, if not
                        there it makes the ACTION of the form point to an iframe in the page
                        and to a script on siteB, and uses RSA for the form, with B's public
                        key in javascript, as well as a ID from siteA which is set in siteA's
                        cookie, user logs in, this form is encrypted and posted to siteB, site
                        B decrypts using it's private key, accepts if user gets it right and
                        makes a cURL session to a script on siteA, sending it the ID, which A
                        stores in database, id->"redirect=no " then it sends back javascript,
                        parent.location .reload(), to force the page on siteA to reload, now
                        site A checks whether user with this session needs to be refreshed,
                        and id is ok, sent from B, so A prints the login form for A with
                        ACTION pointing to a script on A, or just shows A's data.
                        >
                        Who said anything about all this crap?
                        >
                        From what I understand what the user wants, if someone is signed into
                        site A, they can access anything on Site B.
                        >
                        thats not what the OP said
                        I suspect the entire idea is to not have to sign into both sites.
                        clarification was needed (its why I asked)since thats not what the OP
                        said
                        >
                        If they try to access a page at Site B but don't have the authority,
                        they are redirected to Site A for sign in. Once signing in, they can
                        access the page on Site B.
                        If someone try to access site "A" directory, I want it redirected to
                        site
                        "B" for login. After login at site "B", you see the link to site"A".
                        When
                        you click it, you see login page for site "A".
                        it reminds me of stealing credentials - using xss, dont know whats on
                        the OPs mind really,
                        it can be done without encryption, sure - I was having fun, lets see
                        what the users problem actually is

                        >
                        As for the rest - what a complicated way of handling things.
                        --
                        hardly! just form, some js, and a couple of scripts! not quantum
                        physics this stuff!
                        overcomplicated sure, this isnt a hard problem, but whats wrong with
                        having a little fun, just a quick server-server connection, together
                        with sessions, but the method used above will work whatever the user
                        wants
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                        jstuck...@attgl obal.net
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                        Comment

                        • Jerry Stuckle

                          #13
                          Re: To allow access only from the designated site.

                          shimmyshack wrote:
                          On Jun 30, 2:23 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
                          >shimmyshack wrote:
                          >>On Jun 30, 2:49 am, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
                          >>>Ben Sehara wrote:
                          >>>>"shimmyshac k" <matt.fa...@gma il.comwrote in message
                          >>>>news:118304 7662.340289.205 790@m36g2000hse .googlegroups.c om...
                          >>>>>On Jun 28, 2:49 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
                          >>>>>>Ben Sehara wrote:
                          >>>>>>>Is there any way I can limit the access to my website? I have a site
                          >>>>>>>"A" and
                          >>>>>>>I want to allow access to it only from site "B" login user.
                          >>>>>>>If someone try to access site "A" directory, I want it redirected to
                          >>>>>>>site
                          >>>>>>>"B" for login. After login at site "B", you see the link to site"A".
                          >>>>>>>When
                          >>>>>>>you click it, you see login page for site "A".
                          >>>>>>>Is it possible?
                          >>>>>>>Thanks .
                          >>>>>>>Ben
                          >>>>>>Ben,
                          >>>>>>Not easily. The problem here is if you set a cookie on Site B, it won't
                          >>>>>>be sent to site A.
                          >>>>>Was it you that asked this the other day, it is a solveable problem,
                          >>>>>what capabilities do both servers have, do they have php, does only
