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  • Nick Mudge

    Linux and PHP

    I currently have Windows XP, but I am thinking of changing my operating
    system to linux because all i want to do is web development with PHP, MySQL
    and Apache. Does anybody recommend the best linux version for web
    developement?

    Also, what is the best way to transfere the files that I want to keep from
    windows XP onto Linux?

    I know that there is the partishioning option of having both Linux and
    Windows on my computer, but I heard that, that is not the best way to go.
    Comments anybody?

    Nick


  • Edwin van der Vaart

    #2
    Re: Linux and PHP

    Nick Mudge wrote:
    [color=blue]
    > I currently have Windows XP, but I am thinking of changing my operating
    > system to linux because all i want to do is web development with PHP, MySQL
    > and Apache. Does anybody recommend the best linux version for web
    > developement?[/color]

    Some prefer Mandrake 10, some prefer Red Hat 9 and others prefer Fedora.
    Personally I use Mandrake 9.2
    [color=blue]
    > I know that there is the partishioning option of having both Linux and
    > Windows on my computer, but I heard that, that is not the best way to go.
    > Comments anybody?[/color]

    I have no problems with the partishioning, because I have the os's on
    separated HD's.
    --
    Edwin van der Vaart
    http://www.semi-conductor.nl/ Links to Semiconductors sites
    http://www.evandervaart.nl/ Under construction

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    • Fred Emmott

      #3
      Re: Linux and PHP

      Nick Mudge wrote:
      [color=blue]
      > I currently have Windows XP, but I am thinking of changing my operating
      > system to linux because all i want to do is web development with PHP,
      > MySQL
      > and Apache. Does anybody recommend the best linux version for web
      > developement?
      >
      > Also, what is the best way to transfere the files that I want to keep from
      > windows XP onto Linux?
      >
      > I know that there is the partishioning option of having both Linux and
      > Windows on my computer, but I heard that, that is not the best way to go.
      > Comments anybody?
      >
      > Nick[/color]

      Any distro apart from suse personal and lindows.

      My recommendations :

      1) SuSE Professional
      2) Slackware
      3) Debian

      --

      Fred

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      • Fred Emmott

        #4
        Re: Linux and PHP

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        Nick Mudge wrote:
        [color=blue]
        > I currently have Windows XP, but I am thinking of changing my operating
        > system to linux because all i want to do is web development with PHP,
        > MySQL
        > and Apache. Does anybody recommend the best linux version for web
        > developement?
        >
        > Also, what is the best way to transfere the files that I want to keep from
        > windows XP onto Linux?
        >
        > I know that there is the partishioning option of having both Linux and
        > Windows on my computer, but I heard that, that is not the best way to go.
        > Comments anybody?
        >
        > Nick[/color]

        Any distro apart from SuSE Personal and Lindows.

        My recommendations :

        1) SuSE Professional
        2) Slackware
        3) Debian
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        • Agelmar

          #5
          Re: Linux and PHP

          Fred Emmott wrote:[color=blue]
          > Nick Mudge wrote:
          >[color=green]
          >> I currently have Windows XP, but I am thinking of changing my
          >> operating system to linux because all i want to do is web
          >> development with PHP, MySQL
          >> and Apache. Does anybody recommend the best linux version for web
          >> developement?
          >>
          >> Also, what is the best way to transfere the files that I want to
          >> keep from windows XP onto Linux?
          >>
          >> I know that there is the partishioning option of having both Linux
          >> and Windows on my computer, but I heard that, that is not the best
          >> way to go. Comments anybody?
          >>
          >> Nick[/color]
          >
          > Any distro apart from suse personal and lindows.
          >
          > My recommendations :
          >
          > 1) SuSE Professional
          > 2) Slackware
          > 3) Debian[/color]

          You're forgetting Gentoo ^-^ (Although it's definitely not for n00bs.. but
          then again, neither is Slack.)


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          • Fred Emmott

            #6
            Re: Linux and PHP

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            Agelmar wrote:
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            > Fred Emmott wrote:[color=green]
            >> Nick Mudge wrote:
            >>[color=darkred]
            >>> I currently have Windows XP, but I am thinking of changing my
            >>> operating system to linux because all i want to do is web
            >>> development with PHP, MySQL
            >>> and Apache. Does anybody recommend the best linux version for web
            >>> developement?
            >>>
            >>> Also, what is the best way to transfere the files that I want to
            >>> keep from windows XP onto Linux?
            >>>
            >>> I know that there is the partishioning option of having both Linux
            >>> and Windows on my computer, but I heard that, that is not the best
            >>> way to go. Comments anybody?
            >>>
            >>> Nick[/color]
            >>
            >> Any distro apart from suse personal and lindows.
            >>
            >> My recommendations :
            >>
            >> 1) SuSE Professional
            >> 2) Slackware
            >> 3) Debian[/color]
            >
            > You're forgetting Gentoo ^-^ (Although it's definitely not for n00bs.. but
            > then again, neither is Slack.)[/color]

            i just can never be bothered with the install time (and I see no point in
            installing from base tarballs).
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            • Agelmar

