feedback wanted

[windandwaves]

Hi Folk

I would like some feedback on my e-commerce development:

https://www.antlervelvet.co.nz/test/index.php

I am particularly interested in the actual e-commerce application (e.g.
navigation, ease of use, etc...). I am trying to turn it into my first open
source project and I want to post it on phpclasses when it is ready.

TIA

- Nicolaas

[juglesh]

Re: feedback wanted


windandwaves wrote:[color=blue]
> Hi Folk
>
> I would like some feedback on my e-commerce development:
>
> www.antlervelvet.co.nz/test/index.php
>
> I am particularly interested in the actual e-commerce application (e.g.
> navigation, ease of use, etc...). I am trying to turn it into my first open
> source project and I want to post it on phpclasses when it is ready.[/color]

i entered blahblah into the login email field, that seemed to throw it
for a loop. You need to verify the email better, it looked like it
tried to enter it into your db. I didnt think I would have to confirm
the email, so i entered a asdflskdfj@dlfk djs.com, which appaently sent
an email to that address, but trying to re-login with a valid address
after that wouldnt work.

having them have to confirm an email is a pain. I'd really have to
want some deer antler for that.

seemed understandable enough before that, I'd put something like 'All
Products' above that list of your products, cuz I was confused there
for a second.

I'll try it again if you fix that stuff.

--
juglesh

[finalwebsites.com]

Re: feedback wanted

Right the login script is not really save.

Try this powerfull php class:

http://www.finalwebsites.com/snippets.php?id=10

regards Olaf

[Steve]

Re: feedback wanted

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:18:46 +1300, windandwaves wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hi Folk
>
> I would like some feedback on my e-commerce development:
>
> www.antlervelvet.co.nz/test/index.php
>
> I am particularly interested in the actual e-commerce application (e.g.
> navigation, ease of use, etc...). I am trying to turn it into my first open
> source project and I want to post it on phpclasses when it is ready.
>
> TIA
>
> - Nicolaas[/color]

1. I'd say that the shopping logic is the wrong way round: let the punter
build up an order, then log in to an account at the end to process it. I
also don't think the page with all the buy now entries on it works - too
long. I would have tried further, but I'm not adding my details to a site
I'll never use (:

2. Upgrade to at least xhtml.

3. Prettify your html: it'll make it easier to see obvious mistakes ( 2
favicons? ). Get rid of this session id that you're passing all over the
place - it's not necessary. Use of (more) session variables will make it
much cleaner. Standardise on the position of your login box.

4. Visit http://validator.w3.org and http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator

5. You could do with a proof reader. I picked up on a number of 'word
,next' grammar errors, and I'm not too sure whether the language is
English or American. Always a problem for those of us here in godzone (:

HTH,

Steve

[windandwaves]

Re: feedback wanted

juglesh wrote:[color=blue]
> windandwaves wrote:[color=green]
>> Hi Folk
>>
>> I would like some feedback on my e-commerce development:
>>
>> www.antlervelvet.co.nz/test/index.php
>>
>> I am particularly interested in the actual e-commerce application
>> (e.g. navigation, ease of use, etc...). I am trying to turn it into
>> my first open source project and I want to post it on phpclasses
>> when it is ready.[/color]
>
> i entered blahblah into the login email field, that seemed to throw it
> for a loop. You need to verify the email better, it looked like it
> tried to enter it into your db. I didnt think I would have to confirm
> the email, so i entered a asdflskdfj@dlfk djs.com, which appaently sent
> an email to that address, but trying to re-login with a valid address
> after that wouldnt work.
>
> having them have to confirm an email is a pain. I'd really have to
> want some deer antler for that.
>
> seemed understandable enough before that, I'd put something like 'All
> Products' above that list of your products, cuz I was confused there
> for a second.
>
> I'll try it again if you fix that stuff.[/color]


Done, thank you for having a look. I have made all the changes requested
;-)

[windandwaves]

Re: feedback wanted

finalwebsites.c om wrote:[color=blue]
> Right the login script is not really save.
>
> Try this powerfull php class:
> http://www.finalwebsites.com/snippets.php?id=10
>
> regards Olaf[/color]