                          >>>>>one, which one, does one/both have a database, session support?
                          >>> No, I don't think it's me. This is the first time to post regarding this
                          >>> topic.
                          >>> Site "A" has ASP and site"A", my site, has PHP. Both have database and
                          >>> session support.
                          >>> Can I use RSS to accomplish this? It just came up in my mind.
                          >>> Ben
                          >>>P.S. Please don't top post.
                          >>>--
                          >>>============ ======
                          >>>Remove the "x" from my email address
                          >>>Jerry Stuckle
                          >>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
                          >>>jstuck...@at tglobal.net
                          >>>============ ======
                          >>so let me get this straight,
                          >>if someone tried to access a directory of A (not the whole of site A,
                          >>just a page) and were not logged on at siteB, then they are redirected
                          >>there, then on successful login they are redirected back to site A, to
                          >>the page they were on, and now site A asks them to log on as well.
                          >>user goes to A, site A checks whether it lets the user through, if not
                          >>there it makes the ACTION of the form point to an iframe in the page
                          >>and to a script on siteB, and uses RSA for the form, with B's public
                          >>key in javascript, as well as a ID from siteA which is set in siteA's
                          >>cookie, user logs in, this form is encrypted and posted to siteB, site
                          >>B decrypts using it's private key, accepts if user gets it right and
                          >>makes a cURL session to a script on siteA, sending it the ID, which A
                          >>stores in database, id->"redirect=no " then it sends back javascript,
                          >>parent.locati on.reload(), to force the page on siteA to reload, now
                          >>site A checks whether user with this session needs to be refreshed,
                          >>and id is ok, sent from B, so A prints the login form for A with
                          >>ACTION pointing to a script on A, or just shows A's data.
                          >Who said anything about all this crap?
                          >>
                          > From what I understand what the user wants, if someone is signed into
                          >site A, they can access anything on Site B.
                          >>
                          >
                          thats not what the OP said
                          >
                          >I suspect the entire idea is to not have to sign into both sites.
                          clarification was needed (its why I asked)since thats not what the OP
                          said
                          >
                          >If they try to access a page at Site B but don't have the authority,
                          >they are redirected to Site A for sign in. Once signing in, they can
                          >access the page on Site B.
                          >
                          If someone try to access site "A" directory, I want it redirected to
                          site
                          "B" for login. After login at site "B", you see the link to site"A".
                          When
                          you click it, you see login page for site "A".
                          it reminds me of stealing credentials - using xss, dont know whats on
                          the OPs mind really,
                          it can be done without encryption, sure - I was having fun, lets see
                          what the users problem actually is
                          >
                          >
                          >As for the rest - what a complicated way of handling things.
                          >--
                          >
                          hardly! just form, some js, and a couple of scripts! not quantum
                          physics this stuff!
                          overcomplicated sure, this isnt a hard problem, but whats wrong with
                          having a little fun, just a quick server-server connection, together
                          with sessions, but the method used above will work whatever the user
                          wants
                          >
                          >============== ====
                          >Remove the "x" from my email address
                          >Jerry Stuckle
                          >JDS Computer Training Corp.
                          >jstuck...@attg lobal.net
                          >============== ====
                          >
                          >
                          And among other things, requires JS.

