I want to know the standards document of the c++ language .Where can
i get??
How different is c++ from vc++?
i get??
How different is c++ from vc++?
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Re: I want to know the standards document of the c++ language
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 03:07:25 -0700, Sreenivas wrote:
The current standard (1998) is known as "ISO/IEC 14882:1998". The most recentI want to know the standards document of the c++ language
revision was in 2003 and is known as "ISO/IEC 14882:2003". It is produced by
the The C++ Standards Committee:
It is not free (nor cheap). You can buy it here:Where can i get??
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue...csnumber=38110
C++ is a programming language. Visual C++ is a Microsoft software productHow different is c++ from vc++?
including a C++ compiler, development environment and a bunch of libraries.
It is intended for developing C++ programs for MS Windows.
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Re: I want to know the standards document of the c++ language
Lionel B wrote:A nit-pick: the *current* standard *is* the 2003 version, i.e. the mostOn Thu, 25 Sep 2008 03:07:25 -0700, Sreenivas wrote:
>>>I want to know the standards document of the c++ language
The current standard (1998)
recent revision. The document dated 1998 has been *obsoleted*.
"Cheap" is a relative term. $30 or so for a PDF document once everyis known as "ISO/IEC 14882:1998". The most recent
revision was in 2003 and is known as "ISO/IEC 14882:2003". It is produced by
the The C++ Standards Committee:
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>>>Where can i get??
It is not free (nor cheap).
five years is not really *that* expensive...
Actually, I find ANSI web store more accommodating in terms of prices.
I don't think they'd refuse to sell a copy to you. Try
http://webstore.ansi.org/RecordDetai...IEC+14882-2003
There should also be a mention that the compiler included in VC++>>>How different is c++ from vc++?
C++ is a programming language. Visual C++ is a Microsoft software product
including a C++ compiler, development environment and a bunch of libraries.
It is intended for developing C++ programs for MS Windows.
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package provides numerous extensions to the language. You don't have to
use them, but if you do, the language is not C++ any more. There is
also a new language they call "Managed C++" or "C++.NET", which has some
similarities with C++. Questions about Visual C++ should be posted in
the VC++ newsgroup: 'microsoft.publ ic.vc.language' .
V
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Re: I want to know the standards document of the c++ language
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:12:07 -0400, Victor Bazarov wrote:
[...]Lionel B wrote:>On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 03:07:25 -0700, Sreenivas wrote:
Wow. So how does the ISO store get off on selling it (the PDF) for>>The most recent
>revision was in 2003 and is known as "ISO/IEC 14882:2003". It is
>produced by the The C++ Standards Committee:
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>http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/
>>>>>>Where can i get??
>It is not free (nor cheap).
"Cheap" is a relative term. $30 or so for a PDF document once every
five years is not really *that* expensive...
CHF 370, which works out as about $340 ?!
You're not kidding!>
Actually, I find ANSI web store more accommodating in terms of prices.
No sir, my money's as good as anyone's.I don't think they'd refuse to sell a copy to you.
I suspect that goes for many (most?) compilers - certainly does for g++.Try
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http://webstore.ansi.org/RecordDetai...IEC+14882-2003
>There should also be a mention that the compiler included in VC++>>>>How different is c++ from vc++?
>C++ is a programming language. Visual C++ is a Microsoft software
>product including a C++ compiler, development environment and a bunch
>of libraries. It is intended for developing C++ programs for MS
>Windows.
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package provides numerous extensions to the language. You don't have to
use them, but if you do, the language is not C++ any more.
A major gripe is that such compilers also seem to *default* to non-standards-
comliance and that it's generally a major pain to work out how to run them
in fully standards-compliant mode.
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Re: I want to know the standards document of the c++ language
Lionel B wrote:Not too often, I'm afraid, but when they do, they have a party :-)[..] So how does the ISO store get off on selling it (the PDF) for
CHF 370, which works out as about $340 ?!
