Breaking: FBI Ordered VA Tech Police To Stand Down (WHILE Cho was killing at VA Tech)

[Useful Info]

Like on 9/11, the Federal Government apparently WANTED people to die
at the hands of Cho at VA Tech, because they told campus police not to
pursue Cho after the double homicide occurred.

Story via

http://Muvy.org

[Freedom Fighter]

Re: Breaking: FBI Ordered VA Tech Police To Stand Down (WHILE Cho was killing at VA Tech)

"Useful Info" <useful_inf@yah oo.comwrote in message
news:1177182190 .588925.271630@ y5g2000hsa.goog legroups.com...

Like on 9/11, the Federal Government apparently WANTED people to die
at the hands of Cho at VA Tech, because they told campus police not to
pursue Cho after the double homicide occurred.
>
Story via
http://Muvy.org

The jury will be out for some time on this one, and I won't prejudge them,
but if true it does seem suspicious, as does the total failure of NORAD to
intercept even one of those allegedly hijacked planes on 9/11.

What lends some credibility to the possibility of a conspiracy here is the
fact that an unarmed populace cannot effectively resist or overthrow a
totalitarian government. Thus any government officials or agencies complicit
in 9/11, fascists that would slaughter thousands of American citizens to
further their evil aganda, would welcome any excuse to further disarm the
public. And they would unquestionably do so at the cost of only one
one-hundredth of the lives taken on 9/11.

Have you woken up yet, sheeple?

[hot-ham-and-cheese@hotmail.com]

Re: Breaking: FBI Ordered VA Tech Police To Stand Down (WHILE Cho was killing at VA Tech)

On Apr 21, 7:17 pm, "Freedom Fighter" <libe...@once.n etwrote:

"Useful Info" <useful_...@yah oo.comwrote in message
>
news:1177182190 .588925.271630@ y5g2000hsa.goog legroups.com...
>

Like on 9/11, the Federal Government apparently WANTED people to die
at the hands of Cho at VA Tech, because they told campus police not to
pursue Cho after the double homicide occurred.

>

Story via
http://Muvy.org

>
The jury will be out for some time on this one, and I won't prejudge them

I hope we don't get the OJ jury... I just don't trust them.

[Useful Info]

Re: Breaking: FBI Ordered VA Tech Police To Stand Down (WHILE Cho was killing at VA Tech)

On Apr 21, 9:31 pm, Pedro Sanchez <Dr.PedroSanc.. .@yahoo.comwrot e:

Even the OJ Jury would say you people are crazy as shit with all these
conspiracy theories.

A hypothesis about a crime supported by evidence must be pursued,
especially
if people came to serious harm, and especially if an obvious cover-up
is
happening.

See how the USA is becoming a police state:

http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/PoliceState.html

[BTR1701]

Re: Breaking: FBI Ordered VA Tech Police To Stand Down (WHILE Cho was killing at VA Tech)

In article <78pl23dss427el 7j9urria96l9vd3 v5eec@bbb.org>,
Pedro Sanchez <Dr.PedroSanche z@yahoo.comwrot e:

On 21 Apr 2007 16:54:48 -0700, hot-ham-and-cheese@hotmail. com wrote:
>

On Apr 21, 7:17 pm, "Freedom Fighter" <libe...@once.n etwrote:

"Useful Info" <useful_...@yah oo.comwrote in message
>
news:1177182190 .588925.271630@ y5g2000hsa.goog legroups.com...
>
Like on 9/11, the Federal Government apparently WANTED people to die
at the hands of Cho at VA Tech, because they told campus police not to
pursue Cho after the double homicide occurred.
>
Story via

http://Muvy.org

>
The jury will be out for some time on this one, and I won't prejudge them

I hope we don't get the OJ jury... I just don't trust them.

>
Even the OJ Jury would say you people are crazy as shit with all these
conspiracy theories.
>
Is NOTHING not part of a gov't cover-up?

Not to mention that the claim that the "FBI ordered the VA Tech police
to stand down" is bullshit on its face. Homicide is a violation of
*state* law, therefore state law enforcement officials have the superior
jurisdiction. The FBI couldn't order them to do jack squat. If anyone
was doing the ordering, it would have been local law enforcement.

