Anchor with TYPE attribute

[Andreas Prilop]

Is there any *practical* use of writing, say,

<a href="book.pdf" type="applicati on/pdf">

with a TYPE attribute?

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[Joost Diepenmaat]

Re: Anchor with TYPE attribute

Andreas Prilop <prilop4321@tra shmail.netwrite s:

Is there any *practical* use of writing, say,
>
<a href="book.pdf" type="applicati on/pdf">
>
with a TYPE attribute?

If you do, you can use CSS to mark up pdf links differently from other
links.

a[type=applicatio n/pdf] {
before: url("pdf-image.png");
}

For instance.

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[Jukka K. Korpela]

Re: Anchor with TYPE attribute

Andreas Prilop wrote:

Is there any *practical* use of writing, say,
>
<a href="book.pdf" type="applicati on/pdf">
>
with a TYPE attribute?

Not much, but in addition to potential use in styling (with attribute
selectors, not supported by IE 6), they might be used for site management
e.g. to find all links to PDF files. Of course this requires software that
pays attention to such attributes.

Moreover, on Firefox and relatives, if the user right-clicks on a link and
selects "Properties ", he will see information about the media type.

So not much, really.

Yucca

[Sander Tekelenburg]

Re: Anchor with TYPE attribute

In article
<Pine.GSO.4.63. 0808251633210.2 568@s5b004.rrzn .uni-hannover.de>,
Andreas Prilop <prilop4321@tra shmail.netwrote :

Is there any *practical* use of writing, say,
>
<a href="book.pdf" type="applicati on/pdf">
>
with a TYPE attribute?

Yes: <http://www.euronet.nl/~tekelenb/WWW/userfriendlierh yperlinks/>.

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[John Hosking]

Re: Anchor with TYPE attribute

Sander Tekelenburg wrote:

In article
<Pine.GSO.4.63. 0808251633210.2 568@s5b004.rrzn .uni-hannover.de>,
Andreas Prilop <prilop4321@tra shmail.netwrote :
>

>Is there any *practical* use of writing, say,
>>
> <a href="book.pdf" type="applicati on/pdf">
>>
>with a TYPE attribute?

>
Yes: <http://www.euronet.nl/~tekelenb/WWW/userfriendlierh yperlinks/>.

Interesting page, Sander.

I realize the page is a bit old and so you may not want to change it,
but since it *is* on the WWW (and you're pointing to it in 2008), maybe
you'd like to consider a few of my remarks, respectfully submitted:

1. It seems like a cool idea to me for you to point to a list of MIME
types. I guess this would be the place:
<http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/>. Or maybe there's a
better list somewhere. (Assuming "MIME types" is really the appropriate
term. I see e.g. <http://en.wikipedia.or g/wiki/Internet_media_ type>.)

2. I believe "dependant" should be spelled "dependent" . See
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_18...dependant.html .

3. The word "known" is missing an "n". Search for "kown".

I'm still poking around the site and, while I see it's a bit old, it
looks interesting. (BTW, I wish more Web authors would so
conscientiously date their publishings.)

HAND.


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[Ben C]

Re: Anchor with TYPE attribute

On 2008-08-26, John Hosking <John@DELETE.Ho sking.name.INVA LIDwrote:

Sander Tekelenburg wrote:

[...]

2. I believe "dependant" should be spelled "dependent" . See
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_18...dependant.html .

No, dependant is acceptable, as probably a UK variant since it is more
like French.

It's a bit like "advertize" which was being quibbled over the other
day-- in UK English "advertise" is also acceptable.

Many of those optional variant UK spellings are basically French.
"dependent" and "advertize" are closer to the original Latin and Greek
respectively.

[Guy Macon]

Re: Anchor with TYPE attribute




Ben C wrote:

>probably a UK variant

>variant UK spellings

I tend to think of the UK spelling as being the standard, and the
US as being the variant -- and I was born and raised in the USA.


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[Ben C]

Re: Anchor with TYPE attribute

On 2008-08-26, Guy Macon <httpwrote:

>
>
>
Ben C wrote:
>

>>probably a UK variant

>

>>variant UK spellings

>
I tend to think of the UK spelling as being the standard, and the
US as being the variant -- and I was born and raised in the USA.

I say "variant" UK spellings because dependent and advertize are both
also correct in UK English and in my opinion preferred.

[Andy Dingley]

Re: Anchor with TYPE attribute

On 26 Aug, 15:07, Guy Macon <http://www.GuyMacon.co m/wrote:

I tend to think of the UK spelling as being the standard, and the
US as being the variant -- and I was born and raised in the USA.

There are (largely) two sorts of divergent spellings:
* 17th century spellings that the US has preserved and the UK has
shifted.
* Webster's fiddling 8-(

[Steve Swift]

Re: Anchor with TYPE attribute

Guy Macon wrote:

I tend to think of the UK spelling as being the standard, and the
US as being the variant -- and I was born and raised in the USA.