Hi Olaf

I think it is safe now ;-)

[windandwaves]

Re: feedback wanted

Steve wrote:[color=blue]
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:18:46 +1300, windandwaves wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Hi Folk
>>
>> I would like some feedback on my e-commerce development:
>>
>> www.antlervelvet.co.nz/test/index.php
>>
>> I am particularly interested in the actual e-commerce application
>> (e.g. navigation, ease of use, etc...). I am trying to turn it into
>> my first open source project and I want to post it on phpclasses
>> when it is ready.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> - Nicolaas[/color]
>
> 1. I'd say that the shopping logic is the wrong way round: let the
> punter build up an order, then log in to an account at the end to
> process it. I also don't think the page with all the buy now entries
> on it works - too long. I would have tried further, but I'm not
> adding my details to a site I'll never use (:[/color]

I have taken up part of the ideas (no need to activate account). May
implement more.
[color=blue]
> 2. Upgrade to at least xhtml.[/color]

why? what is wrong with html strict?
[color=blue]
> 3. Prettify your html: it'll make it easier to see obvious mistakes (
> 2 favicons? ). Get rid of this session id that you're passing all
> over the place - it's not necessary. Use of (more) session variables
> will make it much cleaner. Standardise on the position of your login
> box.[/color]

I have:
<link rel="icon" href="http://www.antlervelve t.co.nz/i/favicon.ico"
type="image/ico">
<link rel="SHORTCUT ICON"
href="http://www.antlervelve t.co.nz/i/favicon.ico">

I have two, because the first works on some browsers and other works on
other browsers.

[color=blue]
> 4. Visit http://validator.w3.org and
> http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator[/color]

Done, all my pages validate now.
[color=blue]
>
> 5. You could do with a proof reader. I picked up on a number of 'word
> ,next' grammar errors, and I'm not too sure whether the language is
> English or American. Always a problem for those of us here in godzone
> (:[/color]


What do you mean with 'word, next' grammar errors

The American / English one is a funny one. True. Not sure what to say
about that.

Thank you
[color=blue]
> HTH,
>
> Steve[/color]

[Steve]

Re: feedback wanted

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 11:15:31 +1300, windandwaves wrote:
[color=blue]
> Steve wrote:[color=green]
>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:18:46 +1300, windandwaves wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Hi Folk
>>>
>>> I would like some feedback on my e-commerce development:
>>>
>>> www.antlervelvet.co.nz/test/index.php
>>>
>>> I am particularly interested in the actual e-commerce application
>>> (e.g. navigation, ease of use, etc...). I am trying to turn it into
>>> my first open source project and I want to post it on phpclasses
>>> when it is ready.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> - Nicolaas[/color]
>>
>> 1. I'd say that the shopping logic is the wrong way round: let the
>> punter build up an order, then log in to an account at the end to
>> process it. I also don't think the page with all the buy now entries
>> on it works - too long. I would have tried further, but I'm not
>> adding my details to a site I'll never use (:[/color]
>
> I have taken up part of the ideas (no need to activate account). May
> implement more.
>[color=green]
>> 2. Upgrade to at least xhtml.[/color]
>
> why? what is wrong with html strict?[/color]
Progress. Tim designed html a long time ago now. Even simple things like
self closing tags make XHTML much easier to use.[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> 3. Prettify your html: it'll make it easier to see obvious mistakes ( 2
>> favicons? ). Get rid of this session id that you're passing all over
>> the place - it's not necessary. Use of (more) session variables will
>> make it much cleaner. Standardise on the position of your login box.[/color]
>
> I have:
> <link rel="icon" href="http://www.antlervelve t.co.nz/i/favicon.ico"
> type="image/ico">
> <link rel="SHORTCUT ICON"
> href="http://www.antlervelve t.co.nz/i/favicon.ico">
>
> I have two, because the first works on some browsers and other works on
> other browsers.[/color]
See, even ancient old g*ts like me still have plenty to learn (:[color=blue]
>
>[color=green]
>> 4. Visit http://validator.w3.org and
>> http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator[/color]
>
> Done, all my pages validate now.
>
>[color=green]
>> 5. You could do with a proof reader. I picked up on a number of 'word
>> ,next' grammar errors, and I'm not too sure whether the language is
>> English or American. Always a problem for those of us here in godzone
>> (:[/color]
>
>
> What do you mean with 'word, next' grammar errors[/color]
space before, not after the comma.[color=blue]
>
> The American / English one is a funny one. True. Not sure what to say
> about that.[/color]
Choose your audience, and then stick with it. You're going to alienate
somebody either way. Or have 2 versions... although many people use us
settings as default anyway.[color=blue]
>
> Thank you
>[color=green]
>> HTH,
>>
>> Steve[/color][/color]

