Can anyone tell me why this doesnt work please

[nigel.t@by.uk]

Using linux

<?php
exec("/bin/tar -cvzf myfile.tgz /home/",$arrayout,$re turnval);
?>

or perhaps try it on your system and tell me if it does/doesnt and what
your linux is?

I've also tried

<?php
exec("/bin/tar -c * \| gzip \myfile.tgz",$a rrayout,$return val);
?>

Both work fine from the command line neither work at all from PHP

-nigel-

[Jerry Stuckle]

Re: Can anyone tell me why this doesnt work please

nigel.t@by.uk wrote:

Using linux
>
<?php
exec("/bin/tar -cvzf myfile.tgz /home/",$arrayout,$re turnval);
?>
>
or perhaps try it on your system and tell me if it does/doesnt and what
your linux is?
>
I've also tried
>
<?php
exec("/bin/tar -c * \| gzip \myfile.tgz",$a rrayout,$return val);
?>
>
Both work fine from the command line neither work at all from PHP
>
-nigel-

What kind of error do you get?

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[nigel.t@by.uk]

Re: Can anyone tell me why this doesnt work please

In article <BNudneEBxth0dm PZnZ2dnUVZ_rmdn Z2d@comcast.com >,
jstucklex@attgl obal.net says...

nigel.t@by.uk wrote:

Using linux

<?php
exec("/bin/tar -cvzf myfile.tgz /home/",$arrayout,$re turnval);
?>

or perhaps try it on your system and tell me if it does/doesnt and what
your linux is?

I've also tried

<?php
exec("/bin/tar -c * \| gzip \myfile.tgz",$a rrayout,$return val);
?>

Both work fine from the command line neither work at all from PHP

-nigel-

>
What kind of error do you get?
>
--

Hi Jerry - $returnval contains '2' in each case.
$arrayout never seems to contain anything.

I can however do -
tar --help
which does return the help.

I've also tried to archive a single file with the same result
ie. tar -cf myfile.tar foo
returns an error of 2

and i've tried the --ignore-failed-read flag to no avail.

-nigel-

[Jerry Stuckle]

Re: Can anyone tell me why this doesnt work please

nigel.t@by.uk wrote:

In article <BNudneEBxth0dm PZnZ2dnUVZ_rmdn Z2d@comcast.com >,
jstucklex@attgl obal.net says...
>

>>nigel.t@by. uk wrote:
>>

>>>Using linux
>>>
>>><?php
>>>exec("/bin/tar -cvzf myfile.tgz /home/",$arrayout,$re turnval);
>>>?>
>>>
>>>or perhaps try it on your system and tell me if it does/doesnt and what
>>>your linux is?
>>>
>>>I've also tried
>>>
>>><?php
>> exec("/bin/tar -c * \| gzip \myfile.tgz",$a rrayout,$return val);
>>>?>
>>>
>>>Both work fine from the command line neither work at all from PHP
>>>
>>>-nigel-

>>
>>What kind of error do you get?
>>
>>--

>
>
Hi Jerry - $returnval contains '2' in each case.
$arrayout never seems to contain anything.
>
I can however do -
tar --help
which does return the help.
>
I've also tried to archive a single file with the same result
ie. tar -cf myfile.tar foo
returns an error of 2
>
and i've tried the --ignore-failed-read flag to no avail.
>
-nigel-

Nigel,

Does the cron job user have write access to the directory where you're
writing myfile.tar? And does it have read access to /home?

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[Andy Hassall]

Re: Can anyone tell me why this doesnt work please

On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 16:37:35 GMT, nigel.t@by.uk wrote:

>In article <BNudneEBxth0dm PZnZ2dnUVZ_rmdn Z2d@comcast.com >,
>jstucklex@attg lobal.net says...

>nigel.t@by.uk wrote:

Using linux
>
<?php
exec("/bin/tar -cvzf myfile.tgz /home/",$arrayout,$re turnval);
?>
<?php
exec("/bin/tar -c * \| gzip \myfile.tgz",$a rrayout,$return val);
?>
>
Both work fine from the command line neither work at all from PHP

>>
>What kind of error do you get?

