FAQ Topic - What is the document object model? (2008-10-23)

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FAQ Topic - What is the document object model?
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This is the collection of objects provided by each browser.
Basically, any object in the window hierarchy is part of the
DOM. This means that ` document.writel n() `,
for example, is not an
ECMAScript method but is, in fact, a method provided by the DOM.
The DOM has been standardised by the World Wide Web Consortium
(W3C); however, like all W3C standards, browser support is not
yet complete. Most cross-browser coding problems come from
slightly different implementations of the DOM in the different browsers.

http://jibbering.com/faq/index.html#onlineResources

http://www.w3.org/DOM/faq.html

http://www.w3.org/DOM/

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[Dr J R Stockton]

Re: FAQ Topic - What is the document object model? (2008-10-23)

In comp.lang.javas cript message <48ffb077$0$902 64$14726298@new s.sunsite.
dk>, Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:00:02, FAQ server <javascript@dot internet.be>
posted.

FAQ <http://jibbering.com/faq/index.htmlis full of links of the form
href='index.htm l#jScript'

That means that a saved copy of the FAQ has links which refer to
index.html in the directory in which it has been saved.

If those "index.html " were removed throughout, those links would refer
to the appropriate place in the saved FAQ.

The link href="http://www.jibbering.c om/faq/index.html" should of
course remain.

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[dhtml]

Re: FAQ Topic - What is the document object model? (2008-10-23)

Dr J R Stockton wrote:

In comp.lang.javas cript message <48ffb077$0$902 64$14726298@new s.sunsite.
dk>, Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:00:02, FAQ server <javascript@dot internet.be>
posted.
>
FAQ <http://jibbering.com/faq/index.htmlis full of links of the form
href='index.htm l#jScript'
>

And the "index.html " can be safely removed. And it will work in IE6.

That means that a saved copy of the FAQ has links which refer to
index.html in the directory in which it has been saved.
>
If those "index.html " were removed throughout, those links would refer
to the appropriate place in the saved FAQ.
>

Yep.

The link href="http://www.jibbering.c om/faq/index.html" should of
course remain.
>

Yep.

Will apply changes.

Garrett

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[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

Re: FAQ Topic - What is the document object model? (2008-10-23)

Dr J R Stockton wrote:

The link href="http://www.jibbering.c om/faq/index.html" should of
course remain.

There is no good reason why. In fact, the "index.html " should be removed
according to W3C recommendations . The default document that is index.html
does not need to be and should not be explicitly referred to (e.g. in case
the technology behind it changes).

Where necessary, server-side redirection should be set up to keep existing
references to the FAQ working while promoting a new URI concept that
provides ways of referencing the FAQ and FAQ sections that are easier to
remember. Consider, for example, <http://jibbering.com/faq/notes/instead
of <http://jibbering.com/faq/faq_notes.html> .


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[dhtml]

Re: FAQ Topic - What is the document object model? (2008-10-23)

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

Dr J R Stockton wrote:

>The link href="http://www.jibbering.c om/faq/index.html" should of
>course remain.

>
There is no good reason why. In fact, the "index.html " should be removed
according to W3C recommendations . The default document that is index.html
does not need to be and should not be explicitly referred to (e.g. in case
the technology behind it changes).
>
Where necessary, server-side redirection should be set up to keep existing
references to the FAQ working while promoting a new URI concept that
provides ways of referencing the FAQ and FAQ sections that are easier to
remember. Consider, for example, <http://jibbering.com/faq/notes/instead
of <http://jibbering.com/faq/faq_notes.html> .

404

>
>

You probably meant to link to:

http://www.jibbering.com/faq/faq_notes/faq_notes.html

The URI is not very memorable.

If any sort of URL rewriting were to be used, the documents' links
(anchors, css, et c) would all need full root <a href="cookies.h tml"so
to avoid 404.

PointedEars

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[Dr J R Stockton]

Re: FAQ Topic - What is the document object model? (2008-10-23)

In comp.lang.javas cript message <490210E4.60600 06@PointedEars. de>, Fri,
24 Oct 2008 20:16:04, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@we b.de>
posted:

>Dr J R Stockton wrote:

>The link href="http://www.jibbering.c om/faq/index.html" should of
>course remain.

>
>There is no good reason why.

As is common, you have failed to understand the point, SpitzenOhren.

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[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

Re: FAQ Topic - What is the document object model? (2008-10-23)

dhtml wrote:

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

>Dr J R Stockton wrote:

>>The link href="http://www.jibbering.c om/faq/index.html" should of
>>course remain.

>There is no good reason why. In fact, the "index.html " should be removed
>according to W3C recommendations . The default document that is index.html
>does not need to be and should not be explicitly referred to (e.g. in case
>the technology behind it changes).
>>
>Where necessary, server-side redirection should be set up to keep existing
>references to the FAQ working while promoting a new URI concept that
>provides ways of referencing the FAQ and FAQ sections that are easier to
>remember. Consider, for example, <http://jibbering.com/faq/notes/instead
>of <http://jibbering.com/faq/faq_notes.html> .

>
404

Right, the madness of it is even worse:

<http://jibbering.com/faq/faq_notes/faq_notes.html>

You probably meant to link to:
http://www.jibbering.com/faq/faq_notes/faq_notes.html

Right, the madness goes even further.

The URI is not very memorable.

One of my points exactly.

If any sort of URL rewriting were to be used, the documents' links
(anchors, css, et c) would all need full root <a href="cookies.h tml"so
to avoid 404.

I am talking about redirection, not rewrite; redirection would by itself not
need any changes in the source code at all (although once established, it
would be wise to use the new URIs instead).


PointedEars
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who don't know javascript. People who don't know javascript are not
the best source of advice on designing systems that use javascript.
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[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

Re: FAQ Topic - What is the document object model? (2008-10-23)

Dr J R Stockton wrote:

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn posted:

>Dr J R Stockton wrote:

>>The link href="http://www.jibbering.c om/faq/index.html" should of
>>course remain.

>There is no good reason why.

>
As is common, you have failed to understand the point, SpitzenOhren.

Maybe you should have found a better wording then, Doc. For the statement
as it is, is a bad recommendation.


PointedEars
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who don't know javascript. People who don't know javascript are not
the best source of advice on designing systems that use javascript.
-- Richard Cornford, cljs, <f806at$ail$1$8 300dec7@news.de mon.co.uk>

[dhtml]

Re: FAQ Topic - What is the document object model? (2008-10-23)

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

dhtml wrote:

>Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:

>>Dr J R Stockton wrote:
>>>The link href="http://www.jibbering.c om/faq/index.html" should of
>>>course remain.
>>There is no good reason why. In fact, the "index.html " should be removed
>>according to W3C recommendations . The default document that is index.html
>>does not need to be and should not be explicitly referred to (e.g. in case
>>the technology behind it changes).
>>>

Yeah, I don't see why index.html should be there either.

>
I am talking about redirection, not rewrite; redirection would by itself not
need any changes in the source code at all (although once established, it
would be wise to use the new URIs

It might be better to have /faq/notes/ and have the current directory
redirect to that. I don't have access over the faq_notes directory.


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