[juglesh]

Re: feedback wanted


windandwaves wrote:[color=blue]
> juglesh wrote:[color=green]
> > windandwaves wrote:[color=darkred]
> >> Hi Folk
> >>
> >> I would like some feedback on my e-commerce development:
> >>
> >> www.antlervelvet.co.nz/test/index.php
> >>
> >> I am particularly interested in the actual e-commerce application
> >> (e.g. navigation, ease of use, etc...). I am trying to turn it into
> >> my first open source project and I want to post it on phpclasses
> >> when it is ready.[/color]
> >
> > i entered blahblah into the login email field, that seemed to throw it
> > for a loop. You need to verify the email better, it looked like it
> > tried to enter it into your db. I didnt think I would have to confirm
> > the email, so i entered a asdflskdfj@dlfk djs.com, which appaently sent
> > an email to that address, but trying to re-login with a valid address
> > after that wouldnt work.
> >
> > having them have to confirm an email is a pain. I'd really have to
> > want some deer antler for that.
> >
> > seemed understandable enough before that, I'd put something like 'All
> > Products' above that list of your products, cuz I was confused there
> > for a second.
> >
> > I'll try it again if you fix that stuff.[/color]
>
>
> Done, thank you for having a look. I have made all the changes requested
> ;-)[/color]

Still, getting errors.
I revisited the site, it remembered my bogus login email(which I never
confirmed via email). I logged out. browsed to a product, clicked to
order. Entered a valid email and 4digit numeric password. got 'error
in sqler'

gotsta fix yer validator.

I think the thumbnails of products needs captions.

[windandwaves]

Re: feedback wanted

juglesh wrote:[color=blue]
> windandwaves wrote:[color=green]
>> juglesh wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> windandwaves wrote:
>>>> Hi Folk
>>>>
>>>> I would like some feedback on my e-commerce development:
>>>>
>>>> www.antlervelvet.co.nz/test/index.php
>>>>
>>>> I am particularly interested in the actual e-commerce application
>>>> (e.g. navigation, ease of use, etc...). I am trying to turn it
>>>> into my first open source project and I want to post it on
>>>> phpclasses when it is ready.
>>>
>>> i entered blahblah into the login email field, that seemed to throw
>>> it for a loop. You need to verify the email better, it looked like
>>> it tried to enter it into your db. I didnt think I would have to
>>> confirm the email, so i entered a asdflskdfj@dlfk djs.com, which
>>> appaently sent an email to that address, but trying to re-login
>>> with a valid address after that wouldnt work.
>>>
>>> having them have to confirm an email is a pain. I'd really have to
>>> want some deer antler for that.
>>>
>>> seemed understandable enough before that, I'd put something like
>>> 'All Products' above that list of your products, cuz I was confused
>>> there for a second.
>>>
>>> I'll try it again if you fix that stuff.[/color]
>>
>>
>> Done, thank you for having a look. I have made all the changes
>> requested ;-)[/color]
>
> Still, getting errors.
> I revisited the site, it remembered my bogus login email(which I never
> confirmed via email). I logged out. browsed to a product, clicked to
> order. Entered a valid email and 4digit numeric password. got 'error
> in sqler'[/color]

Dude, sorry about that, I tried to replicate it but I could not. I hate
that when it happens.... Client says it does not work, but you can not
replicate the error!
[color=blue]
> gotsta fix yer validator.[/color]

you wah? not sure what you mean
[color=blue]
>
> I think the thumbnails of products needs captions.[/color]

Good idea, will do.

