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  • Darren Gates

    phpMyAdmin in Flash

    hi PHP users,

    Here's a Flash 7 version of phpMyAdmin:



    Special features include: drag-and-drop interface for InnoDB table
    relationships, quick record editing, tree-menu display for databases
    and tables, support for multiple hosts, and much more...

    Thanks,
    Darren
  • Hayden Kirk

    #2
    Re: phpMyAdmin in Flash

    "Darren Gates" <g8z@yahoo.co m> wrote in message
    news:5ebc553c.0 404011149.5d80a e8f@posting.goo gle.com...[color=blue]
    > hi PHP users,
    >
    > Here's a Flash 7 version of phpMyAdmin:
    >
    > http://www.tufat.com/phpflashmyadmin.php
    >
    > Special features include: drag-and-drop interface for InnoDB table
    > relationships, quick record editing, tree-menu display for databases
    > and tables, support for multiple hosts, and much more...
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Darren[/color]

    Looks very good,

    Keep up the good work, gave me a few ideas for other projects.

    How hard is it to do Flash/Php sites? I've never tried using flash, but your
    example gave me a good idea.

    Thanks
    - Hayden


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    • Darren Gates

      #3
      Re: phpMyAdmin in Flash

      hi Hayden,

      It's very simple, especially if you're familiar with OOP. Flash 7 is quite
      easy to pick up since it's very object-oriented.

      regards,
      Darren

      "Hayden Kirk" <spam@spam.co m> wrote in message
      news:1r%ac.6266 $u%1.664810@new s02.tsnz.net...[color=blue]
      > "Darren Gates" <g8z@yahoo.co m> wrote in message
      > news:5ebc553c.0 404011149.5d80a e8f@posting.goo gle.com...[color=green]
      > > hi PHP users,
      > >
      > > Here's a Flash 7 version of phpMyAdmin:
      > >
      > > http://www.tufat.com/phpflashmyadmin.php
      > >
      > > Special features include: drag-and-drop interface for InnoDB table
      > > relationships, quick record editing, tree-menu display for databases
      > > and tables, support for multiple hosts, and much more...
      > >
      > > Thanks,
      > > Darren[/color]
      >
      > Looks very good,
      >
      > Keep up the good work, gave me a few ideas for other projects.
      >
      > How hard is it to do Flash/Php sites? I've never tried using flash, but[/color]
      your[color=blue]
      > example gave me a good idea.
      >
      > Thanks
      > - Hayden
      >
      >[/color]


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      • somaBoy MX

        #4
        Re: phpMyAdmin in Flash

        "Darren Gates" <g8z@yahoo.co m> wrote...
        [color=blue]
        > Here's a Flash 7 version of phpMyAdmin:
        >
        > http://www.tufat.com/phpflashmyadmin.php
        >
        > Special features include: drag-and-drop interface for InnoDB table
        > relationships, quick record editing, tree-menu display for databases
        > and tables, support for multiple hosts, and much more...[/color]

        Excellent working example of the flash "rich internet application" paradigm.
        If you continue to fine tune it and add features it will become a very
        welcome alternative to phpMyAdmin.

        Did you use amfPHP on the backend?


        ..soma


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        • Brandon Blackmoor

          #5
          Re: phpMyAdmin in Flash

          Darren Gates wrote:[color=blue]
          >
          > hi PHP users,
          > Here's a Flash 7 version of phpMyAdmin:[/color]

          Good god, no. The last thing the world needs is another Flash
          abomination. If Macromedia were to vanish along with every Flash plug-in
          on the planet, the world would be better place. Flash, like HTML mail
          and ActiveX, has no redeeming virtues.

          bblackmoor
          2004-04-02

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          • Darren Gates

            #6
            Re: phpMyAdmin in Flash

            hi,

            XML was used on the backend. Although there is some speed difference between
            AMFPHP and XML, I feel that the gain in readability and editability makes
            XML a more desirable communication protocol. Users on high-speed connections
            will probably never notice any difference anyway.

            regards,
            Darren

            "somaBoy MX" <none@nonesuch. net> wrote in message
            news:406d499a$0 $2018$ba620e4c@ news.skynet.be. ..[color=blue]
            > "Darren Gates" <g8z@yahoo.co m> wrote...
            >[color=green]
            > > Here's a Flash 7 version of phpMyAdmin:
            > >
            > > http://www.tufat.com/phpflashmyadmin.php
            > >
            > > Special features include: drag-and-drop interface for InnoDB table
            > > relationships, quick record editing, tree-menu display for databases
            > > and tables, support for multiple hosts, and much more...[/color]
            >
            > Excellent working example of the flash "rich internet application"[/color]
            paradigm.[color=blue]
            > If you continue to fine tune it and add features it will become a very
            > welcome alternative to phpMyAdmin.
            >
            > Did you use amfPHP on the backend?
            >
            >
            > .soma
            >
            >[/color]


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            • Darren Gates

              #7
              Re: phpMyAdmin in Flash

              Regardless of whether one feels that frames or Flash is evil or not... there
              are many things that can be done in Flash that are simply *impossible* (or
              at least, REALLY hard) to implement using HTML.