V[..]
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Re: I want to know the standards document of the c++ language
On Sep 25, 8:01 am, Lionel B <m...@privacy.n etwrote:
Wow. So how does the ISO store get off on selling it (the PDF) for
CHF 370, which works out as about $340 ?!
>>>You can buy it here:>Actually, I find ANSI web store more accommodating in terms of prices.
You're not kidding!
>>I don't think they'd refuse to sell a copy to you.
No sir, my money's as good as anyone's.
>>>Try
You can buy a dead tree version for about $75 from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Standard-Incor.../dp/0470846747
[inflation... it was $65 when I bough it]
or $68 [member price] from B&N
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...EAN=0470846747
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Re: I want to know the standards document of the c++ language
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:45:23 -0700, red floyd wrote:
catalogue_detai l_i...On Sep 25, 8:01Â am, Lionel B <m...@privacy.n etwrote:
>>Wow. So how does the ISO store get off on selling it (the PDF) for CHF
>370, which works out as about $340 ?!
>>>>>You can buy it here:+148...>>>>Actually, I find ANSI web store more accommodating in terms of
prices.
>You're not kidding!
>>>>I don't think they'd refuse to sell a copy to you.
>No sir, my money's as good as anyone's.
>>>>Â Trydp/0470846747>>>
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You can buy a dead tree version for about $75 from Amazon.
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http://www.amazon.com/Standard-Incor...rigendum-No-1/Or just $42 from http://www.bokus.com/b/0470846747.html.>
[inflation... it was $65 when I bough it]
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or $68 [member price] from B&N
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http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...bninquiry.asp?
EAN=0470846747
Any lower bids? :)
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Re: I want to know the standards document of the c++ language
Obnoxious User wrote:A stacks of blank paper (500 sheets) would cost about $5 in any officeOn Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:45:23 -0700, red floyd wrote:
[..]dp/0470846747>You can buy a dead tree version for about $75 from Amazon.
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>http://www.amazon.com/Standard-Incor...rigendum-No-1/>>[inflation... it was $65 when I bough it]
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>or $68 [member price] from B&N
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>http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...bninquiry.asp?
>EAN=04708467 47
Or just $42 from http://www.bokus.com/b/0470846747.html.
>
Any lower bids? :)
supply store, and it's more useful than a dead tree version of the
Standard, AFAIC. With the electronic version you at least can search
for text, copy-paste from it, and it doesn't take any room on your shelf
or desk.
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Re: I want to know the standards document of the c++ language
On Sep 25, 7:23 pm, Victor Bazarov <v.Abaza...@com Acast.netwrote:
[...]On the other hand, you can't highlight it, or make marginalA stacks of blank paper (500 sheets) would cost about $5 in
any office supply store, and it's more useful than a dead tree
version of the Standard, AFAIC. With the electronic version
you at least can search for text, copy-paste from it, and it
doesn't take any room on your shelf or desk.
notes or stick post-it notes in it. Both versions have their
uses.
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Re: I want to know the standards document of the c++ language
On 2008-09-25 16:23:35 -0400, James Kanze <james.kanze@gm ail.comsaid:
Worst of all, you can't put it on your stomach as a sleep aid.On Sep 25, 7:23 pm, Victor Bazarov <v.Abaza...@com Acast.netwrote:
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[...]>>A stacks of blank paper (500 sheets) would cost about $5 in
>any office supply store, and it's more useful than a dead tree
>version of the Standard, AFAIC. With the electronic version
>you at least can search for text, copy-paste from it, and it
>doesn't take any room on your shelf or desk.
On the other hand, you can't highlight it, or make marginal
notes or stick post-it notes in it. Both versions have their
uses.
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Standard C++ Library Extensions: a Tutorial and Reference
(www.petebecker.com/tr1book)
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Re: I want to know the standards document of the c++ language
James Kanze wrote:(To invoke VC from within the VS IDE, you need to setup a[...]
