Recruiting volunteers for MVC framework

[Peter Albertsson]

Hi,

I'm looking for volunteers that wish to help out with an open source
project.

It is a MVC Web Application Framework that aims to be fit for building
larger web sites. It natively supports i18n, session management, user
management, authentication, authorization, tracking and transactions. It can
be deployed on a web farm.

My playground for this framework is here: http://palbertsson.dyndns.org/
where you will also find the documentation for it.

It can be checked out with subversion from
https://palbertsson.dyndns.org/svn/mm/trunk/ (my apologies for the bad SSL
certificate).

If you are interested, please drop me an e-mail.

Looking forward to hear from you!

Best Regards,

Peter Albertsson

[Thomas Gagne]

Re: Recruiting volunteers for MVC framework

What's wrong with <http://www.phpmvc.net/index.php>? What doesn't it do
that your's will?

[Peter Albertsson]

Re: Recruiting volunteers for MVC framework

I haven't looked at it before, so I don't really know what is wrong with
that framework. Maybe you could enlighten me?

There is some frameworks out there, and each one probably have different
strengths. I haven't deployed any of them.

I never planned to write a framework, it came into existence from me writing
other applications and reusing stuff I had already done. Eventually it
became a project of its own, and the framework I have now is the third
version and was developed from bottom up with the intention to be a
framework.

If you read the first post, it says what my framework does and where you
will find the documentation for it, and then you can find out for yourself
if it does something that php.MVC doesn't do.

Maybe I should call my framework Yet Another Framework? ;)

Regards,

Peter

"Thomas Gagne" <tgagne@wide-open-west.com> wrote in message
news:OPydnQWK7q ItCqLfRVn-tQ@wideopenwest .com...[color=blue]
> What's wrong with <http://www.phpmvc.net/index.php>? What doesn't it do
> that your's will?[/color]

[Malcolm Dew-Jones]

Re: Recruiting volunteers for MVC framework

Peter Albertsson (Peter.ANTISPAM .Albertsson@ant ispOm.comhem.se ) wrote:

: If you read the first post, it says what my framework does and where you
: will find the documentation for it, and then you can find out for yourself
: if it does something that php.MVC doesn't do.

If you want anyone to help build (or use) your framework then you will
have to do a better sales job than that.

: Maybe I should call my framework Yet Another Framework? ;)

Yet another programmer calling yet another framework yet another
framework.

Please don't call it that.



--

This space not for rent.

[Peter Albertsson]

Re: Recruiting volunteers for MVC framework

"Malcolm Dew-Jones" <yf110@vtn1.vic toria.tc.ca> wrote in message
news:42405b2d@n ews.victoria.tc .ca...[color=blue]
> Peter Albertsson (Peter.ANTISPAM .Albertsson@ant ispOm.comhem.se ) wrote:
>
> : If you read the first post, it says what my framework does and where you
> : will find the documentation for it, and then you can find out for
> yourself
> : if it does something that php.MVC doesn't do.
>
> If you want anyone to help build (or use) your framework then you will
> have to do a better sales job than that.
>
> : Maybe I should call my framework Yet Another Framework? ;)
>
> Yet another programmer calling yet another framework yet another
> framework.
>
> Please don't call it that.
>
>
>
> --
>
> This space not for rent.[/color]

True, I shouldn't have replied like that to this news group, but I couldn't
help myself with the sarcasm I sensed in his reply.

Yet Another Framework was a joke on Yet Another Setup Tool.

Best Regards.

Peter

[Peter Albertsson]

Re: Recruiting volunteers for MVC framework

"Thomas Gagne" <tgagne@wide-open-west.com> wrote in message
news:OPydnQWK7q ItCqLfRVn-tQ@wideopenwest .com...[color=blue]
> What's wrong with <http://www.phpmvc.net/index.php>? What doesn't it do
> that your's will?[/color]

My apologies for my first reply; I sensed some sarcasm that might not have
been there.

I don't know what php.MVC does and doesn't do, but after having a look at
that web site I am sure that it's an excellent framework.

My framework will not be a pure framework, but will also have some features
that one expects to find in a CMS such as user management, authentication
and authorization. The framework itself will only implement this in its
simplest form, and leave the rest up to the application programmers. This
will allow wrappers to be built for other applications (eg Serendipity,
phpBB) and allow these applications to share the same users as your other
applications built upon the framework. One can also imagine Proxy classes
for other kind of messaging between applications, but this is of course
outside the scope of what the framework does.

The framework will also come with the appropriate tools to handle the
forementioned user management, authentication and authorization but also
highly sofisticated tools for I18n of applications built upon the framework.
One of which is a translation module for strings that are used in
applications and it will support Enchant (a spelling lib), (optional)
WYSIWYG for HTML strings, and layering of strings in different locales (eg
en_GB can sit over en_US).

The database layer (the M in MVC) uses MySQL's InnoDB tables and the
frameworks API allows the application programmers to do intent locking. It
will then be up to the application programmers to write their own
transactions, no framework can do that because of the nature of
transactions.

Since a framework is very much about reusability, the framework (or it
tools) also makes use of some classes from PEAR and some extensions from
PECL. The database abstraction layer is powered by ADODB, which I must say
was a revolution for me when I ran into it a few years ago.

Best Regards,

Peter Albertsson

[Thomas Gagne]

Re: Recruiting volunteers for MVC framework

I didn't mean to be disrespectful. I just happen to be shopping around
for PHP frameworks when I read yours and assumed you would have looked
around before starting one, but as you said, your's developed on its own.

Peter Albertsson wrote:[color=blue]
> I haven't looked at it before, so I don't really know what is wrong with
> that framework. Maybe you could enlighten me?
>
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