Which Template Engine?

[Don Sutter]

Hello,

I'm looking for "Template" recomendations for PHP 4, like which one is
popular or has the best/most features.

I'm somewhat of a newbie with PHP and bacame interested in templates via
Wrox's Professional PHP. They were using FastTemplate. The FastTemplate
website gave me the impression it was designed around php3 and maybe hasn't
been updated in a while.

I also ran across patTemplate and Smarty.

Opinions?

Thanks in advance

Don

[Jan Pieter Kunst]

Re: Which Template Engine?

In article <A0%ec.9098$A_4 .4100@newsread1 .news.pas.earth link.net>,
"Don Sutter" <no@way.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> I'm looking for "Template" recomendations for PHP 4, like which one is
> popular or has the best/most features.
>
> I'm somewhat of a newbie with PHP and bacame interested in templates via
> Wrox's Professional PHP. They were using FastTemplate. The FastTemplate
> website gave me the impression it was designed around php3 and maybe hasn't
> been updated in a while.
>
> I also ran across patTemplate and Smarty.
>
> Opinions?[/color]

My opinion is that Smarty rules ... some people think there is too much
'programming'/logic going on in Smarty templates, but I think that as
long as it's logic that is solely concerned with presentation it can be
argued that it belongs in the template.

Some people also dislike the different Smarty syntax, for example:

{foreach from=$array key=key item=value}

instead of

foreach ($array as $key => $value)

But I find that it in fact helps me to keep business logic and template
logic separate.

JP

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[Bruno Desthuilliers]

Re: Which Template Engine?

Don Sutter wrote:[color=blue]
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for "Template" recomendations for PHP 4, like which one is
> popular or has the best/most features.
>
> I'm somewhat of a newbie with PHP and bacame interested in templates via
> Wrox's Professional PHP. They were using FastTemplate. The FastTemplate
> website gave me the impression it was designed around php3 and maybe hasn't
> been updated in a while.
>
> I also ran across patTemplate and Smarty.
>
> Opinions?[/color]

What about PHP ?-)

Else, the PEAR library has several templating systems. You may also want
to have a look at PHPTal, the PHP implementation of Zope's templates.

HTH
Bruno

[Tony Marston]

Re: Which Template Engine?

If you want to use a templating system that is (a) not tied to PHP and (b)
governed by W3C standards then I suggest you take a look at XSL. In this
method all my PHP scripts do is output the data to an XML file then perform
an XSL Transformation using a predefined XSL stylesheet. I have made my
stylesheets reusable so that I can produce 300+ pages from just 8 XSL files.

For more details take a look at
http://www.tonymarston.co.uk/xml-xsl/index.html.

I also have a sample application which you can run online which is
documented at http://www.tonymarston.net/php-mysql...plication.html

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"Don Sutter" <no@way.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for "Template" recomendations for PHP 4, like which one is
> popular or has the best/most features.
>
> I'm somewhat of a newbie with PHP and bacame interested in templates via
> Wrox's Professional PHP. They were using FastTemplate. The FastTemplate
> website gave me the impression it was designed around php3 and maybe[/color]
hasn't[color=blue]
> been updated in a while.
>
> I also ran across patTemplate and Smarty.
>
> Opinions?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Don
>
>[/color]

[R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah]

Re: Which Template Engine?

"Don Sutter" <no@way.com> wrote in message news:<A0%ec.909 8$A_4.4100@news read1.news.pas. earthlink.net>. ..[color=blue]
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for "Template" recomendations for PHP 4, like which one is
> popular or has the best/most features.
>
> I'm somewhat of a newbie with PHP and bacame interested in templates via
> Wrox's Professional PHP. They were using FastTemplate. The FastTemplate
> website gave me the impression it was designed around php3 and maybe hasn't
> been updated in a while.
>
> I also ran across patTemplate and Smarty.
>
> Opinions?[/color]

Please look at the archives. The answer is totally disputed. For
example, see one of the previous discussions
<http://groups.google.c om/groups?threadm= c17ndg%24l3t%24 1%40newsreader. mailgate.org>

Also see:
1. http://www.phpbuilder.com/annotate/m...hp3?id=1013434
2. http://www.phpbuilder.com/annotate/m...hp3?id=1013711
3. http://www.phpbuilder.com/annotate/m...hp3?id=1013461
4. http://www.phppatterns.com/index.php...cleview/4/1/1/
5. http://www.massassi.com/php/articles/template_engines/
6. http://www.cs.usfca.edu/~parrt/papers/mvc.templates.pdf

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[Hayden Kirk]

Re: Which Template Engine?

"R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah" <ng4rrjanbiah@r ediffmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Don Sutter" <no@way.com> wrote in message[/color]
news:<A0%ec.909 8$A_4.4100@news read1.news.pas. earthlink.net>. ..[color=blue][color=green]
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm looking for "Template" recomendations for PHP 4, like which one is
> > popular or has the best/most features.
> >
> > I'm somewhat of a newbie with PHP and bacame interested in templates via
> > Wrox's Professional PHP. They were using FastTemplate. The FastTemplate
> > website gave me the impression it was designed around php3 and maybe[/color][/color]
hasn't[color=blue][color=green]
> > been updated in a while.
> >
> > I also ran across patTemplate and Smarty.
> >
> > Opinions?[/color]
>
> Please look at the archives. The answer is totally disputed. For
> example, see one of the previous discussions
>[/color]
<http://groups.google.com/groups?thre...wsreader.mailg
ate.org>[color=blue]
>
> Also see:
> 1. http://www.phpbuilder.com/annotate/m...hp3?id=1013434
> 2. http://www.phpbuilder.com/annotate/m...hp3?id=1013711
> 3. http://www.phpbuilder.com/annotate/m...hp3?id=1013461
> 4. http://www.phppatterns.com/index.php...cleview/4/1/1/
> 5. http://www.massassi.com/php/articles/template_engines/
> 6. http://www.cs.usfca.edu/~parrt/papers/mvc.templates.pdf
>
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> http://www.sendmetoindia.com - Send Me to India!
> Email: rrjanbiah-at-Y!com[/color]

Very good reading there..

I agree, I write PHP using objects for everything. I don't think a template
engine will help you at all.

- Hayden

[R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah]

Re: Which Template Engine?

"Hayden Kirk" <spam@spam.co m> wrote in message news:<Wrkfc.472 $cY5.45732@news 02.tsnz.net>...[color=blue]
> "R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah" <ng4rrjanbiah@r ediffmail.com> wrote in message
> news:abc4d8b8.0 404140626.2db69 cac@posting.goo gle.com...[/color]
<snip>[color=blue]
> Very good reading there..
>
> I agree, I write PHP using objects for everything. I don't think a template
> engine will help you at all.
>[/color]

Actually, when I was forced to use the phpBB like template, I was
searching for some rational explanations to prove that was messy to my
boss. I was stopped by those sites that reflected my own ideas about
the template engines. It is nice to see many people have same opinions
on this.

I too use a kind of template system---but is totally powered by
PHP;-) <http://groups.google.c om/groups?selm=abc 4d8b8.040213054 7.2f09d2af%40po sting.google.co m>

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