Thanks again

- Nicolaas

[juglesh]

Re: feedback wanted


windandwaves wrote:[color=blue]
> juglesh wrote:[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
> > gotsta fix yer validator.[/color]
>
> you wah? not sure what you mean[/color]

heh heh, sorry, I was speakin' 'merican ;) rural 'merican.
Seems like the page that processes the email addy needs better
validation.[color=blue][color=green]
> >
> > I think the thumbnails of products needs captions.[/color]
>
> Good idea, will do.[/color]

you must be working on it, lots of header errors atm.

--
j

[Jim Michaels]

Re: feedback wanted


"windandwav es" <winandwaves@co ldmail.com> wrote in message
news:hyAxf.1433 6$vH5.770216@ne ws.xtra.co.nz.. .[color=blue]
> Steve wrote:[color=green]
>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:18:46 +1300, windandwaves wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Hi Folk
>>>
>>> I would like some feedback on my e-commerce development:
>>>
>>> www.antlervelvet.co.nz/test/index.php
>>>
>>> I am particularly interested in the actual e-commerce application
>>> (e.g. navigation, ease of use, etc...). I am trying to turn it into
>>> my first open source project and I want to post it on phpclasses
>>> when it is ready.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> - Nicolaas[/color]
>>
>> 1. I'd say that the shopping logic is the wrong way round: let the
>> punter build up an order, then log in to an account at the end to
>> process it. I also don't think the page with all the buy now entries
>> on it works - too long. I would have tried further, but I'm not
>> adding my details to a site I'll never use (:[/color]
>
> I have taken up part of the ideas (no need to activate account). May
> implement more.
>[color=green]
>> 2. Upgrade to at least xhtml.[/color]
>
> why? what is wrong with html strict?[/color]

because I hear XML and xhtml can somehow work together with all these new
technologies coming out, whereas HTML is left out in the cold. MySQL can
now export XML, and companies transfer data as XML or they keep their
product base in XML. (and because of that, they expect an e-commerce
solution knows how to do DB data mapping). I am not suggesting that you go
XML though - I don't know how much extra work that would be.
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> 3. Prettify your html: it'll make it easier to see obvious mistakes (
>> 2 favicons? ). Get rid of this session id that you're passing all
>> over the place - it's not necessary. Use of (more) session variables
>> will make it much cleaner. Standardise on the position of your login
>> box.[/color]
>
> I have:
> <link rel="icon" href="http://www.antlervelve t.co.nz/i/favicon.ico"
> type="image/ico">
> <link rel="SHORTCUT ICON"
> href="http://www.antlervelve t.co.nz/i/favicon.ico">
>
> I have two, because the first works on some browsers and other works on
> other browsers.
>
>[color=green]
>> 4. Visit http://validator.w3.org and
>> http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator[/color]
>
> Done, all my pages validate now.
>[color=green]
>>
>> 5. You could do with a proof reader. I picked up on a number of 'word
>> ,next' grammar errors, and I'm not too sure whether the language is
>> English or American. Always a problem for those of us here in godzone
>> (:[/color]
>
>
> What do you mean with 'word, next' grammar errors
>
> The American / English one is a funny one. True. Not sure what to say
> about that.
>
> Thank you
>[color=green]
>> HTH,
>>
>> Steve[/color]
>
>[/color]

[J.O. Aho]

Re: feedback wanted

Jim Michaels wrote:[color=blue]
> "windandwav es" <winandwaves@co ldmail.com> wrote in message[/color]
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> 2. Upgrade to at least xhtml.[/color]
>> why? what is wrong with html strict?[/color]
>
> because I hear XML and xhtml can somehow work together with all these new
> technologies coming out, whereas HTML is left out in the cold. MySQL can
> now export XML, and companies transfer data as XML or they keep their
> product base in XML. (and because of that, they expect an e-commerce
> solution knows how to do DB data mapping). I am not suggesting that you go
> XML though - I don't know how much extra work that would be.[/color]

Using HTML ensures more web browser support (of course as long as you don't
fall for using MSIE broken HTML).


//Aho