Oracle DBA: Where do I start?

[Zack Bethem]

Sorry for the repeating theme, but I was hoping for some guidance. I'm
currently a Siebel consultant/integrator. I've done my time
administering envionments and running Oracle SQL, PL/SQL, and SQL*Loader
jobs.

In an effort to stop travelling and to evolve into a steady career, I
want to pursue becoming a DBA role. The problem is common, however.
I was wondering if you could give me some pointers on what I should or
shouldn't do.

* Investing to become an OCP DBA is going to be a hefty out-of-pocket
expense, so I'm not sure it's the best way to go. Lots of money for an
uncertain return.

* Spending time dorking on a linux box would give one experience, but
it's not marketable when it comes time for interviews.

I would like to know what the group thinks. Mind the 'no-spam' in the
email if replying directly to me.. thanks.

Zack

[sybrandb@yahoo.com]

Re: Oracle DBA: Where do I start?

Zack Bethem <zbethem@NO-SPAMspeakeasy.n etwrote in message news:<gZidnZxcl 68MPfuiRVn-ig@speakeasy.ne t>...

Sorry for the repeating theme, but I was hoping for some guidance. I'm
currently a Siebel consultant/integrator. I've done my time
administering envionments and running Oracle SQL, PL/SQL, and SQL*Loader
jobs.
>

Your apologies are insincere. You could just have searched Google and
would have gotten more than enough 'guidance'

Sybrand Bakker
Senior Oracle DBA

[Zack Bethem]

Re: Oracle DBA: Where do I start?

sybrandb@yahoo. com wrote:

Zack Bethem <zbethem@NO-SPAMspeakeasy.n etwrote in message news:<gZidnZxcl 68MPfuiRVn-ig@speakeasy.ne t>...
>

>>Sorry for the repeating theme, but I was hoping for some guidance. I'm
>>currently a Siebel consultant/integrator. I've done my time
>>administeri ng envionments and running Oracle SQL, PL/SQL, and SQL*Loader
>>jobs.
>>

>
Your apologies are insincere. You could just have searched Google and
would have gotten more than enough 'guidance'
>
Sybrand Bakker
Senior Oracle DBA

Did that.. but thanks for the warm welcome. I guess we both wasted more
than enough time that we'll never get back in our life. :-P

[Ryan Gaffuri]

Re: Oracle DBA: Where do I start?

Zack Bethem <zbethem@NO-SPAMspeakeasy.n etwrote in message news:<Fc-dncCj55AosfSiRV n-gA@speakeasy.ne t>...

sybrandb@yahoo. com wrote:

Zack Bethem <zbethem@NO-SPAMspeakeasy.n etwrote in message news:<gZidnZxcl 68MPfuiRVn-ig@speakeasy.ne t>...

>Sorry for the repeating theme, but I was hoping for some guidance. I'm
>currently a Siebel consultant/integrator. I've done my time
>administerin g envionments and running Oracle SQL, PL/SQL, and SQL*Loader
>jobs.
>

Your apologies are insincere. You could just have searched Google and
would have gotten more than enough 'guidance'

Sybrand Bakker
Senior Oracle DBA

Did that.. but thanks for the warm welcome. I guess we both wasted more
than enough time that we'll never get back in our life. :-P

you would be considered entry level and there are no entry level DBA
jobs. There are no entry level developer jobs. Economy is bad. Market
is bad. if you have a top secret security clearance, you have a shot.
short of that dont invest any money in this.

OCP helps landing a job if you have experience. helps get raises too.
If you dont have experience its useless. dont fall for any of the
scams trying to get you to take people's training. there are no jobs
out there for entry level or 'junior' DBAs

its easy to test. take your current skill set. put a differnt name on
your resume and put what you would consider to be a 'career change'
resume on the web and state you are certified. see what responses you
get. only responses will be people not reading your resume, actually
looking for Seibel, or trying to use you to find someone else.

[Michael Willer]

Re: Oracle DBA: Where do I start?

Zack Bethem wrote:

Sorry for the repeating theme, but I was hoping for some guidance. I'm
currently a Siebel consultant/integrator. I've done my time
administering envionments and running Oracle SQL, PL/SQL, and SQL*Loader
jobs.
>
In an effort to stop travelling and to evolve into a steady career, I
want to pursue becoming a DBA role. The problem is common, however.
I was wondering if you could give me some pointers on what I should or
shouldn't do.
>
* Investing to become an OCP DBA is going to be a hefty out-of-pocket
expense, so I'm not sure it's the best way to go. Lots of money for an
uncertain return.
>
* Spending time dorking on a linux box would give one experience, but
it's not marketable when it comes time for interviews.
>
I would like to know what the group thinks. Mind the 'no-spam' in the
email if replying directly to me.. thanks.
>
Zack
>

Zack,

First goto Oracle Technet and download yourself a database:

http://technet.oracle.com/software/products/oracle9i/content.html

Same place you can download a full documentation set.

Then using something like this as a guide:

http://www.orafaq.com/faqdbacv.htm

And start learning!

First manual to read is "Database Concepts" it's a bit dry, but though
it out - it's worth is.

And .... who knows once you have the knowledge, the job-market might
have changed.

Good luck.

Michael Willer

[michael ngong]

Re: Oracle DBA: Where do I start?

Michael Willer <no.spam@please .comwrote in message news:<3f6b2608$ 0$13164$edfadb0 f@dread15.news. tele.dk>...

Zack Bethem wrote:
>

Sorry for the repeating theme, but I was hoping for some guidance. I'm
currently a Siebel consultant/integrator. I've done my time
administering envionments and running Oracle SQL, PL/SQL, and SQL*Loader
jobs.

In an effort to stop travelling and to evolve into a steady career, I
want to pursue becoming a DBA role. The problem is common, however.
I was wondering if you could give me some pointers on what I should or
shouldn't do.

* Investing to become an OCP DBA is going to be a hefty out-of-pocket
expense, so I'm not sure it's the best way to go. Lots of money for an
uncertain return.

* Spending time dorking on a linux box would give one experience, but
it's not marketable when it comes time for interviews.

I would like to know what the group thinks. Mind the 'no-spam' in the
email if replying directly to me.. thanks.

Zack

Zack,
>

Zack
....
This is contigent on what you said ....

Depending on what you are ready to give up and how far you are ready
to stretch to find a job there could be one out there for you.
Your consulting experience could be used to leverage your job
search.
It may be hard to say that there are NO openings for junior DBA,s.
With your siebel experience and some PL/SQL you could find a way in
and why not request from the start your interest in assisting the dba
from where you can grow .
In the meantime invest your time in Oracle as suggested earlier on in
the thread while searching for a spot to squeeze in.
(This is exquisitely expressed in the Pidgin language ["chuk
head"]Get your head inside)

Michael Tubuo Ngong