XML Namspaces

[Chase Preuninger]

What did I do wrong?

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<rfs:filesyst em xmlns:rfs="http ://www.somewebpage .com/rfs"/>
<rfs:root>
<rfs:attr key="name" value="c:\"/>
<rfs:folder>
<rfs:attr key="name" value="Users"/>
<rfs:file>
<rfs:attr key="name" value="pic.jpg"/>
<rfs:attr key="size" value="5675675"/>
<rfs:attr key="lastmod" value="53595735 79797693"/>
</rfs:file>
<rfs:folder>
<rfs:attr key="name" value="Chase"/>
<rfs:attr key="compressed " value="true"/>
<rfs:file>
<rfs:attr key="name" value="config.s ys"/>
<rfs:attr key="size" value="5678"/>
<rfs:attr key="execute" value="false"/>
</rfs:file>
</rfs:folder>
</rfs:folder>
</rfs:root>
</rfs:filesystem>

[Chase Preuninger]

Re: XML Namspaces

also, sorry I spelled namespaces wrong

[David Carlisle]

Re: XML Namspaces

Chase Preuninger wrote:

What did I do wrong?
>
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<rfs:filesyst em xmlns:rfs="http ://www.somewebpage .com/rfs"/>

the above is an empty element ending with /so the XML file
ends there, and any following XML elements are in error.
presumably you wanted there not />

David

<rfs:root>
<rfs:attr key="name" value="c:\"/>
<rfs:folder>
<rfs:attr key="name" value="Users"/>
<rfs:file>
<rfs:attr key="name" value="pic.jpg"/>
<rfs:attr key="size" value="5675675"/>
<rfs:attr key="lastmod" value="53595735 79797693"/>
</rfs:file>
<rfs:folder>
<rfs:attr key="name" value="Chase"/>
<rfs:attr key="compressed " value="true"/>
<rfs:file>
<rfs:attr key="name" value="config.s ys"/>
<rfs:attr key="size" value="5678"/>
<rfs:attr key="execute" value="false"/>
</rfs:file>
</rfs:folder>
</rfs:folder>
</rfs:root>
</rfs:filesystem>

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[Chase Preuninger]

Re: XML Namspaces

I also don't get what the purpose of the xmlns is

[Joseph J. Kesselman]

Re: XML Namspaces

Chase Preuninger wrote:

I also don't get what the purpose of the xmlns is

Sounds like you need a basic education in what XML Namespaces are.
Reading a good modern XML tutorial might be worthwhile at this point. (I
usually point folks to the articles and tutorials at
http://www.ibm.com/xml, but I admit I'm biased.)

For info specifically about XML Namespaces, see James Clark's description at

http://www.jclark.com/xml/xmlns.htm

or the official (but somewhat harder to read) definition at

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml-names/

[Chase Preuninger]

Re: XML Namspaces

I have I big book on XML, I just never really got the entire thing
about the xmlns.

[Joseph J. Kesselman]

Re: XML Namspaces

Chase Preuninger wrote:

I have I big book on XML, I just never really got the entire thing
about the xmlns.

Namespaces are a way of managing XML-based grammars so they can be
reliably recognized by applications, and if necessary intermixed in a
single document. The xmlns attributes are used to bind prefixes (which
are just "syntactic sugar" shorthand) to the namespace names (strings
formatted as absolute URI references). Those bindings are scoped, so the
same prefix may mean different URIs in different parts of the program.
It's also possible to set up a default namespace for elements in one of
those parts, just to save a bit of typing. (This sometimes improves
readabilty, sometimes makes it worse.)

The namespace names are formatted as URI references because "we already
know how to manage those so they won't conflict with each other." And
that's all there is to that. The namespace name has no other built-in
meaning beyond being the name for this namespace. There is no guarantee
that there is anything meaningful behind that URI if you try to
dereference it, or what you might find there if anything is present.
Basically, you shouldn't be trying. (The Semantic Web folks said they
would come up with a standard for what a namespace URI might point to. I
haven't heard any concrete proposals, and it's been several years. Don't
hold your breath.)

So namespaces are just an alternative to having to always type a
<gawdaful_long_ name_that_you_h ope_nobody_else _used/>. That really is all
there is to them.


Most modern XML standards assume you're working with namespaced
documents. XML Schema, XPath, XSLT, the Semantic Web stuff, XHTML,
XQuery, and so on all assume namespaces are a prerequisite.

Read some tutorials and/or re-read that section of the book -- or find
another document which explains this better.

[Chase Preuninger]

Re: XML Namspaces

Does the xmlns attribute need to have a URI or could it just contain
anything?

[Joseph J. Kesselman]

Re: XML Namspaces

Chase Preuninger wrote:

Does the xmlns attribute need to have a URI or could it just contain
anything?

A "namespace name" must conform to the syntax of an Absolute URI
Refrence -- an absolute URI possibly followed by a fragment identifier.

If you really mean the xmlns attribute (xmlns=, as opposed to
xmlns:foo=), that's the default namespace declaration. Same restriction
on its value.