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  • =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Carlos_Santos?=

    Image which does not appear

    Hi all,

    If I open the web page



    with either Firefox or Internet Explorer, I see two pictures near the
    top left corner. Then, if I press the «Page Down» button, there's a
    missing picture; all I see is an alternate text (which says "[image]
    tank driving"). But if I right-click on it and declare that I want to
    see the picture, the picture shows up! The HTML code here is:

    <img style="WIDTH: 249px; HEIGHT: 154px" alt="[image] tank driving"
    src="http://www.tankmuseum. co.uk/corporate/images/tank-large.jpg"
    align="left" />

    It looks good to me. What is the source of the problem?

    Best regards,

    Jose Carlos Santos
  • Jim Moe

    #2
    Re: Image which does not appear

    José Carlos Santos wrote:
    >
    If I open the web page
    >

    >
    with either Firefox or Internet Explorer, I see two pictures near the
    top left corner. Then, if I press the «Page Down» button, there's a
    missing picture; all I see is an alternate text (which says "[image]
    tank driving"). But if I right-click on it and declare that I want to
    see the picture, the picture shows up! The HTML code here is:
    >
    <img style="WIDTH: 249px; HEIGHT: 154px" alt="[image] tank driving"
    src="http://www.tankmuseum. co.uk/corporate/images/tank-large.jpg"
    align="left" />
    >
    Do you have "Block external images" enabled?

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    • =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Carlos_Santos?=

      #3
      Re: Image which does not appear

      On 19-12-2006 18:50, Jim Moe wrote:
      >If I open the web page
      >>
      >http://abrupto.blogspot.com/2006_12_...54586752664431
      >>
      >with either Firefox or Internet Explorer, I see two pictures near the
      >top left corner. Then, if I press the «Page Down» button, there's a
      >missing picture; all I see is an alternate text (which says "[image]
      >tank driving"). But if I right-click on it and declare that I want to
      >see the picture, the picture shows up! The HTML code here is:
      >>
      ><img style="WIDTH: 249px; HEIGHT: 154px" alt="[image] tank driving"
      >src="http://www.tankmuseum. co.uk/corporate/images/tank-large.jpg"
      >align="left" />
      >>
      Do you have "Block external images" enabled?
      No. Besides, that page is full of pictures and I only have problems
      with that one.

      Best regards,

      Jose Carlos Santos

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      • Beauregard T. Shagnasty

        #4
        Re: Image which does not appear

        José Carlos Santos wrote:
        If I open the web page
        >

        >
        with either Firefox or Internet Explorer, I see two pictures near the
        The author of this page needs to .. (how can I be polite?) .. start
        over? Stop hotlinking to others' photo files? Learn to optimize images?
        Use multiple pages for extreme amounts of content?

        This one stolen photo is nearly two megabytes!


        The tank photo:

        is also hotlinked, and perhaps that server wasn't available when you
        visited the page. I see it in all browsers.

        See: http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/
        for just how large this page really is:

        "The size of this web page (2141176 bytes) has exceeded the maximum size
        of 1000000 bytes. Please try again."

        --
        -bts
        -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

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        • =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Carlos_Santos?=

          #5
          Re: Image which does not appear

          Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
          >If I open the web page
          >>
          >http://abrupto.blogspot.com/2006_12_...54586752664431
          >>
          >with either Firefox or Internet Explorer, I see two pictures near the
          >
          The author of this page needs to .. (how can I be polite?) .. start
          over? Stop hotlinking to others' photo files? Learn to optimize images?
          Use multiple pages for extreme amounts of content?
          >
          This one stolen photo is nearly two megabytes!

          >
          The tank photo:

          is also hotlinked, and perhaps that server wasn't available when you
          visited the page. I see it in all browsers.
          >
          See: http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/
          for just how large this page really is:
          >
          "The size of this web page (2141176 bytes) has exceeded the maximum size
          of 1000000 bytes. Please try again."
          All this makes sense, except that I *still* can't see the image, even
          though I am accessing the Internet using a different ISP now. Thanks,
          anyway.

          Best regards,

          Jose Carlos Santos

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          • Beauregard T. Shagnasty

            #6
            Re: Image which does not appear

            José Carlos Santos wrote:
            All this makes sense, except that I *still* can't see the image, even
            though I am accessing the Internet using a different ISP now. Thanks,
            anyway.
            Can you see it directly?


            How about their main page (a splash page)?
            The Tank Museum, Bovington, UK - the world's finest collection of tanks and Dorset's best family day out! Home of TANKFEST and Tiger 131.


            --
            -bts
            -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

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            • John Hosking

              #7
              Re: Image which does not appear

              Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
              José Carlos Santos wrote:
              >>
              The author of this page needs to .. (how can I be polite?) .. start
              over? Stop hotlinking to others' photo files?
              >
              The tank photo:

              is also hotlinked, and perhaps that server wasn't available when you
              visited the page. I see it in all browsers.
              >
              Do you see it on the page he mentioned, or only directly using the
              jpeg's URL? I see it directly, but not in the referenced page.

