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  • gardnern

    New to OO programming

    Ive been using PHP 4 for about 3.5 years now, and havnt messed with
    objects and classes for whatever reason, however I know I need to start
    using them. With someone who has no class/object programming
    experience, php's manual is quite dull and leaves me scratching my
    head. Is there a more indepth manual or tutortial somewhere that can
    explain everything, and more importantly... I cant figure out why and
    when an object/class would be used? Im also switching to PHP 5. Thanks.

  • Richard Levasseur

    #2
    Re: New to OO programming

    OOP isn't a catch all for everything. For larger application
    development it is a godsend, though.

    PHP5 follows most of the OOP principles, and resembles java in many
    ways. Any book, tutorial, information on Object Oriented Programming
    will be relevent to PHP's Object model. There are only a few
    exceptions between PHP5 and general OO models that i've run into in the
    past (or more precisely, frustration at single inheritance)

    Generally, however, objects are used when you have a lot of code that
    is similar between projects or other entities in the project, such as
    User's information, Database connections, Shopping carts, etc etc. All
    those things are pretty much the same between projects, and can be
    extended to do more for any specific application.

    I wish i could provide a good resource for you, but i've yet to find
    one myself.

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    • Tony Marston

      #3
      Re: New to OO programming

      Try http://www.tonymarston.co.uk/php-mys...seobjects.html and


      For a more advanced version you can download and view the code in my sample
      application at http://www.tonymarston.net/php-mysql...plication.html

      You might also find
      http://www.tonymarston.co.uk/php-mys...-heretics.html rather
      interesting.

      --
      Tony Marston

      This is Tony Marston's web site, containing personal information plus pages devoted to the Uniface 4GL development language, XML and XSL, PHP and MySQL, and a bit of COBOL




      "gardnern" <nathan@factory 8.com> wrote in message
      news:1141841964 .202676.277930@ v46g2000cwv.goo glegroups.com.. .[color=blue]
      > Ive been using PHP 4 for about 3.5 years now, and havnt messed with
      > objects and classes for whatever reason, however I know I need to start
      > using them. With someone who has no class/object programming
      > experience, php's manual is quite dull and leaves me scratching my
      > head. Is there a more indepth manual or tutortial somewhere that can
      > explain everything, and more importantly... I cant figure out why and
      > when an object/class would be used? Im also switching to PHP 5. Thanks.
      >[/color]


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      • Scott

        #4
        Re: New to OO programming

        I agree - the manual is pretty dull, especially when you don't
        understand the whole purpose behind using OOP.

        Richard was right when he said "For larger application development it is
        a godsend, though." One reason why OOP is the way to go when developing
        larger applications is because it allows you to focus on one particular
        part of the application at a time, instead of trying to constantly keep
        the whole big picture in your head.

        For example, let's say you're developing a shopping cart. Think of the
        cart itself as an object - a real world physical object, like a cart in
        a grocery store. What purpose does the cart serve? It holds items. On
        a website, a cart needs to be able to receive and remove items. So your
        initial class would probably start out something like this (I'll do this
        with PHP4 for now for the sake of simplicity):

        class cart {

        var $items = array(); // This will hold all the items in the cart

        function addItem($itemNo , $qty) {
        if(isset($this->items[$itemNo])) {
        $this->items[$itemNo]['qty'] += $qty;
        } else {
        $this->items[$itemNo]['qty'] = $qty;
        }
        }

        function removeItem($ite mNo, $qty) {
        if(isset($this->items[$itemNo])) {
        $this->items[$itemNo] -= $qty;
        }
        }
        }

        Now, what you have is all the code that affects the shopping cart in one
        place. You add properties and methods (vars and functions) based on what
        functionality you want your cart to have. For example, you'll probably
        want to add a displayContents () function for users to view the contents
        of the cart.

        The items you put in the cart can also be objects with properties such
        as price, weight, item number, and name (although you'd need to do your
        addItem function a little differently than I did). This will make it
        easy to access these properties when you display the cart contents.
        ($this->items[$itemNo]->price) or something to that effect.

        While PHP 5 has far superior OOP capabilities than PHP 4, it is also
        much more complex. There's a book by W.J. Gilmore called "Beginning PHP
        5 and MySQL: From Novice to Professional". While this wasn't the best
        PHP book I've read, it did do a good job of explaining OOP in PHP 5.

        Hope this helped!

        Scott

        gardnern wrote:[color=blue]
        > Ive been using PHP 4 for about 3.5 years now, and havnt messed with
        > objects and classes for whatever reason, however I know I need to start
        > using them. With someone who has no class/object programming
        > experience, php's manual is quite dull and leaves me scratching my
        > head. Is there a more indepth manual or tutortial somewhere that can
        > explain everything, and more importantly... I cant figure out why and
        > when an object/class would be used? Im also switching to PHP 5. Thanks.
        >[/color]

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        • gardnern

          #5
          Re: New to OO programming

          Thanks for all the replies, some great info here. Ill read through your
          site Tony, and Ill be sure to check out that book Scott. I have W.J.
          Gilmores book called "PHP and E-Commerce: From Novice to Professional"
          and found it helpfull, so Im sure this one will too. Thanks again.

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          • simonp@nospam.com

            #6
            Re: New to OO programming

            Scott <nospam@nospam. com> wrote:[color=blue]
            > I agree - the manual is pretty dull, especially when you don't
            > understand the whole purpose behind using OOP.
            >
            >
            > Hope this helped!
            >
            > Scott
            >[color=green]
            >>[/color][/color]

            Excellent precis. Thank you.

            Simon

            --
            Stupendous Tales

            Speculative Fiction, Pulp Dreams

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            • Scott

              #7
              Re: New to OO programming

              Glad you liked it. The benefits of OOP were a bit hazy to me until I
              started thinking about it from the physical world aspect.

              Scott

              simonp@nospam.c om wrote:[color=blue]
              > Scott <nospam@nospam. com> wrote:
              >[color=green]
              >>I agree - the manual is pretty dull, especially when you don't
              >>understand the whole purpose behind using OOP.
              >>
              >>
              >>Hope this helped!
              >>
              >>Scott
              >>
              >>[/color]
              >
              > Excellent precis. Thank you.
              >
              > Simon
              >[/color]

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