People need to get beyond their Hollywood image of how law enforcement
works.

[Too_Many_Tools]

Re: Breaking: FBI Ordered VA Tech Police To Stand Down (WHILE Cho was killing at VA Tech)

On Apr 21, 2:03 pm, Useful Info <useful_...@yah oo.comwrote:

Like on 9/11, the Federal Government apparently WANTED people to die
at the hands of Cho at VA Tech, because they told campus police not to
pursue Cho after the double homicide occurred.
>
Story via
http://Muvy.org

Bullsh*t....whe n the shooter had control of the campus law enforcement
INCLUDING FBI were running around like a chicken with its head cut
off.

And note that all the cops went home safe that night without firing a
shot.

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that the FBI learned about the
shootings by watching television....j ust like the rest of us.

TMT

[BTR1701]

Re: Breaking: FBI Ordered VA Tech Police To Stand Down (WHILE Cho was killing at VA Tech)

In article <1177251268.567 797.64070@y80g2 000hsf.googlegr oups.com>,
Too_Many_Tools <too_many_tools @yahoo.comwrote :

On Apr 21, 2:03 pm, Useful Info <useful_...@yah oo.comwrote:

Like on 9/11, the Federal Government apparently WANTED people to die
at the hands of Cho at VA Tech, because they told campus police not to
pursue Cho after the double homicide occurred.

Story via
http://Muvy.org

>
Bullsh*t....whe n the shooter had control of the campus law enforcement
INCLUDING FBI were running around like a chicken with its head cut
off.

Nope. The Bureau didn't arrive until after the kid was dead.

[Too_Many_Tools]

Re: Breaking: FBI Ordered VA Tech Police To Stand Down (WHILE Cho was killing at VA Tech)

On Apr 22, 10:27 am, BTR1701 <btr1...@ix.net com.comwrote:

In article <1177251268.567 797.64...@y80g2 000hsf.googlegr oups.com>,
>
Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to... @yahoo.comwrote :

On Apr 21, 2:03 pm, Useful Info <useful_...@yah oo.comwrote:

Like on 9/11, the Federal Government apparently WANTED people to die
at the hands of Cho at VA Tech, because they told campus police not to
pursue Cho after the double homicide occurred.

>

Story via
http://Muvy.org

>

Bullsh*t....whe n the shooter had control of the campus law enforcement
INCLUDING FBI were running around like a chicken with its head cut
off.

>
Nope. The Bureau didn't arrive until after the kid was dead.

Wrong...I am talking about in their offices...that' s why they arrived
after the party was over.

TMT

[Jerry Stuckle]

Re: Breaking: FBI Ordered VA Tech Police To Stand Down (WHILE Chowas killing at VA Tech)

Too_Many_Tools wrote:

On Apr 22, 10:27 am, BTR1701 <btr1...@ix.net com.comwrote:

>In article <1177251268.567 797.64...@y80g2 000hsf.googlegr oups.com>,
>>
> Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to... @yahoo.comwrote :

>>On Apr 21, 2:03 pm, Useful Info <useful_...@yah oo.comwrote:
>>>Like on 9/11, the Federal Government apparently WANTED people to die
>>>at the hands of Cho at VA Tech, because they told campus police not to
>>>pursue Cho after the double homicide occurred.
>>>Story via
>>> http://Muvy.org
>>Bullsh*t....w hen the shooter had control of the campus law enforcement
>>INCLUDING FBI were running around like a chicken with its head cut
>>off.

>Nope. The Bureau didn't arrive until after the kid was dead.

>
Wrong...I am talking about in their offices...that' s why they arrived
after the party was over.
>
TMT
>

Sorry, unlike you, I AM near Blacksburg.

The FBI has NO JURISDICTION in this case. And they not only did
nothing, they COULD DO NOTHING until the Virginia law enforcement
authorities called them in.

And just for the heck of it - I checked out your stories. First of all,
there is no Matt Kazee in that area. Not in the VA Tech student
listing, not in the Blacksburg phone book or any other public reference
material there. Of course, this isn't perfect (he may have an unlisted
number), but certainly is suspicious.

I also contacted some EMT's, who put me in touch with the EMT's who were
on the scene. I talked to four of them. There was no stand-down order
at all. The only order was they were not allowed to go into an
unsecured area. That is Standard Operating Procedure in all calls. And
the Campus Police were trying to locate and subdue the shooter.