              I present to you the "relationsh ips building" tool in phpFlashMyAdmin ... how
              would this be done using phpMyAdmin (with InnoDB tables)? Well, you could
              certainly could use "alter table" SQL syntax, but that's a pain to do over
              and over for every change. Then, to delete or alter the relationship, you
              must also use SQL... why not simply drag and drop the relationships visually
              and instantaneously ? By using Flash, creating and modifying foreign key
              relationships among tables (and thus enforcing so-called "referentia l
              integrity") is WAY easier than by executing SQL.

              And then there are the page refreshes... After I've accessed the 15th page
              of a recordset and edited some number of records using phpMyAdmin, I'm
              nearly about to pull my hair out waiting for pages to refresh!
              phpFlashMyAdmin elminates page refreshes completely.

              "Brandon Blackmoor" <bblackmoor@spa mcop.net> wrote in message
              news:c4jscr$2ka r26$1@ID-97660.news.uni-berlin.de...[color=blue]
              > Darren Gates wrote:[color=green]
              > >
              > > hi PHP users,
              > > Here's a Flash 7 version of phpMyAdmin:[/color]
              >
              > Good god, no. The last thing the world needs is another Flash
              > abomination. If Macromedia were to vanish along with every Flash plug-in
              > on the planet, the world would be better place. Flash, like HTML mail
              > and ActiveX, has no redeeming virtues.
              >
              > bblackmoor
              > 2004-04-02[/color]


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              • Joel Farris

                #8
                Re: phpMyAdmin in Flash

                Brandon Blackmoor wrote:
                [color=blue][color=green]
                >> Darren Gates wrote:
                >> hi PHP users,
                >> Here's a Flash 7 version of phpMyAdmin:[/color]
                >
                >
                > Good god, no. The last thing the world needs is another Flash
                > abomination. If Macromedia were to vanish along with every Flash plug-in
                > on the planet, the world would be better place. Flash, like HTML mail
                > and ActiveX, has no redeeming virtues.[/color]


                I'll bet you keep the window blinds in your apartment closed all day long
                too, huh?
                --
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                twinkledust Designs | A: Why is top posting frowned upon?
                http://twinkledust.com |
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                | (this fifth line in my sig angers the net kops!)

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                • Ian.H

                  #9
                  Re: phpMyAdmin in Flash

                  On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 11:10:48 -0500, Joel Farris wrote:


                  OK.. I'll play...

                  [color=blue]
                  > Brandon Blackmoor wrote:
                  >[color=green][color=darkred]
                  >>> Darren Gates wrote:
                  >>> hi PHP users,
                  >>> Here's a Flash 7 version of phpMyAdmin:[/color]
                  >>
                  >>
                  >> Good god, no. The last thing the world needs is another Flash
                  >> abomination. If Macromedia were to vanish along with every Flash plug-in
                  >> on the planet, the world would be better place. Flash, like HTML mail
                  >> and ActiveX, has no redeeming virtues.[/color]
                  >
                  >
                  > I'll bet you keep the window blinds in your apartment closed all day long
                  > too, huh?[/color]


                  The problem is IMO.. that Web sites should be (and I thought the purpose)
                  to display information and the likes (obviously administration for this is
                  assumed too for some situations). The need to make a Web site an "OS style
                  application" or a "glossy brochure" is? There's 2 much better alternatives
                  to this:


                  1:> An OS application
                  2:> A glossy brochure


                  So many sites these days are bloated with unneccessary graphics that just
                  hinder the loading of the page.. stupid background music and other
                  kid-like things. Unless the site is depicting an artists gallery or
                  similar... plaintext works just fine to read info does it not?
                  Illustrations / diagrams etc are often used to explain more complex
                  examples (or for general windoze users).. but these add to the
                  _information_.. they're not there to "look pretty".

                  HTML renders in "all" browsers.. frames in the majority (FWIW.. I _HATE_
                  frames in _sites_.. administration applications however.. it does have
                  benefits sometimes)... but flash requires external plugins.. more often
                  than not heavy loading times (initially) which is not good for many users
                  (bear in mind that the majority of 'net users are still on dialup
                  connections).



