First pre-alpha of content management script available...

**roger** · Jul 17 '05, 03:26 AM

Re: First pre-alpha of content management script available...

Jon Beckett wrote:
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> Hi,
>
> I've been working on a PHP/MySQL content management system for a few
> weeks when I've had a chance, and (following a bit of a mammoth coding
> session tonight) have got to a point where I can upload the scripts...
> there's lots of functionality missing, but there is enough there to
> actually perform "content management".
>
> To check them out visit any of the following URLs
>
> Development Version (live on the web!)
> http://www.pluggedout.com/development/projects/cms
>
> Discussion Forum
> http://www.pluggedout.com/developmen...forum.php?f=14
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Jonathan[/color]

There's plenty of great CMSs out there. You might want to take a look at
them before working so hard...

**Jon Beckett** · Jul 17 '05, 03:26 AM

Re: First pre-alpha of content management script available...

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 03:25:25 GMT, roger <rowest@b.ne> wrote:
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>> I've been working on a PHP/MySQL content management system for a few
>> weeks when I've had a chance, and (following a bit of a mammoth coding
>> session tonight) have got to a point where I can upload the scripts...
>> there's lots of functionality missing, but there is enough there to
>> actually perform "content management".[/color][/color]
[color=blue]
>There's plenty of great CMSs out there. You might want to take a look at
>them before working so hard...[/color]

The reason I wrote it is because several commercial projects I am
working on needed a content management system, and all of the scripts
I looked at seemed either very bloated for what they did, or didn't do
what I wanted - therefore I wrote my own.

I tend to give my scripts away as open source because I take a lot of
benefit from various freely downloadable software on the net - this is
my way of at least giving *something* back.

Regards

Jonathan
Jon Beckett

**Markus Ernst** · Jul 17 '05, 03:26 AM

Re: First pre-alpha of content management script available...

"roger" <rowest@b.ne> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:2fcfa71dd5 bebbe65778b8735 78dee22@news.te ranews.com...[color=blue]
> Jon Beckett wrote:
>
> There's plenty of great CMSs out there. You might want to take a look at
> them before working so hard...[/color]

I am writing my own CMS, too. There are some good reasons for it:

- Most CMSs do not match the state of complexity I like. They are either
much more complex or much simpler.
- Most CMSs do not match the standard of HTML output I like.
- Changing a CMS to match your or your customer's needs requires a deep
understanding of it. Achieving this takes a lot of time and knowledge. It is
just more fun to invest this time and knowledge for writing my own system.
- There is no better way to learn PHP than writing your own CMS, and adding
new features whenever a client asks for them.
- If you sit on your computer with your client and show him/her how to work
with it, he/she will be very impressed of the fact that you wrote it on your
own. Even if an error occurs it looks much better if you say "Oh, the
addition of the mailing list caused an error here - I will fix that
tomorrow" than "Ooops - what happened here? I will have to check the user
forum".

But most of all: It's fun, and it's mine.

Enjoy coding
Markus

**Cameron** · Jul 17 '05, 03:27 AM

Re: First pre-alpha of content management script available...

Markus Ernst wrote:[color=blue]
> "roger" <rowest@b.ne> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:2fcfa71dd5 bebbe65778b8735 78dee22@news.te ranews.com...
>[color=green]
>>Jon Beckett wrote:
>>
>>There's plenty of great CMSs out there. You might want to take a look at
>>them before working so hard...[/color]
>
>
> I am writing my own CMS, too. There are some good reasons for it:
>
> - Most CMSs do not match the state of complexity I like. They are either
> much more complex or much simpler.
> - Most CMSs do not match the standard of HTML output I like.
> - Changing a CMS to match your or your customer's needs requires a deep
> understanding of it. Achieving this takes a lot of time and knowledge. It is
> just more fun to invest this time and knowledge for writing my own system.
> - There is no better way to learn PHP than writing your own CMS, and adding
> new features whenever a client asks for them.
> - If you sit on your computer with your client and show him/her how to work
> with it, he/she will be very impressed of the fact that you wrote it on your
> own. Even if an error occurs it looks much better if you say "Oh, the
> addition of the mailing list caused an error here - I will fix that
> tomorrow" than "Ooops - what happened here? I will have to check the user
> forum".
>
> But most of all: It's fun, and it's mine.
>
> Enjoy coding
> Markus
>
>[/color]

