Linux and PHP

**Edwin van der Vaart** · Jul 17 '05, 05:03 AM

Re: Linux and PHP

Nick Mudge wrote:
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> I currently have Windows XP, but I am thinking of changing my operating
> system to linux because all i want to do is web development with PHP, MySQL
> and Apache. Does anybody recommend the best linux version for web
> developement?[/color]

Some prefer Mandrake 10, some prefer Red Hat 9 and others prefer Fedora.
Personally I use Mandrake 9.2
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> I know that there is the partishioning option of having both Linux and
> Windows on my computer, but I heard that, that is not the best way to go.
> Comments anybody?[/color]

I have no problems with the partishioning, because I have the os's on
separated HD's.
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**Fred Emmott** · Jul 17 '05, 05:03 AM

Re: Linux and PHP

Nick Mudge wrote:
[color=blue]
> I currently have Windows XP, but I am thinking of changing my operating
> system to linux because all i want to do is web development with PHP,
> MySQL
> and Apache. Does anybody recommend the best linux version for web
> developement?
>
> Also, what is the best way to transfere the files that I want to keep from
> windows XP onto Linux?
>
> I know that there is the partishioning option of having both Linux and
> Windows on my computer, but I heard that, that is not the best way to go.
> Comments anybody?
>
> Nick[/color]

Any distro apart from suse personal and lindows.

My recommendations :

1) SuSE Professional
2) Slackware
3) Debian

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**Fred Emmott** · Jul 17 '05, 05:03 AM

Re: Linux and PHP

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Nick Mudge wrote:
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> I currently have Windows XP, but I am thinking of changing my operating
> system to linux because all i want to do is web development with PHP,
> MySQL
> and Apache. Does anybody recommend the best linux version for web
> developement?
>
> Also, what is the best way to transfere the files that I want to keep from
> windows XP onto Linux?
>
> I know that there is the partishioning option of having both Linux and
> Windows on my computer, but I heard that, that is not the best way to go.
> Comments anybody?
>
> Nick[/color]

Any distro apart from SuSE Personal and Lindows.

My recommendations :

1) SuSE Professional
2) Slackware
3) Debian
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**Agelmar** · Jul 17 '05, 05:03 AM

Re: Linux and PHP

Fred Emmott wrote:[color=blue]
> Nick Mudge wrote:
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>> I currently have Windows XP, but I am thinking of changing my
>> operating system to linux because all i want to do is web
>> development with PHP, MySQL
>> and Apache. Does anybody recommend the best linux version for web
>> developement?
>>
>> Also, what is the best way to transfere the files that I want to
>> keep from windows XP onto Linux?
>>
>> I know that there is the partishioning option of having both Linux
>> and Windows on my computer, but I heard that, that is not the best
>> way to go. Comments anybody?
>>
>> Nick[/color]
>
> Any distro apart from suse personal and lindows.
>
> My recommendations :
>
> 1) SuSE Professional
> 2) Slackware
> 3) Debian[/color]

You're forgetting Gentoo ^-^ (Although it's definitely not for n00bs.. but
then again, neither is Slack.)

**Fred Emmott** · Jul 17 '05, 05:03 AM

Re: Linux and PHP

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Agelmar wrote:
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> Fred Emmott wrote:[color=green]
>> Nick Mudge wrote:
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>>> I currently have Windows XP, but I am thinking of changing my
>>> operating system to linux because all i want to do is web
>>> development with PHP, MySQL
>>> and Apache. Does anybody recommend the best linux version for web
>>> developement?
>>>
>>> Also, what is the best way to transfere the files that I want to
>>> keep from windows XP onto Linux?
>>>
>>> I know that there is the partishioning option of having both Linux
>>> and Windows on my computer, but I heard that, that is not the best
>>> way to go. Comments anybody?
>>>
>>> Nick[/color]
>>
>> Any distro apart from suse personal and lindows.
>>
>> My recommendations :
>>
>> 1) SuSE Professional
>> 2) Slackware
>> 3) Debian[/color]
>
> You're forgetting Gentoo ^-^ (Although it's definitely not for n00bs.. but
> then again, neither is Slack.)[/color]

i just can never be bothered with the install time (and I see no point in
installing from base tarballs).
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**Agelmar** · Jul 17 '05, 05:04 AM