                          But yes, I consider it quite complicated - lots of things which can go
                          wrong!

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                          =============== ===
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                          jstucklex@attgl obal.net
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                          • shimmyshack

                            #14
                            Re: To allow access only from the designated site.

                            On Jun 30, 11:44 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
                            shimmyshack wrote:
                            On Jun 30, 2:23 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
                            shimmyshack wrote:
                            >On Jun 30, 2:49 am, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
                            >>Ben Sehara wrote:
                            >>>"shimmyshack " <matt.fa...@gma il.comwrote in message
                            >>>>news:118304 7662.340289.205 790@m36g2000hse .googlegroups.c om...
                            >>>>On Jun 28, 2:49 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
                            >>>>>Ben Sehara wrote:
                            >>>>>>Is there any way I can limit the access to my website? I have a site
                            >>>>>>"A" and
                            >>>>>>I want to allow access to it only from site "B" login user.
                            >>>>>>If someone try to access site "A" directory, I want it redirected to
                            >>>>>>site
                            >>>>>>"B" for login. After login at site "B", you see the link to site"A".
                            >>>>>>When
                            >>>>>>you click it, you see login page for site "A".
                            >>>>>>Is it possible?
                            >>>>>>Thanks.
                            >>>>>>Ben
                            >>>>>Ben,
                            >>>>>Not easily. The problem here is if you set a cookie on Site B, it won't
                            >>>>>be sent to site A.
                            >>>>Was it you that asked this the other day, it is a solveable problem,
                            >>>>what capabilities do both servers have, do they have php, does only
                            >>>>one, which one, does one/both have a database, session support?
                            >> No, I don't think it's me. This is the first time to post regarding this
                            >> topic.
                            >> Site "A" has ASP and site"A", my site, has PHP. Both have database and
                            >> session support.
                            >> Can I use RSS to accomplish this? It just came up in my mind.
                            >> Ben
                            >>P.S. Please don't top post.
                            >>--
                            >>============= =====
                            >>Remove the "x" from my email address
                            >>Jerry Stuckle
                            >>JDS Computer Training Corp.
                            >>jstuck...@att global.net
                            >>============= =====
                            >so let me get this straight,
                            >if someone tried to access a directory of A (not the whole of site A,
                            >just a page) and were not logged on at siteB, then they are redirected
                            >there, then on successful login they are redirected back to site A, to
                            >the page they were on, and now site A asks them to log on as well.
                            >user goes to A, site A checks whether it lets the user through, if not
                            >there it makes the ACTION of the form point to an iframe in the page
                            >and to a script on siteB, and uses RSA for the form, with B's public
                            >key in javascript, as well as a ID from siteA which is set in siteA's
                            >cookie, user logs in, this form is encrypted and posted to siteB, site
                            >B decrypts using it's private key, accepts if user gets it right and
                            >makes a cURL session to a script on siteA, sending it the ID, which A
                            >stores in database, id->"redirect=no " then it sends back javascript,
                            >parent.locatio n.reload(), to force the page on siteA to reload, now
                            >site A checks whether user with this session needs to be refreshed,
                            >and id is ok, sent from B, so A prints the login form for A with
                            >ACTION pointing to a script on A, or just shows A's data.
                            Who said anything about all this crap?
                            >
                            From what I understand what the user wants, if someone is signed into
                            site A, they can access anything on Site B.
                            >
                            thats not what the OP said
                            >
                            I suspect the entire idea is to not have to sign into both sites.
                            clarification was needed (its why I asked)since thats not what the OP
                            said
                            >
                            If they try to access a page at Site B but don't have the authority,
                            they are redirected to Site A for sign in. Once signing in, they can
                            access the page on Site B.
                            >
                            If someone try to access site "A" directory, I want it redirected to
                            site
                            "B" for login. After login at site "B", you see the link to site"A".
                            When
                            you click it, you see login page for site "A".
                            it reminds me of stealing credentials - using xss, dont know whats on
                            the OPs mind really,
                            it can be done without encryption, sure - I was having fun, lets see
                            what the users problem actually is
                            >
                            As for the rest - what a complicated way of handling things.
                            --
                            >
                            hardly! just form, some js, and a couple of scripts! not quantum
                            physics this stuff!
                            overcomplicated sure, this isnt a hard problem, but whats wrong with
                            having a little fun, just a quick server-server connection, together
                            with sessions, but the method used above will work whatever the user
                            wants
                            >
                            =============== ===
                            Remove the "x" from my email address
                            Jerry Stuckle
                            JDS Computer Training Corp.
                            jstuck...@attgl obal.net
                            =============== ===
                            >
                            And among other things, requires JS.
                            >
                            But yes, I consider it quite complicated - lots of things which can go
                            wrong!
                            >
                            --
                            =============== ===
                            Remove the "x" from my email address
                            Jerry Stuckle
                            JDS Computer Training Corp.
                            jstuck...@attgl obal.net
                            =============== ===
                            session stuff is standard and trusted, db the same, form posting the
                            same, as for requiring js, thats just to keep things secure, dont /
                            have/ to. The only extra step over and above any other method is the
                            rsa, standard implementation once again, reliable and fast, the
                            problems as usual would be on the wire, which we are all used coding
                            for.

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                            • Jerry Stuckle

                              #15
                              Re: To allow access only from the designated site.