                  Regards,

                  Ian

                  --
                  Ian.H
                  digiServ Network
                  London, UK


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                  • Jan Pieter Kunst

                    #10
                    Re: phpMyAdmin in Flash

                    In article <pan.2004.04.05 .16.51.07.47000 @bubbleboy.digi serv.net>,
                    "Ian.H" <ian@WINDOZEdig iserv.net> wrote:
                    [color=blue]
                    > Web sites should be (and I thought the purpose)
                    > to display information and the likes[/color]

                    Web sites 'should be' whatever people want them to be. If that includes
                    OS-style applications and glossy brochures, so be it.

                    I too dislike Flash in most cases (because in most cases it's used to
                    display annoying advertisements) but I can certainly see that it can be
                    useful if the goal is to mimic a desktop-like application. I have
                    nothing against that goal, as such. (But I would rather see open tools
                    and formats like (ECMA|Java)Scri pt and SVG being used than something
                    proprietary like Flash, though.)

                    JP

                    --
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                    E-mail adres is <jpk"at"akamail .com>, waarbij "at" = @.

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                    • Darren Gates

                      #11
                      Re: phpMyAdmin in Flash

                      But why limit ourselves to just displaying information on websites? Why
                      can't the web have OS-style apps and glossy brochures? To me, Flash enriches
                      the user's overall web experience. The Flash plugin is nearly ubiquitous at
                      this point, and it's easy to aquire for users who don't have it. Using Flash
                      with a server-side technology like PHP makes programming a rich, web-based
                      application 100x easier. The question is not 'why use flash' but 'why NOT
                      use flash!'


                      "Ian.H" <ian@WINDOZEdig iserv.net> wrote in message
                      news:pan.2004.0 4.05.16.51.07.4 7000@bubbleboy. digiserv.net...[color=blue]
                      > On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 11:10:48 -0500, Joel Farris wrote:
                      >
                      >
                      > OK.. I'll play...
                      >
                      >[color=green]
                      > > Brandon Blackmoor wrote:
                      > >[color=darkred]
                      > >>> Darren Gates wrote:
                      > >>> hi PHP users,
                      > >>> Here's a Flash 7 version of phpMyAdmin:
                      > >>
                      > >>
                      > >> Good god, no. The last thing the world needs is another Flash
                      > >> abomination. If Macromedia were to vanish along with every Flash[/color][/color][/color]
                      plug-in[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
                      > >> on the planet, the world would be better place. Flash, like HTML mail
                      > >> and ActiveX, has no redeeming virtues.[/color]
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > I'll bet you keep the window blinds in your apartment closed all day[/color][/color]
                      long[color=blue][color=green]
                      > > too, huh?[/color]
                      >
                      >
                      > The problem is IMO.. that Web sites should be (and I thought the purpose)
                      > to display information and the likes (obviously administration for this is
                      > assumed too for some situations). The need to make a Web site an "OS style
                      > application" or a "glossy brochure" is? There's 2 much better alternatives
                      > to this:
                      >
                      >
                      > 1:> An OS application
                      > 2:> A glossy brochure
                      >
                      >
                      > So many sites these days are bloated with unneccessary graphics that just
                      > hinder the loading of the page.. stupid background music and other
                      > kid-like things. Unless the site is depicting an artists gallery or
                      > similar... plaintext works just fine to read info does it not?
                      > Illustrations / diagrams etc are often used to explain more complex
                      > examples (or for general windoze users).. but these add to the
                      > _information_.. they're not there to "look pretty".
                      >
                      > HTML renders in "all" browsers.. frames in the majority (FWIW.. I _HATE_
                      > frames in _sites_.. administration applications however.. it does have
                      > benefits sometimes)... but flash requires external plugins.. more often
                      > than not heavy loading times (initially) which is not good for many users
                      > (bear in mind that the majority of 'net users are still on dialup
                      > connections).
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > Regards,
                      >
                      > Ian
                      >
                      > --
                      > Ian.H
                      > digiServ Network
                      > London, UK
                      > http://digiserv.net/
                      >[/color]


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                      • Brandon Blackmoor

                        #12
                        Re: phpMyAdmin in Flash

                        Darren Gates wrote:[color=blue]
                        >
                        > The question is not 'why use flash' but 'why NOT
                        > use flash!'[/color]

                        Because it's a buggy, nonstandard, proprietary plug-in that breaks
                        numerous web fundamentals and encourages (to put it mildly -- some would
                        say "mandates") user-hostile interface design. Flash is, in just about
                        every way, one of the worst things to happen to the web since frames.