I won't go into any of the other details. Let's just say you're so full
of shit it's coming out your ears.

Keep trying to spread your lies and conspiracy theories. You're just
showing how stupid you really are.

--
=============== ===
Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
jstucklex@attgl obal.net
=============== ===

[hot-ham-and-cheese@hotmail.com]

Re: Breaking: FBI Ordered VA Tech Police To Stand Down (WHILE Cho was killing at VA Tech)

On Apr 22, 1:31 am, Pedro Sanchez <Dr.PedroSanc.. .@yahoo.comwrot e:

On 21 Apr 2007 16:54:48 -0700,hot-ham-and-che...@hotmail. com wrote:
>

On Apr 21, 7:17 pm, "Freedom Fighter" <libe...@once.n etwrote:

"Useful Info" <useful_...@yah oo.comwrote in message

>

>news:117718219 0.588925.271630 @y5g2000hsa.goo glegroups.com.. .

>

Like on 9/11, the Federal Government apparently WANTED people to die
at the hands of Cho at VA Tech, because they told campus police not to
pursue Cho after the double homicide occurred.

>

Story via
http://Muvy.org

>

The jury will be out for some time on this one, and I won't prejudge them

>

I hope we don't get the OJ jury... I just don't trust them.

>
Even the OJ Jury would say you people are crazy as shit with all these
conspiracy theories.
>
Is NOTHING not part of a gov't cover-up?

I don't believe in conspiracy theories.

[BTR1701]

Re: Breaking: FBI Ordered VA Tech Police To Stand Down (WHILE Cho was killing at VA Tech)

In article <1177266800.137 397.190380@d57g 2000hsg.googleg roups.com>,
Too_Many_Tools <too_many_tools @yahoo.comwrote :

On Apr 22, 10:27 am, BTR1701 <btr1...@ix.net com.comwrote:

In article <1177251268.567 797.64...@y80g2 000hsf.googlegr oups.com>,

Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to... @yahoo.comwrote :

On Apr 21, 2:03 pm, Useful Info <useful_...@yah oo.comwrote:
Like on 9/11, the Federal Government apparently WANTED people to die
at the hands of Cho at VA Tech, because they told campus police not to
pursue Cho after the double homicide occurred.

Story via
http://Muvy.org

Bullsh*t....whe n the shooter had control of the campus law enforcement
INCLUDING FBI were running around like a chicken with its head cut
off.

Nope. The Bureau didn't arrive until after the kid was dead.

>
Wrong...I am talking about in their offices.

How could you possibly know what was going on in the Roanoke FBI
resident office? Let me guess, you're one of those Usenet psychics that
knows everything about everything, including what everyone is thinking
at any given moment?

[Steve]

Re: Breaking: FBI Ordered VA Tech Police To Stand Down (WHILE Cho was killing at VA Tech)


"Useful Info" <useful_inf@yah oo.comwrote in message
news:1177182190 .588925.271630@ y5g2000hsa.goog legroups.com...
| Like on 9/11, the Federal Government apparently WANTED people to die
| at the hands of Cho at VA Tech, because they told campus police not to
| pursue Cho after the double homicide occurred.

hmmmm...so by having the local *campus* police (paid by the hour by the
univ. and not the city/state) not to pursue cho **AFTER** the homicides
(which was not DOUBLE [idiot]...more like an order of magnitude!!!), the FBI
'WANTED people to die'?

i don't get your argument. like, AT ALL. campus police are *rarely* city law
enforcement and, while being very professional, are NOT AT ALL qualified to
handle that sort of situation. they simply are not trained for it and
generally lack jurisdiction and authority to act in any other fashion than a
normal citizen.

while i've been totally remiss on becoming aquanted with the details of the
situation (which i will remedy), and haven't the slightest idea whether the
campus police were or were not actual police, i am not kookie enough to
believe the federal government wishes harm on the populous which it serves.

as far an your intro 'like on 9/11'...STFU, you illogical fuckwit! you must
prove a case or make such a claim known to all as at least generally true
before you can just babble shit from the bowels of your grey matter's dark
recesses. btw, to prove such a thing, you must provide evidence. you simply
do not have access to the information that leads to decisions made by those
put in charge of remedying the most dire of circumstances.

