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    Why does Perl use more resource than Php?

    A hosting service lungcapage has banned yabb, because it takes too much
    CPU/memory, but phpBB is fine. Is that perl/php or the script itself? why
    perl sucks more resource of a server than php? i thought only mod-perl will
    suck not regular perl.

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  • M

    #2
    Re: Why does Perl use more resource than Php?


    "I Report, You Decide" <test@test.co m> wrote in message
    news:Ln4Gb.2325 51$Ec1.8219387@ bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldn et.att.net...[color=blue]
    > A hosting service lungcapage has banned yabb, because it takes too much
    > CPU/memory, but phpBB is fine. Is that perl/php or the script itself?[/color]

    yabb != perl. Did the hosting service "ban" perl? That should answer your
    question.


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    • ctcgag@hotmail.com

      #3
      Re: Why does Perl use more resource than Php?

      "I Report, You Decide" <test@test.co m> wrote:[color=blue]
      > A hosting service lungcapage has banned yabb, because it takes too much
      > CPU/memory, but phpBB is fine. Is that perl/php or the script itself? why
      > perl sucks more resource of a server than php? i thought only mod-perl
      > will suck not regular perl.[/color]

      use Blatant::Liar;
      print "yabb was so much better that many more people were using it\n";
      print "so it consumed lots of resources\n";
      __END__

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      • Gregory Toomey

        #4
        Re: Why does Perl use more resource than Php?

        It was a dark and stormy night, and I Report, You Decide managed to scribble:
        [color=blue]
        > A hosting service lungcapage has banned yabb, because it takes too much
        > CPU/memory, but phpBB is fine. Is that perl/php or the script itself? why
        > perl sucks more resource of a server than php? i thought only mod-perl
        > will suck not regular perl.
        >[/color]

        Do like I do - run user mode linux with root access for about the same price as a virtual ISP. Run whatever you like.

        See http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/uses.html for a list of UML ISPs.

        gtoomey

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        • I Report, You Decide

          #5
          Re: Why does Perl use more resource than Php?

          > "I Report, You Decide" <test@test.co m> wrote in message[color=blue]
          > news:Ln4Gb.2325 51$Ec1.8219387@ bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldn et.att.net...[color=green]
          > > A hosting service lungcapage has banned yabb, because it takes too much
          > > CPU/memory, but phpBB is fine. Is that perl/php or the script itself?[/color]
          >
          > yabb != perl. Did the hosting service "ban" perl? That should answer[/color]
          your[color=blue]
          > question.
          >
          >[/color]

          the hosting corp does not bann perl, but banns yabb, because saying it takes
          TOO MUCH CPU/memory. i just wnat to know if the yabb problme is a perl
          problem or the problme of the yabb script only


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          • James Willmore

            #6
            Re: Why does Perl use more resource than Php?

            On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 09:15:47 GMT
            "I Report, You Decide" <test@test.co m> wrote:
            [color=blue][color=green]
            > > "I Report, You Decide" <test@test.co m> wrote in message
            > > news:Ln4Gb.2325 51$Ec1.8219387@ bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldn et.att.net.
            > > ..[color=darkred]
            > > > A hosting service lungcapage has banned yabb, because it takes
            > > > too much CPU/memory, but phpBB is fine. Is that perl/php or the
            > > > script itself?[/color]
            > >
            > > yabb != perl. Did the hosting service "ban" perl? That should
            > > answer[/color]
            > your[color=green]
            > > question.
            > >
            > >[/color]
            >
            > the hosting corp does not bann perl, but banns yabb, because saying
            > it takes TOO MUCH CPU/memory. i just wnat to know if the yabb
            > problme is a perl problem or the problme of the yabb script only[/color]

            This all sounds like yabb problem :-)

            Seriously .... if you want to find out where the "problems" are with
            yabb, then run some benchmarks and find out. You could, if using a
            *NIX system, use the 'time' command to see which is using more cpu
            time. For a strictly Perl look at the situation, check out the
            various Devel modules to aid in finding out where yabb "bottleneck s"
            are.

            In general, this really isn't a Perl issue - it's one you're having
            with your host and is based upon what *they* have told you. Find out
            for yourself and then decide if *they* are right :-)

            HTH

            --
            Jim

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            released under the GPL. http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.txt
            for more information.

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            Bugs, pl. n.: Small living things that small living boys throw
            on small living girls.

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            • Dave Richards

              #7
              Re: Why does Perl use more resource than Php?

              On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 23:40:27 +0000, I Report, You Decide wrote:
              [color=blue]
              > A hosting service lungcapage has banned yabb, because it takes too much
              > CPU/memory, but phpBB is fine. Is that perl/php or the script itself? why
              > perl sucks more resource of a server than php? i thought only mod-perl will
              > suck not regular perl.[/color]

              I think it depends on whether you're running mod-perl/mod-python or CGI
              versions. mod-* must have the advantage over CGIs.

              I imagine you will find that yabb the application simply needs a lot more
              resources than phpBB. In particular, IIRC, yabb uses flat files to store
              the forums, whereas phpBB uses MySQL. That can place a huge strain on the
              server.

              Dave

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              • Keith Bowes

                #8
                Re: Why does Perl use more resource than Php?

                I Report, You Decide wrote:[color=blue]
                > A hosting service lungcapage has banned yabb, because it takes too much
                > CPU/memory, but phpBB is fine. Is that perl/php or the script itself? why
                > perl sucks more resource of a server than php? i thought only mod-perl will
                > suck not regular perl.
                >[/color]

                That's strange. I would have thought that Perl would be more efficient,
                due to PHP being easier and having more modules that are included
                without invocation. But I guess it's possible that hard to read doesn't
                necessarily mean fast to run.

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                • Phil Roberts

                  #9
                  Re: Why does Perl use more resource than Php?

                  With total disregard for any kind of safety measures "I Report,
                  You Decide" <test@test.co m> leapt forth and uttered:
                  [color=blue]
                  > A hosting service lungcapage has banned yabb, because it takes
                  > too much CPU/memory, but phpBB is fine. Is that perl/php or the
                  > script itself? why perl sucks more resource of a server than
                  > php? i thought only mod-perl will suck not regular perl.
                  >[/color]

                  Perl is usually run as a CGI module which will consume more server
                  RAM than a scripting interpreter which is running as part of the
                  server process (as PHP almost always is). When PHP is run as a CGI
                  it suffers from pretty much the exact same overhead problem.

                  Using files for storage will always be more server-intensive than a
                  proper DB server though. Regardless of the language.

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                  • Stewart Campbell CS2002

                    #10
                    Re: Why does Perl use more resource than Php?

                    I Report, You Decide wrote:[color=blue]
                    > A hosting service lungcapage has banned yabb, because it takes too much
                    > CPU/memory, but phpBB is fine. Is that perl/php or the script itself? why
                    > perl sucks more resource of a server than php? i thought only mod-perl will
                    > suck not regular perl.
                    >[/color]

                    The major difference there is YABB is flat file, phpBB uses a database.

                    YABB is older generation software, YABBSe and now SMF replace that, in
                    PHP with a database backend. Many message boards which use flat file
                    are banned on a large number of hosts, including UBB, YABB, etc.

                    Anything with a database backend, is (normaly) going to be much quicker
                    and less resource intensive than a flat file version.

                    Stewart

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