I also am writing a CMS ;) however my CMS wont be available to the
general public for a while after it's "finished", there is a particular
website with which its use is planned, reasons I am writing it are that
if I'm going to be doing lots of websites I can use the one engine as
it's completely modular, I will have something to point possible
employers too and say "Look at!", and just that I love writing PHP, it's
a heavenly language to use!

~Cameron

**Jon Beckett** · Jul 17 '05, 03:27 AM

Re: First pre-alpha of content management script available...

On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:41:57 +0000, Cameron <foo@bar.invali d> wrote:
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>I also am writing a CMS ;)[/color]
<snip>[color=blue]
> and just that I love writing PHP, it's
>a heavenly language to use![/color]

Its great to see people who are so enthusiastic about IT projects
still exist :)

Perhaps I'm not one of a dying species after all!

Jonathan

**Cameron** · Jul 17 '05, 03:27 AM

Re: First pre-alpha of content management script available...

Jon Beckett wrote:[color=blue]
> On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:41:57 +0000, Cameron <foo@bar.invali d> wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>I also am writing a CMS ;)[/color]
>
> <snip>
>[color=green]
>>and just that I love writing PHP, it's
>>a heavenly language to use![/color]
>
>
> Its great to see people who are so enthusiastic about IT projects
> still exist :)
>
> Perhaps I'm not one of a dying species after all!
>
> Jonathan[/color]

I'm also working on a Unix talk system (Talker) at the moment if that
makes you feel even better ;)

When I think of programming or scripting I think of it as a sort of art,
seeing ones creations come together gives such a good feeling.

Just wish I could do it for money, currently very jobless :(

~Cameron

**Geoff Berrow** · Jul 17 '05, 03:27 AM

Re: First pre-alpha of content management script available...

I noticed that Message-ID: <og47305p2854no gosc7vmnkh74pvd f0s6o@4ax.com>
from Jon Beckett contained the following:
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>>I also am writing a CMS ;)[/color]
><snip>[color=green]
>> and just that I love writing PHP, it's
>>a heavenly language to use![/color]
>
>Its great to see people who are so enthusiastic about IT projects
>still exist :)
>
>Perhaps I'm not one of a dying species after all![/color]

No. I wrote a CMS too for exactly the same reasons as others have
mentioned. Like I say, it may be crappy code, but it's /my / crappy
code.

--
Geoff Berrow (put thecat out to email)
It's only Usenet, no one dies.
My opinions, not the committee's, mine.
Simple RFDs http://www.ckdog.co.uk/rfdmaker/

**Cameron** · Jul 17 '05, 03:27 AM

Re: First pre-alpha of content management script available...

Geoff Berrow wrote:[color=blue]
> I noticed that Message-ID: <og47305p2854no gosc7vmnkh74pvd f0s6o@4ax.com>
> from Jon Beckett contained the following:
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>I also am writing a CMS ;)[/color]
>>
>><snip>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>and just that I love writing PHP, it's
>>>a heavenly language to use![/color]
>>
>>Its great to see people who are so enthusiastic about IT projects
>>still exist :)
>>
>>Perhaps I'm not one of a dying species after all![/color]
>
>
> No. I wrote a CMS too for exactly the same reasons as others have
> mentioned. Like I say, it may be crappy code, but it's /my / crappy
> code.
>[/color]

I'll drink to that! *Gets a coffee for himself and his fellow geeks* ;)

~Cameron

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