It's more or less a problem with every compiler I know. On the
other hand, I think if you use the IDE, it's easy to
accidentally invoke the compiler as a C++CLI compiler, rather
than a C++ compiler with a few extensions or irregularities;
C++CLI is really a different language. (Of course, I can't say
for sure, as I've never tried to invoke the compiler from the
IDE. Invoked from the command line, it's no worse, and no
better, than any of the others.)
project first, and when doing so, you have to decide whether
to create a real C++ or a C++.NET project.)
Schobi
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Re: I want to know the standards document of the c++ language
James Kanze wrote:Or read it in the bath...On Sep 25, 7:23 pm, Victor Bazarov <v.Abaza...@com Acast.netwrote:
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[...]>>A stacks of blank paper (500 sheets) would cost about $5 in
>any office supply store, and it's more useful than a dead tree
>version of the Standard, AFAIC. With the electronic version
>you at least can search for text, copy-paste from it, and it
>doesn't take any room on your shelf or desk.
On the other hand, you can't highlight it, or make marginal
notes or stick post-it notes in it.
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Re: I want to know the standards document of the c++ language
James Kanze wrote:Mmm... I don't know about your first statement. Convert your PDF into aOn Sep 25, 7:23 pm, Victor Bazarov <v.Abaza...@com Acast.netwrote:
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[...]>>A stacks of blank paper (500 sheets) would cost about $5 in
>any office supply store, and it's more useful than a dead tree
>version of the Standard, AFAIC. With the electronic version
>you at least can search for text, copy-paste from it, and it
>doesn't take any room on your shelf or desk.
On the other hand, you can't highlight it, or make marginal
notes or stick post-it notes in it. Both versions have their
uses.
DOCX file, and in MS Word you can do all those things...
Electronically, of course. I am surprised that Adobe hasn't introduced
all those features yet. Or maybe they have, but not in the free version
of their reader...
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Re: I want to know the standards document of the c++ language
Victor Bazarov wrote:You can do them with Preview, the reader that comes with OS X.James Kanze wrote:>>On Sep 25, 7:23 pm, Victor Bazarov <v.Abaza...@com Acast.netwrote:
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> [...]>>>>A stacks of blank paper (500 sheets) would cost about $5 in
>>any office supply store, and it's more useful than a dead tree
>>version of the Standard, AFAIC. With the electronic version
>>you at least can search for text, copy-paste from it, and it
>>doesn't take any room on your shelf or desk.
>On the other hand, you can't highlight it, or make marginal
>notes or stick post-it notes in it. Both versions have their
>uses.
Mmm... I don't know about your first statement. Convert your PDF into a
DOCX file, and in MS Word you can do all those things... Electronically,
of course. I am surprised that Adobe hasn't introduced all those
features yet. Or maybe they have, but not in the free version of their
reader...
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Re: I want to know the standards document of the c++ language
On 2008-09-26 15:05, Victor Bazarov wrote:It's in Adobe Reader, and has for some time (don't know when it wasJames Kanze wrote:>>On Sep 25, 7:23 pm, Victor Bazarov <v.Abaza...@com Acast.netwrote:
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> [...]>>>>A stacks of blank paper (500 sheets) would cost about $5 in
>>any office supply store, and it's more useful than a dead tree
>>version of the Standard, AFAIC. With the electronic version
>>you at least can search for text, copy-paste from it, and it
>>doesn't take any room on your shelf or desk.
>On the other hand, you can't highlight it, or make marginal
>notes or stick post-it notes in it. Both versions have their
>uses.
Mmm... I don't know about your first statement. Convert your PDF into a
DOCX file, and in MS Word you can do all those things...
Electronically, of course. I am surprised that Adobe hasn't introduced
all those features yet. Or maybe they have, but not in the free version
of their reader...
introduced) but for some strange reason most documents does not allow it.
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