>
>Hi Jerry - $returnval contains '2' in each case.
>$arrayout never seems to contain anything.
>
>I can however do -
>tar --help
>which does return the help.
>
>I've also tried to archive a single file with the same result
>ie. tar -cf myfile.tar foo
>returns an error of 2
>
>and i've tried the --ignore-failed-read flag to no avail.

errno 2 is "No such file or directory" - so I'm not quite sure what to make of
that; permission denied would seem more likely.

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[Chris Parker]

Re: Can anyone tell me why this doesnt work please


nigel.t@by.uk wrote:

Using linux
>
<?php
exec("/bin/tar -cvzf myfile.tgz /home/",$arrayout,$re turnval);
?>
>
or perhaps try it on your system and tell me if it does/doesnt and what
your linux is?
>
I've also tried
>
<?php
exec("/bin/tar -c * \| gzip \myfile.tgz",$a rrayout,$return val);
?>
>
Both work fine from the command line neither work at all from PHP
>
-nigel-

Append this:

for ($i = 0; $i < count($arrayout ); $i++) {
echo $arrayout[$i] . "\n";

}

and see what the command output is.

Chris

[nigel.t@by.uk]

Re: Can anyone tell me why this doesnt work please

In article <1157580853.031 347.172630@i42g 2000cwa.googleg roups.com>,
mrcsparker@gmai l.com says...

>
nigel.t@by.uk wrote:

Using linux

<?php
exec("/bin/tar -cvzf myfile.tgz /home/",$arrayout,$re turnval);
?>

or perhaps try it on your system and tell me if it does/doesnt and what
your linux is?

I've also tried

<?php
exec("/bin/tar -c * \| gzip \myfile.tgz",$a rrayout,$return val);
?>

Both work fine from the command line neither work at all from PHP

-nigel-

>
Append this:
>
for ($i = 0; $i < count($arrayout ); $i++) {
echo $arrayout[$i] . "\n";
>
}
>
and see what the command output is.
>
Chris
>
>

Thanks Chris but I already have this which is how I know the array is
empty. I'm getting more confused by the minute.

-nigel-

[nigel.t@by.uk]

Re: Can anyone tell me why this doesnt work please

In article <NJGdnWxbnZ2diG LZnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@comcast.c om>,
jstucklex@attgl obal.net says...

>
Nigel,
>
Does the cron job user have write access to the directory where you're
writing myfile.tar? And does it have read access to /home?
>
>

Hi Jerry

Sadly I'm not a Linux expert - I know what persmissions are but I dont
know what a "cron job" is.
I'm guessing you mean the apache server?

/home is the directory the php file is in as well as the test file to be
archived and is set to 777 for directory and all files - I panicked when
I first couldnt make it work! I assume that means it has full read/write.

I have so far assumed all permissions are granted as the machine is my
test machine not networked to anything and I have everything I can find
set to 777 to avoid this ... I seem to remember running chmod 777 from
the root and recursing... I then manually change back my final test
files/dirs to 755 and so on... ie the reverse procedure used on a public
system.

I also log on as root. (I have tried another user account and that
performs the same).

I can see where you are going and you may well be right - I just dont
know what to look for ... how can I identify the less obvious things I
need to check for permissions? (I can do file & directories its perhaps
that cron job etc.)

-nigel-

[nigel.t@by.uk]

Re: Can anyone tell me why this doesnt work please

In article <03duf2lu9v47h7 tltmbvtdsgd7gjn a8oge@4ax.com>, andy@andyh.co.u k
says

Hi Jerry - $returnval contains '2' in each case.
$arrayout never seems to contain anything.

I can however do -
tar --help
which does return the help.

I've also tried to archive a single file with the same result
ie. tar -cf myfile.tar foo
returns an error of 2

and i've tried the --ignore-failed-read flag to no avail.

>
errno 2 is "No such file or directory" - so I'm not quite sure what to make of
that; permission denied would seem more likely.
>

Thanks for the info Andy.
Can you tell me where that is documented - I can't find it.

I don't get this - the same error 2 occurs even if I use * or *.* or just
a directory name. The tar manual suggests those are all valid so I dont
know how it can think the file isnt there... stwange .....vewy stwange...