              Isn't this probably a case of the tankmuseum's webmaster setting a block
              against hotlinking based on the referrer (abrupto.blogsp ot.com, or maybe
              all of blogspot)? Being clever with the .htaccess file would be a fair
              way for the real image owner to prevent the hotlink theft of image and
              bandwidth. Innit?

              --
              John

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              • Beauregard T. Shagnasty

                #8
                Re: Image which does not appear

                John Hosking wrote:
                Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
                >José Carlos Santos wrote:
                >>>>
                >The author of this page needs to .. (how can I be polite?) .. start
                >over? Stop hotlinking to others' photo files?
                >
                >The tank photo: http://www.tankmuseum.co.uk/corporat...tank-large.jpg
                >is also hotlinked, and perhaps that server wasn't available when you
                >visited the page. I see it in all browsers.
                >>
                Do you see it on the page he mentioned, or only directly using the
                jpeg's URL? I see it directly, but not in the referenced page.
                Yes, I saw it directly on the blogspot page. Still do, in a couple of
                browsers.
                Isn't this probably a case of the tankmuseum's webmaster setting a
                block against hotlinking based on the referrer (abrupto.blogsp ot.com,
                or maybe all of blogspot)? Being clever with the .htaccess file would
                be a fair way for the real image owner to prevent the hotlink theft
                of image and bandwidth. Innit?
                That's what I would do if I was the tank guy. I have a .htaccess on one
                of my sites set to reject hotlinks.

                --
                -bts
                -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

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                • =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Carlos_Santos?=

                  #9
                  Re: Image which does not appear

                  On 19-12-2006 23:53, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
                  >All this makes sense, except that I *still* can't see the image, even
                  >though I am accessing the Internet using a different ISP now. Thanks,
                  >anyway.
                  >
                  Can you see it directly?
                  http://www.tankmuseum.co.uk/corporat...tank-large.jpg
                  Yes, just like I said that at my original post.

                  Best regards,

                  Jose Carlos Santos

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                  • Jim Moe

                    #10
                    Re: [OT] Image which does not appear

                    Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
                    >
                    >Isn't this probably a case of the tankmuseum's webmaster setting a
                    >block against hotlinking based on the referrer (abrupto.blogsp ot.com,
                    >or maybe all of blogspot)? Being clever with the .htaccess file would
                    >be a fair way for the real image owner to prevent the hotlink theft
                    >of image and bandwidth. Innit?
                    >
                    That's what I would do if I was the tank guy. I have a .htaccess on one
                    of my sites set to reject hotlinks.
                    >
                    Would you provide a sample entry?

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                    • Beauregard T. Shagnasty

                      #11
                      Re: [OT] Image which does not appear

                      Jim Moe wrote:
                      Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
                      >>
                      >>Isn't this probably a case of the tankmuseum's webmaster setting a
                      >>block against hotlinking based on the referrer (abrupto.blogsp ot.com,
                      >>or maybe all of blogspot)? Being clever with the .htaccess file would
                      >>be a fair way for the real image owner to prevent the hotlink theft
                      >>of image and bandwidth. Innit?
                      >>
                      >That's what I would do if I was the tank guy. I have a .htaccess on one
                      >of my sites set to reject hotlinks.
                      >
                      Would you provide a sample entry?
                      Ok. Note this depends on the visitor's browser or firewall not blocking
                      the HTTP_REFERER. The following redirects them to my "evil.png" which is
                      a very lightweight image in bright red with white text which states
                      "This image was stolen from example.com"


                      # Prevent hotlinking
                      # returns a substitute image (evil.png) instead of the image requested
                      RewriteEngine On
                      RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(www\.)?example\.com/ [NC]
                      RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
                      RewriteRule \.(.jpg|jpeg|gi f|bmp|png)$ /images/evil.png [R,L]

                      --
                      -bts
                      -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck

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                      • Jim Moe

                        #12
                        Re: [OT] Image which does not appear

                        Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
                        >>
                        > Would you provide a sample entry?
                        >
                        Ok. Note this depends on the visitor's browser or firewall not blocking
                        the HTTP_REFERER. The following redirects them to my "evil.png" which is
                        a very lightweight image in bright red with white text which states
                        "This image was stolen from example.com"
                        >
                        >
                        # Prevent hotlinking
                        # returns a substitute image (evil.png) instead of the image requested
                        RewriteEngine On
                        RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://(www\.)?example\.com/ [NC]
                        RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
                        RewriteRule \.(.jpg|jpeg|gi f|bmp|png)$ /images/evil.png [R,L]
                        >
                        Thanks!

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