FOAD!!!

further, you cross-posting muther, wtf does this have to do with PHP?!!!

[What Me Worry?]

Re: Breaking: FBI Ordered VA Tech Police To Stand Down (WHILE Cho was killing at VA Tech)


"Freedom Fighter" <liberty@once.n etwrote in message
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"Useful Info" <useful_inf@yah oo.comwrote in message
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>Like on 9/11, the Federal Government apparently WANTED people to die
>at the hands of Cho at VA Tech, because they told campus police not to
>pursue Cho after the double homicide occurred.
>>
>Story via
>http://Muvy.org

>
The jury will be out for some time on this one, and I won't prejudge them,
but if true it does seem suspicious, as does the total failure of NORAD to
intercept even one of those allegedly hijacked planes on 9/11.
>
What lends some credibility to the possibility of a conspiracy here is the
fact that an unarmed populace cannot effectively resist or overthrow a
totalitarian government. Thus any government officials or agencies
complicit
in 9/11, fascists that would slaughter thousands of American citizens to
further their evil aganda, would welcome any excuse to further disarm the
public. And they would unquestionably do so at the cost of only one
one-hundredth of the lives taken on 9/11.
>
Have you woken up yet, sheeple?

I cannot disagree with you. This does seem consistent with the Neocon
agenda, and the larger global movement toward totalitarianism . Surveillance
and "total information awareness" is a camel's nose in the tent. Whitehouse
propaganda and packaged "news" is another. It's getting worse, folks.
Vigilance is required.

I will be very interested to hear more of the details concerning the VT
shooter. I give apologies/kudos to sandman, who called this one on the day
it happened, citing strangeness about the VT story. It is strange. I find
it hard to believe that 2 hours passed between the shootings without a
heightened alert putting cops in every building.

[What Me Worry?]

Re: Breaking: FBI Ordered VA Tech Police To Stand Down (WHILE Cho was killing at VA Tech)

"Pedro Sanchez" <Dr.PedroSanche z@yahoo.comwrot e in message
news:78pl23dss4 27el7j9urria96l 9vd3v5eec@bbb.o rg...

On 21 Apr 2007 16:54:48 -0700, hot-ham-and-cheese@hotmail. com wrote:
>

>>On Apr 21, 7:17 pm, "Freedom Fighter" <libe...@once.n etwrote:

>>"Useful Info" <useful_...@yah oo.comwrote in message
>>>
>>news:11771821 90.588925.27163 0@y5g2000hsa.go oglegroups.com. ..
>>>
>Like on 9/11, the Federal Government apparently WANTED people to die
>at the hands of Cho at VA Tech, because they told campus police not to
>pursue Cho after the double homicide occurred.
>>>
>Story via
>>http://Muvy.org
>>>
>>The jury will be out for some time on this one, and I won't prejudge
>>them

>>
>>I hope we don't get the OJ jury... I just don't trust them.

>
Even the OJ Jury would say you people are crazy as shit with all these
conspiracy theories.
>
Is NOTHING not part of a gov't cover-up?

9/11 changed everything, and not perhaps in the way that many think. It
means that we have to watch our government officials like a hawk, all the
time. There hasn't been a more deceitful, power-abusing, neo-fascist
administration in the US in its entire history. Maybe the VT massacre is
exactly what you think it is. Maybe not. That doesn't make the people who
question it "crazy."

But your response does resemble that of a disinfo shill; because I don't
think you're at all stupid.

[Gunner]

Re: Breaking: FBI Ordered VA Tech Police To Stand Down (WHILE Cho was killing at VA Tech)

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 05:00:09 -0500, "What Me Worry?" <__@____.___>
wrote:

>
>9/11 changed everything, and not perhaps in the way that many think. It
>means that we have to watch our government officials like a hawk, all the
>time. There hasn't been a more deceitful, power-abusing, neo-fascist
>administrati on in the US in its entire history.

Evidently you have never heard of the British Empire, the USSR or Nazi
Germany. Or Red China for that matter.

Remedial history classes are indicated in your case.

Gunner

"I don't want to abolish government.
I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can
drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.
-- Grover Norquist