Re: Linux and PHP

Fred Emmott wrote:
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>> You're forgetting Gentoo ^-^ (Although it's definitely not for
>> n00bs.. but then again, neither is Slack.)[/color]
>
> i just can never be bothered with the install time (and I see no
> point in installing from base tarballs).[/color]

There are quite a few reasons to go with a source-based distro (i.e. gentoo)
as opposed to a package-based distro (redhat, fedora, mandrake etc). With
something like Gentoo, everything is compiled to your specific optimization
settings... e.g. everything on my laptop is compiled
with -march=pentium4, -funroll-loops -O3 -mfpmath etc... all this makes for
a much faster system as opposed to something running code not optimized for
any particular architecture (e.g. generic x86 compilation).

**sda** · Jul 17 '05, 05:04 AM

Re: Linux and PHP

Agelmar wrote:
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> Fred Emmott wrote:
> <snip>
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>>>You're forgetting Gentoo ^-^ (Although it's definitely not for
>>>n00bs.. but then again, neither is Slack.)[/color]
>>
>>i just can never be bothered with the install time (and I see no
>>point in installing from base tarballs).[/color]
>
>
> There are quite a few reasons to go with a source-based distro (i.e. gentoo)
> as opposed to a package-based distro (redhat, fedora, mandrake etc). With
> something like Gentoo, everything is compiled to your specific optimization
> settings... e.g. everything on my laptop is compiled
> with -march=pentium4, -funroll-loops -O3 -mfpmath etc... all this makes for
> a much faster system as opposed to something running code not optimized for
> any particular architecture (e.g. generic x86 compilation).[/color]

Any benchmarks I've seen, or seen reported, show no increase with the
optimizations. In short, the effort isn't worth the return, unless one is doing
it for a "learning" experience. I've even heard some kernel experts saying the
optimizations often slow a system down.

**Tim Van Wassenhove** · Jul 17 '05, 05:04 AM

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**Tony Marston** · Jul 17 '05, 05:04 AM

Re: Linux and PHP

It is perfectly feasible to develop using Windows XP but to deploy using
Linux/Unix. That is exactly what I do.

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"Nick Mudge" <mark1822@hotma il.com> wrote in message
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> I currently have Windows XP, but I am thinking of changing my operating
> system to linux because all i want to do is web development with PHP,[/color]
MySQL[color=blue]
> and Apache. Does anybody recommend the best linux version for web
> developement?
>
> Also, what is the best way to transfere the files that I want to keep from
> windows XP onto Linux?
>
> I know that there is the partishioning option of having both Linux and
> Windows on my computer, but I heard that, that is not the best way to go.
> Comments anybody?
>
> Nick
>
>[/color]

**Jeffrey Silverman** · Jul 17 '05, 05:05 AM

Re: Linux and PHP

On Sat, 01 May 2004 20:02:57 +0000, Nick Mudge wrote:
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> I currently have Windows XP, but I am thinking of changing my operating
> system to linux because all i want to do is web development with PHP,
> MySQL and Apache. Does anybody recommend the best linux version for web
> developement?
>
> Also, what is the best way to transfere the files that I want to keep from
> windows XP onto Linux?
>
> I know that there is the partishioning option of having both Linux and
> Windows on my computer, but I heard that, that is not the best way to go.
> Comments anybody?
>
> Nick[/color]

While I think that Linux is superior to Windows, I don't see any real
reason to change from Windows just for PHP development purposes. You can
feasibly do all of your PHP development on WinXP just fine.

However, there are many compelling reasons to switch to Linux beyond just
PHP development, including (but not limited to):

* relative safety from viruses.
* vastly more configurable environment.
* free software.
* freedom software.
* Tons and tons of free software. Included on the typical Linux distro CD.
* Expert-friendly environment
* greater default security (keyword is "default" -- Win2k/XP can be
reasonably secure; just not on a default install!)

With that in mind, asking "which Linux for me" is a bit like asking "will
I like chocolate better than vanilla". There are many Linux distros. Some
would say too many.

My recommendations are:

* Red Hat/Fedora Core 1
* SuSE
* Mandrake
* Gentoo

Not necessarily in that order. (Except I personally do put Fedora Core
first.)

Good luck, and by all means, make the switch.

later...

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