                        Don't install it, don't use it, and don't tolerate people who do.

                        'Nuff said.

                        bblackmoor
                        2004-04-06

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                        • Darren Gates

                          #13
                          Re: phpMyAdmin in Flash

                          Whether a user interface is user-friendly and well-designed depends on the
                          designer. There is no question that Flash can be abused, but so can HTML
                          (think animated gifs and websites that look like random notes).

                          While it's true that a lot of Flash sites have poor interfaces, that's not
                          inherent to the technology. Flash can be a tool to enhance interfaces if
                          used well.


                          "Brandon Blackmoor" <bblackmoor@spa mcop.net> wrote in message
                          news:c4vafm$2lv ahq$1@ID-97660.news.uni-berlin.de...[color=blue]
                          > Darren Gates wrote:[color=green]
                          > >
                          > > The question is not 'why use flash' but 'why NOT
                          > > use flash!'[/color]
                          >
                          > Because it's a buggy, nonstandard, proprietary plug-in that breaks
                          > numerous web fundamentals and encourages (to put it mildly -- some would
                          > say "mandates") user-hostile interface design. Flash is, in just about
                          > every way, one of the worst things to happen to the web since frames.
                          >
                          > Don't install it, don't use it, and don't tolerate people who do.
                          >
                          > 'Nuff said.
                          >
                          > bblackmoor
                          > 2004-04-06[/color]


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                          • John Dunlop

                            #14
                            [OT] Difference between WWW and Internet (was: phpMyAdmin in Flash)

                            Darren Gates wrote topsyturvily:
                            [color=blue]
                            > But why limit ourselves to just displaying information on websites? Why
                            > can't the web have OS-style apps and glossy brochures?[/color]

                            I don't think the question is "Why can't ... ", but rather "Why
                            shouldn't ... ". My answer would be, as Ian has said, that that is
                            not what the web was intended for or is suited to. By presenting
                            "OS-style apps and glossy brochures" on the web, you're losing out on
                            the advantages the web has over other mediums.

                            Why not exploit the strengths of the WWW? Or has the puissance of
                            the web passed you by?

                            WWW != Internet

                            Advanced functionality requires Internet-enabled client-server software with optimized user interfaces that cannot be delivered in a Web browser. Reserve the Web for hypertext and content features.


                            --
                            Jock

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                            • Ian.H

                              #15
                              Re: phpMyAdmin in Flash

                              [ Rearranged into correct Usenet (and common sense) order ]

                              [color=blue]
                              > "Brandon Blackmoor" <bblackmoor@spa mcop.net> wrote in message
                              > news:c4vafm$2lv ahq$1@ID-97660.news.uni-berlin.de...[color=green]
                              >> Darren Gates wrote:[color=darkred]
                              >> >
                              >> > The question is not 'why use flash' but 'why NOT
                              >> > use flash!'[/color]
                              >>
                              >> Because it's a buggy, nonstandard, proprietary plug-in that breaks
                              >> numerous web fundamentals and encourages (to put it mildly -- some would
                              >> say "mandates") user-hostile interface design. Flash is, in just about
                              >> every way, one of the worst things to happen to the web since frames.
                              >>
                              >> Don't install it, don't use it, and don't tolerate people who do.
                              >>
                              >> 'Nuff said.
                              >>
                              >> bblackmoor
                              >> 2004-04-06[/color][/color]


                              On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 04:15:12 +0000, Darren Gates wrote:
                              [color=blue]
                              > Whether a user interface is user-friendly and well-designed depends on the
                              > designer. There is no question that Flash can be abused, but so can HTML
                              > (think animated gifs and websites that look like random notes).
                              >
                              > While it's true that a lot of Flash sites have poor interfaces, that's not
                              > inherent to the technology. Flash can be a tool to enhance interfaces if
                              > used well.[/color]


                              I really suggest trying to stop thinking like micro$h!te.. look at the
                              problems it causes them.

                              You seem to be all for this "rich experience" and the likes... now here's
                              the blunt part... It's an A D M I N T O O L! No more.. no less.

                              This is the problem with a lot of windoze (l)users.. they seem to think
                              that "pretty point n drool" is the answer to everything... well I've got
                              news for you sunshine... it most certainly is _NOT_ the answer to
                              everything (just like cmdline > GUI for many many MANY things).



                              Regards,

                              Ian


                              PS: Please learn to post _properly_.

                              --
                              Ian.H
                              digiServ Network
                              London, UK


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