              #7
              Re: Linux and PHP

              Fred Emmott wrote:
              <snip>[color=blue][color=green]
              >> You're forgetting Gentoo ^-^ (Although it's definitely not for
              >> n00bs.. but then again, neither is Slack.)[/color]
              >
              > i just can never be bothered with the install time (and I see no
              > point in installing from base tarballs).[/color]

              There are quite a few reasons to go with a source-based distro (i.e. gentoo)
              as opposed to a package-based distro (redhat, fedora, mandrake etc). With
              something like Gentoo, everything is compiled to your specific optimization
              settings... e.g. everything on my laptop is compiled
              with -march=pentium4, -funroll-loops -O3 -mfpmath etc... all this makes for
              a much faster system as opposed to something running code not optimized for
              any particular architecture (e.g. generic x86 compilation).


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              • sda

                #8
                Re: Linux and PHP

                Agelmar wrote:
                [color=blue]
                > Fred Emmott wrote:
                > <snip>
                >[color=green][color=darkred]
                >>>You're forgetting Gentoo ^-^ (Although it's definitely not for
                >>>n00bs.. but then again, neither is Slack.)[/color]
                >>
                >>i just can never be bothered with the install time (and I see no
                >>point in installing from base tarballs).[/color]
                >
                >
                > There are quite a few reasons to go with a source-based distro (i.e. gentoo)
                > as opposed to a package-based distro (redhat, fedora, mandrake etc). With
                > something like Gentoo, everything is compiled to your specific optimization
                > settings... e.g. everything on my laptop is compiled
                > with -march=pentium4, -funroll-loops -O3 -mfpmath etc... all this makes for
                > a much faster system as opposed to something running code not optimized for
                > any particular architecture (e.g. generic x86 compilation).[/color]

                Any benchmarks I've seen, or seen reported, show no increase with the
                optimizations. In short, the effort isn't worth the return, unless one is doing
                it for a "learning" experience. I've even heard some kernel experts saying the
                optimizations often slow a system down.

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                • Tim Van Wassenhove

                  #9
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                  • Tony Marston

                    #10
                    Re: Linux and PHP

                    It is perfectly feasible to develop using Windows XP but to deploy using
                    Linux/Unix. That is exactly what I do.

                    --
                    Tony Marston

                    This is Tony Marston's web site, containing personal information plus pages devoted to the Uniface 4GL development language, XML and XSL, PHP and MySQL, and a bit of COBOL



                    "Nick Mudge" <mark1822@hotma il.com> wrote in message
                    news:RnTkc.6954 $TD4.719001@att bi_s01...[color=blue]
                    > I currently have Windows XP, but I am thinking of changing my operating
                    > system to linux because all i want to do is web development with PHP,[/color]
                    MySQL[color=blue]
                    > and Apache. Does anybody recommend the best linux version for web
                    > developement?
                    >
                    > Also, what is the best way to transfere the files that I want to keep from
                    > windows XP onto Linux?
                    >
                    > I know that there is the partishioning option of having both Linux and
                    > Windows on my computer, but I heard that, that is not the best way to go.
                    > Comments anybody?
                    >
                    > Nick
                    >
                    >[/color]


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                    • Jeffrey Silverman

                      #11
                      Re: Linux and PHP

                      On Sat, 01 May 2004 20:02:57 +0000, Nick Mudge wrote:
                      [color=blue]
                      > I currently have Windows XP, but I am thinking of changing my operating
                      > system to linux because all i want to do is web development with PHP,
                      > MySQL and Apache. Does anybody recommend the best linux version for web
                      > developement?
                      >
                      > Also, what is the best way to transfere the files that I want to keep from
                      > windows XP onto Linux?
                      >
                      > I know that there is the partishioning option of having both Linux and
                      > Windows on my computer, but I heard that, that is not the best way to go.
                      > Comments anybody?
                      >
                      > Nick[/color]

                      While I think that Linux is superior to Windows, I don't see any real
                      reason to change from Windows just for PHP development purposes. You can
                      feasibly do all of your PHP development on WinXP just fine.

                      However, there are many compelling reasons to switch to Linux beyond just
                      PHP development, including (but not limited to):

                      * relative safety from viruses.
                      * vastly more configurable environment.
                      * free software.
                      * freedom software.
                      * Tons and tons of free software. Included on the typical Linux distro CD.
                      * Expert-friendly environment
                      * greater default security (keyword is "default" -- Win2k/XP can be
                      reasonably secure; just not on a default install!)

                      With that in mind, asking "which Linux for me" is a bit like asking "will
                      I like chocolate better than vanilla". There are many Linux distros. Some
                      would say too many.

                      My recommendations are:

                      * Red Hat/Fedora Core 1
                      * SuSE
                      * Mandrake
                      * Gentoo

                      Not necessarily in that order. (Except I personally do put Fedora Core
                      first.)

                      Good luck, and by all means, make the switch.

                      later...

                      --
                      Jeffrey D. Silverman | jeffrey AT jhu DOT edu
                      Website | http://www.wse.jhu.edu/newtnotes/

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