Is Java Obsolete?

[cnixuser]

I am beginning to hear more and more that RAD technologies such as ASP.NET and LAMP are very quickly taking the place of java in the business world. Is this true, if it is how wide spread is it, are there some things that things the RAD technologies I mentioned won't ever be able to do as well as a system like java or the other more traditional application programming languages such as C/C++?

[r035198x]

I am beginning to hear more and more that RAD technologies such as ASP.NET and LAMP are very quickly taking the place of java in the business world. Is this true, if it is how wide spread is it, are there some things that things the RAD technologies I mentioned won't ever be able to do as well as a system like java or the other more traditional application programming languages such as C/C++?

Don't believe everything you hear. If you go to the sun site you will be told that ASP.NET is obsolete and is now being replaced by Java. People are just trying to sell their products. Java is certainly not becoming obsolete. There are many improvements that take place in Java every six months or so. There is nothing that an ASP technology can do that cannot be done by a Java based technology.

[hirak1984]

well to make the discussion more spicy I request you to post the same question in asp forum.
as for java forum,people here swear by java,so never ever dare to say that java is becoming obsolete.

I am beginning to hear more and more that RAD technologies such as ASP.NET and LAMP are very quickly taking the place of java in the business world. Is this true, if it is how wide spread is it, are there some things that things the RAD technologies I mentioned won't ever be able to do as well as a system like java or the other more traditional application programming languages such as C/C++?

[horace1]

Don't believe everything you hear. If you go to the sun site you will be told that ASP.NET is obsolete and is now being replaced by Java. People are just trying to sell their products. Java is certainly not becoming obsolete. There are many improvements that take place in Java every six months or so. There is nothing that an ASP technology can do that cannot be done by a Java based technology.

and Java is portable across systems (Windows, Linux, OSx, etc) which cannot be said for ASP.NET (although Mono is going some way to fix this).

[cnixuser]

Are there things that java can do, aside from being more cross platform that ASP.NET can not, or at least can not do well? Also, I have heard that uses of Apache MySQL PHP (AMP) are a big competitor for java, is this true?

[horace1]

Are there things that java can do, aside from being more cross platform that ASP.NET can not, or at least can not do well? Also, I have heard that uses of Apache MySQL PHP (AMP) are a big competitor for java, is this true?

There a alternatives with various advantages and disadvantages. Given a specification for a new application (e.g. in a student project) one of the first tasks is to review technologies for its implementation evaluating advantages/disadvantages in terms of functionality, availability, portability, easy of use, cost, existing knowledge, etc. For example, for a web based database system one could look at Access, MySql, Oracle, etc for the database and Java, PHP, C++, Javascript, Python, etc, for the frontend. One then selects the most appropriate tools at each level taking into account practical constraints such as one may have a particular technology readily available. Such a review would form a part of the project report together with analysis and design, implementation, testing, critical evaluation, etc.
I make students who are good at programming implement several prototypes using different technologies and evaluate them.

[r035198x]

I'll now copy this to ASP and PHP forums where you can expect to get some interesting reactions.