This is bound to be a permissions thing somehow ... you're both right I
expect... I just can't find the blockage.

-nigel-

[Petr Vileta]

Re: Can anyone tell me why this doesnt work please

<nigel.t@by.ukw rote in
news:MPG.1f68e3 133d5c070c9898f e@news-text.blueyonder .co.uk...

>
Using linux
>
<?php
exec("/bin/tar -cvzf myfile.tgz /home/",$arrayout,$re turnval);
?>
>

Try to use singe quote instead the double quote. I'm no sure if this is the
same in PHP as is in Perl but in Perl double quote evaluate something but
single quote don't.
Example in Perl:

$name = "nigel";
print "Hallo $name";

>Hallo nigel

$name = "nigel";
print 'Hallo $name';

>Hallo $name

Maybe is some similar in PHP.

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[nigel.t@by.uk]

Re: Can anyone tell me why this doesnt work please

In article <ednpik$eeb$1@n s.felk.cvut.cz> , stoupa@practiso ft.cz says...

<
Try to use singe quote instead the double quote. I'm no sure if this is the
same in PHP as is in Perl but in Perl double quote evaluate something but
single quote don't.
Example in Perl:
>
$name = "nigel";
print "Hallo $name";

Hallo nigel

>
$name = "nigel";
print 'Hallo $name';

Hallo $name

>
Maybe is some similar in PHP.
>
--
>
Petr Vileta, Czech republic
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from another non-spammer site please.)
>
>
>

Thanks Petr - yes the quotes are different in PHP too... doubles allow
more escaped characters.

Turns out that wasn't it though - see my next post !

-nigel-

[nigel.t@by.uk]

Re: Can anyone tell me why this doesnt work please - GOT IT !!!


damn and blast ... colour me stupid and spank my soft extremeties...

It was those last explanations that set me thinking...
It had to be permissions because it works ok on the command line so...
I ran my chmod -R / again... (not recommended on a live system folks!)

It turns out the directory the .tar file is created in must have 777
permissions ... 775 wont do it... it must have that extra bit set.

(I dont understand why at all - I can exec other apps that write to files
without any trouble at all... I REALLY would like an explanation if
anyone has one, bearing that fact in mind)

It generates a file not found because it's looking for the tar file and
hasn't created it (possibly error reporting could be tightened up to be
more accurate in Tar) ...

Anyways -- many thanks to all who followed me on my wild goose chase.
All I have to do now is see if I can make it work on the live system...

Oh boy oh boy.... aint pc's fun. I can even go to bed tonight.

-nigel-

[Petr Vileta]

Re: Can anyone tell me why this doesnt work please - GOT IT !!!

<nigel.t@by.ukw rote in
news:MPG.1f6983 e17848cc4798990 4@news-text.blueyonder .co.uk...

>
It turns out the directory the .tar file is created in must have 777
permissions ... 775 wont do it... it must have that extra bit set.
>

I'm not a Linux guru but maybe can help you to use some tar parameter. Try
to tell to tar thaht the temporary file must be created in /tmp dir. This
directory used to have 777 privileges at all. Or try to create tar file in
/tmp directory and after creating copy tar file to desired destination.
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[nigel.t@by.uk]

Re: Can anyone tell me why this doesnt work please - GOT IT !!!

In article <edp72e$156v$3@ ns.felk.cvut.cz >, stoupa@practiso ft.cz says...

<nigel.t@by.ukw rote in
news:MPG.1f6983 e17848cc4798990 4@news-text.blueyonder .co.uk...

It turns out the directory the .tar file is created in must have 777
permissions ... 775 wont do it... it must have that extra bit set.

I'm not a Linux guru but maybe can help you to use some tar parameter. Try
to tell to tar thaht the temporary file must be created in /tmp dir. This
directory used to have 777 privileges at all. Or try to create tar file in
/tmp directory and after creating copy tar file to desired destination.
--
>
Petr Vileta, Czech republic
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from another non-spammer site please.)
>
>
>

Thanks Petr thats pretty much what I did.
Its still a puzzle I need to understand but at least I can get it working
now. I just hope I dont run into problems using chmod with PHP
through apache or that will screw me up.

-nigel-