In most cases where US and UK usage of English differs, the US version
is often (perhaps usually) closer to the original. I suspect this is
because the US was more isolated than the UK for much of its history.

British English has always been strongly influenced by our European
neighbours, and in the past, colonies.

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[Harlan Messinger]

Re: Anchor with TYPE attribute

Ben C wrote:

On 2008-08-26, John Hosking <John@DELETE.Ho sking.name.INVA LIDwrote:

>Sander Tekelenburg wrote:

[...]

>2. I believe "dependant" should be spelled "dependent" . See
>http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_18...dependant.html .

>
No, dependant is acceptable, as probably a UK variant since it is more
like French.

The OED distinguishes between the noun, "dependant, dependent" and the
adjective, "dependent" .

It's a bit like "advertize" which was being quibbled over the other
day-- in UK English "advertise" is also acceptable.

In UK English and in US English only "advertise" is standard. OED only
shows "advertize" as an "also-found-as" in the "advertise" article, in
the same manner as "aduertyse" is given as one. Merriam-Webster
unabridged says "advertize" is a variant spelling.

>
Many of those optional variant UK spellings are basically French.
"dependent" and "advertize" are closer to the original Latin and Greek
respectively.

The "-ise" in "advertise" came from the French infix "-iss-" [is] found
in some -ir verbs (likewise, "choisir", "finir"), unlike most English
"-ize/-ise" suffixes, at least a few of which came from the French verb
ending "-iser" [ize], and have the Greek origin of which you wrote.

[Blinky the Shark]

Re: Anchor with TYPE attribute

Ben C wrote:

On 2008-08-26, John Hosking <John@DELETE.Ho sking.name.INVA LIDwrote:

>Sander Tekelenburg wrote:

[...]

>2. I believe "dependant" should be spelled "dependent" . See
>http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_18...dependant.html .

>
No, dependant is acceptable, as probably a UK variant since it is more
like French.

I'm used to the variations exemplified by "color"/"colour" and
"advertise"/"advertize" , but I'm not used to "-ent"/"-ant" variations.
Can you provide some other examples of that?


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[Ben C]

Re: Anchor with TYPE attribute

On 2008-08-26, Harlan Messinger <hmessinger.rem ovethis@comcast .netwrote:

Ben C wrote:

>On 2008-08-26, John Hosking <John@DELETE.Ho sking.name.INVA LIDwrote:

>>Sander Tekelenburg wrote:

>[...]

>>2. I believe "dependant" should be spelled "dependent" . See
>>http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_18...dependant.html .

>>
>No, dependant is acceptable, as probably a UK variant since it is more
>like French.

>
The OED distinguishes between the noun, "dependant, dependent" and the
adjective, "dependent" .

I don't have an OED (spent the money on a new car instead), but checked
the Collins dictionary.

It allows either spelling for the adjective, but only "dependant" for
the noun.

cf. pendant (not pendent) for something you hang around your neck. Also
a noun. Not to be confused with pedant.

>It's a bit like "advertize" which was being quibbled over the other
>day-- in UK English "advertise" is also acceptable.

>
In UK English and in US English only "advertise" is standard. OED only
shows "advertize" as an "also-found-as" in the "advertise" article, in
the same manner as "aduertyse" is given as one. Merriam-Webster
unabridged says "advertize" is a variant spelling.

The Collins dictionary also says advertize is "U.S. sometimes".

>Many of those optional variant UK spellings are basically French.
>"dependent" and "advertize" are closer to the original Latin and Greek
>respectively .

>
The "-ise" in "advertise" came from the French infix "-iss-" [is] found
in some -ir verbs (likewise, "choisir", "finir"), unlike most English
"-ize/-ise" suffixes, at least a few of which came from the French verb
ending "-iser" [ize], and have the Greek origin of which you wrote.

In that case it sounds like it should be "advertise" , even for someone
who writes "burglarize " or "bowdlerize ".

[Stan Brown]

Re: Anchor with TYPE attribute

Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:45:32 -0500 from Ben C <spamspam@spam. eggs>:

It's a bit like "advertize" which was being quibbled over the other
day-- in UK English "advertise" is also acceptable.

In US English, "advertize" is plain wrong and "advertise" is the only
acceptable spelling.

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[Stan Brown]

Re: Anchor with TYPE attribute

Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:46:44 +0100 from Steve Swift
<Steve.J.Swift@ gmail.com>:

In most cases where US and UK usage of English differs, the US version
is often (perhaps usually) closer to the original.

Correct. All or most of those -ize, -ise verbs verbs come from Greek
verbs in -izo, so the -ise spelling is further from the original. hat
doesn't mean they're wrong in the UK, of course.

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