Overlapping borders around kbd

[Hendrik Maryns]

Hi,

At this website:
http://tcl.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de/~hendrik/keyboard.shtml, just below the
section ‘Sample .xmodmap file’, you see some keys which are modeled with
<kbd>. The border looks nice in isolation, but as you can see, it
overlaps if they are just below each other. Is there a way to tell the
enclosing element to leave a little more space, such that the borders do
not overlap?

Thanks, H.
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[dorayme]

Re: Overlapping borders around kbd

In article <g5f37b$dhc$1@n ewsserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de>,
Hendrik Maryns <gtw37bn02@snea kemail.comwrote :

Hi,
>
At this website:
http://tcl.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de/~hendrik/keyboard.shtml, just below the
section ‘Sample .xmodmap file’, you see some keys which are modeled with
<kbd>. The border looks nice in isolation, but as you can see, it
overlaps if they are just below each other. Is there a way to tell the
enclosing element to leave a little more space, such that the borders do
not overlap?
>
Thanks, H.

One thig that would solve your problem is to class the list items and
apply a bottom margin of, say, .4em. Here is a nexample without a class
and an inline style:

<li style="margin-bottom: .4em;">Ellipsis comes at
<kbd>AltGr+Shif t+/</kbd>, easily reachable.

This will sort the clash of the bordered boxes.

Perhaps you know, you can simplify the css in an external or 'in the
document head' sheet by simply classing the ul and then

<ul class="kbd">

ul.kbd li {margin-bottom: .4em;}

saving having to class each list item.

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dorayme

[Hendrik Maryns]

Re: Overlapping borders around kbd

dorayme schreef:

In article <g5f37b$dhc$1@n ewsserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de>,
Hendrik Maryns <gtw37bn02@snea kemail.comwrote :
>

>Hi,
>>
>At this website:
>http://tcl.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de/~hendrik/keyboard.shtml, just below the
>section ‘Sample .xmodmap file’, you see some keys which are modeled with
><kbd>. The border looks nice in isolation, but as you can see, it
>overlaps if they are just below each other. Is there a way to tell the
>enclosing element to leave a little more space, such that the borders do
>not overlap?
>>
>Thanks, H.

>
One thig that would solve your problem is to class the list items and
apply a bottom margin of, say, .4em. Here is a nexample without a class
and an inline style:
>
<li style="margin-bottom: .4em;">Ellipsis comes at
<kbd>AltGr+Shif t+/</kbd>, easily reachable.
>
This will sort the clash of the bordered boxes.
>
Perhaps you know, you can simplify the css in an external or 'in the
document head' sheet by simply classing the ul and then
>
<ul class="kbd">
>
ul.kbd li {margin-bottom: .4em;}
>
saving having to class each list item.

Thanks, but this solution would require me to add this to all containing
elements of kbd’s. Isn’t there something I can add to

kbd {
padding: 0px 1px 0px 1px;
border-width: 1px 2px 2px 1px;
border-style: solid;
}

such that this does not occur?

H.
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[David Stone]

Re: Overlapping borders around kbd

In article <g5f9j3$mc8$1@n ewsserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de>,
Hendrik Maryns <gtw37bn02@snea kemail.comwrote :

dorayme schreef:

[snip]

Perhaps you know, you can simplify the css in an external or 'in the
document head' sheet by simply classing the ul and then

<ul class="kbd">

ul.kbd li {margin-bottom: .4em;}

saving having to class each list item.

>
Thanks, but this solution would require me to add this to all containing
elements of kbd’s. Isn’t there something I can add to
>
kbd {
padding: 0px 1px 0px 1px;
border-width: 1px 2px 2px 1px;
border-style: solid;
}
>
such that this does not occur?

Did you try margin-bottom?

[Hendrik Maryns]

Re: Overlapping borders around kbd

David Stone schreef:

In article <g5f9j3$mc8$1@n ewsserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de>,
Hendrik Maryns <gtw37bn02@snea kemail.comwrote :
>

>dorayme schreef:

[snip]

>>Perhaps you know, you can simplify the css in an external or 'in the
>>document head' sheet by simply classing the ul and then
>>>
>><ul class="kbd">
>>>
>>ul.kbd li {margin-bottom: .4em;}
>>>
>>saving having to class each list item.

>Thanks, but this solution would require me to add this to all containing
>elements of kbd’s. Isn’t there something I can add to
>>
>kbd {
> padding: 0px 1px 0px 1px;
> border-width: 1px 2px 2px 1px;
> border-style: solid;
>}
>>
>such that this does not occur?

>
Did you try margin-bottom?

Yes. It does nothing.

I can change the li around the kbd, but then all other li’s get the
margin as well, which is not as desired.

H.
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[dorayme]

Re: Overlapping borders around kbd

In article <g5f9j3$mc8$1@n ewsserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de>,
Hendrik Maryns <gtw37bn02@snea kemail.comwrote :

dorayme schreef:

In article <g5f37b$dhc$1@n ewsserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de>,
Hendrik Maryns <gtw37bn02@snea kemail.comwrote :

Hi,
>
At this website:
http://tcl.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de/~hendrik/keyboard.shtml, just below the
section ‘Sample .xmodmap file’, you see some keys which are modeled with
<kbd>. The border looks nice in isolation, but as you can see, it
overlaps if they are just below each other. Is there a way to tell the
enclosing element to leave a little more space, such that the borders do
not overlap?

One thig that would solve your problem is to class the list items and
apply a bottom margin of, say, .4em. Here is an example with
an inline style:

<li style="margin-bottom: .4em;">Ellipsis comes at
<kbd>AltGr+Shif t+/</kbd>, easily reachable.

Perhaps you know, you can simplify the css in an external or 'in the
document head' sheet by simply classing the ul and then

<ul class="kbd">

ul.kbd li {margin-bottom: .4em;}

saving having to class each list item.

>
Thanks, but this solution would require me to add this to all containing
elements of kbd’s. Isn’t there something I can add to
>
kbd {
padding: 0px 1px 0px 1px;
border-width: 1px 2px 2px 1px;
border-style: solid;
}
>
such that this does not occur?
>

Suppose there was something that would pick out all and only those list
items and sentences in paragraphs that contained those kbd boxes. What
would it do to them? It would space them more generously top or bottom
or both. Now, in my opinion, that would look so odd if only those were
spaced.

You mention later in thread that you would not be happy to have all the
list items margined the same to cope with the ones that did have the kbd
boxes. So maybe you will not agree with my intuitions. Here is another
general solution which you may not be be keen on but the only one I can
think of for now that does not have bad side effects:

Consider a bigger line-height for all the elements that contain those
boxes.

ul, p {line-height: 1.4;}

And do this for all paragraphs to give a consistent look.

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dorayme