                              shimmyshack wrote:
                              On Jun 30, 11:44 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
                              >shimmyshack wrote:
                              >>On Jun 30, 2:23 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
                              >>>shimmyshac k wrote:
                              >>>>On Jun 30, 2:49 am, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
                              >>>>>Ben Sehara wrote:
                              >>>>>>"shimmysh ack" <matt.fa...@gma il.comwrote in message
                              >>>>>>news:1183 047662.340289.2 05790@m36g2000h se.googlegroups .com...
                              >>>>>>>On Jun 28, 2:49 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attg lobal.netwrote:
                              >>>>>>>>Ben Sehara wrote:
                              >>>>>>>>>Is there any way I can limit the access to my website? I have a site
                              >>>>>>>>>"A" and
                              >>>>>>>>>I want to allow access to it only from site "B" login user.
                              >>>>>>>>>If someone try to access site "A" directory, I want it redirected to
                              >>>>>>>>>site
                              >>>>>>>>>"B" for login. After login at site "B", you see the link to site"A".
                              >>>>>>>>>When
                              >>>>>>>>>you click it, you see login page for site "A".
                              >>>>>>>>>Is it possible?
                              >>>>>>>>>Thanks .
                              >>>>>>>>>Ben
                              >>>>>>>>Ben,
                              >>>>>>>>Not easily. The problem here is if you set a cookie on Site B, it won't
                              >>>>>>>>be sent to site A.
                              >>>>>>>Was it you that asked this the other day, it is a solveable problem,
                              >>>>>>>what capabilities do both servers have, do they have php, does only
                              >>>>>>>one, which one, does one/both have a database, session support?
                              >>>>> No, I don't think it's me. This is the first time to post regarding this
                              >>>>> topic.
                              >>>>> Site "A" has ASP and site"A", my site, has PHP. Both have database and
                              >>>>> session support.
                              >>>>> Can I use RSS to accomplish this? It just came up in my mind.
                              >>>>> Ben
                              >>>>>P.S. Please don't top post.
                              >>>>>--
                              >>>>>========== ========
                              >>>>>Remove the "x" from my email address
                              >>>>>Jerry Stuckle
                              >>>>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
                              >>>>>jstuck...@ attglobal.net
                              >>>>>========== ========
                              >>>>so let me get this straight,
                              >>>>if someone tried to access a directory of A (not the whole of site A,
                              >>>>just a page) and were not logged on at siteB, then they are redirected
                              >>>>there, then on successful login they are redirected back to site A, to
                              >>>>the page they were on, and now site A asks them to log on as well.
                              >>>>user goes to A, site A checks whether it lets the user through, if not
                              >>>>there it makes the ACTION of the form point to an iframe in the page
                              >>>>and to a script on siteB, and uses RSA for the form, with B's public
                              >>>>key in javascript, as well as a ID from siteA which is set in siteA's
                              >>>>cookie, user logs in, this form is encrypted and posted to siteB, site
                              >>>>B decrypts using it's private key, accepts if user gets it right and
                              >>>>makes a cURL session to a script on siteA, sending it the ID, which A
                              >>>>stores in database, id->"redirect=no " then it sends back javascript,
                              >>>>parent.loca tion.reload(), to force the page on siteA to reload, now
                              >>>>site A checks whether user with this session needs to be refreshed,
                              >>>>and id is ok, sent from B, so A prints the login form for A with
                              >>>>ACTION pointing to a script on A, or just shows A's data.
                              >>>Who said anything about all this crap?
                              >>> From what I understand what the user wants, if someone is signed into
                              >>>site A, they can access anything on Site B.
                              >>thats not what the OP said
                              >>>I suspect the entire idea is to not have to sign into both sites.
                              >>clarificati on was needed (its why I asked)since thats not what the OP
                              >>said
                              >>>If they try to access a page at Site B but don't have the authority,
                              >>>they are redirected to Site A for sign in. Once signing in, they can
                              >>>access the page on Site B.
                              >>If someone try to access site "A" directory, I want it redirected to
                              >>site
                              >>"B" for login. After login at site "B", you see the link to site"A".
                              >>When
                              >>you click it, you see login page for site "A".
                              >>it reminds me of stealing credentials - using xss, dont know whats on
                              >>the OPs mind really,
                              >>it can be done without encryption, sure - I was having fun, lets see
                              >>what the users problem actually is
                              >>>As for the rest - what a complicated way of handling things.
                              >>>--
                              >>hardly! just form, some js, and a couple of scripts! not quantum
                              >>physics this stuff!
                              >>overcomplicat ed sure, this isnt a hard problem, but whats wrong with
                              >>having a little fun, just a quick server-server connection, together
                              >>with sessions, but the method used above will work whatever the user
                              >>wants
                              >>>============ ======
                              >>>Remove the "x" from my email address
                              >>>Jerry Stuckle
                              >>>JDS Computer Training Corp.
                              >>>jstuck...@at tglobal.net
                              >>>============ ======
                              >And among other things, requires JS.
                              >>
                              >But yes, I consider it quite complicated - lots of things which can go
                              >wrong!
                              >>
                              >--
                              >============== ====
                              >Remove the "x" from my email address
                              >Jerry Stuckle
                              >JDS Computer Training Corp.
                              >jstuck...@attg lobal.net
                              >============== ====
                              >
                              session stuff is standard and trusted, db the same, form posting the
                              same, as for requiring js, thats just to keep things secure, dont /
                              have/ to. The only extra step over and above any other method is the
                              rsa, standard implementation once again, reliable and fast, the
                              problems as usual would be on the wire, which we are all used coding
                              for.
                              >
                              Still needlessly complicated. Won't work for the estimated 10-15% that
                              have JS disabled, and all kinds of possibilities for other
                              communications between the two systems to fail.

                              A kludge just waiting to break. Much easier would be for the two to
                              have a shared database.

                              Alternatively, a one-time hash can be used - for instance, take a number
                              which increments every time, or the current date and a sequential
                              number. Embed the number in a predefined string and take the MD5 hash
                              of the resulting string. On the receiving end, validate the hash (same
                              algorithm) and start the session. Each has can only be used once.

                              Or any of a number of ways much simpler than yours.

                              --
                              =============== ===
                              Remove the "x" from my email address
                              Jerry Stuckle
                              JDS Computer Training Corp.
                              jstucklex@attgl obal.net
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